“Hot Colleges” (2018 admissions cycle)?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Any theories on what is driving increasing popularity of women's colleges?

More women are comfortable about "coming out" earlier in their lives

Troll alert.

which one, the pp who asked the question? Or the one who answered?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:SLACs outside of the NE continue to gain in popularity (Rhodes, Sewanee, Kenyon, Denison, Macalester, Occidental).

They give merit aid. Lot of parents in the donuthole, which makes them affluent (high achieving kids) in urban areas. Out of pocket, likely 80k by the time my kid graduates, times two kids. When WM is an excellent in state option. Just not going to happen. Oberlin or Grinnell with about 20k to bridge the gap? Very interested. Probably more interested in Bates, Bowden, Reed or Amherst. But with no merit aid, we aren’t even considering them. We can’t be the only parents making this calculation.

I know of two NVa kids admitted to Sewanee and Rhodes this year with merit aid that put the net cost about 15% lower than W&M in-state. (Have you looked at W&M's total cost of attendance for next year? It was an eye opener for me.) So, don't assume a LAC is out of the question from a cost standpoint.

2018-2019 W&M COA
[b]In-State: $39,225
OOS: $61,370

Yowza![/b]

Holy, Moley, when did that happen? I have a student at UVA. We're paying only $23K (everything included).

[Anonymous]

I begged my kid to go to GT but UIUC won out because it was huge and the program in her major was one of the largest in the US. It’s certainly working out well for her, so I guess it must have been the right choice.

[Anonymous]

That OOS tuition has to be cheaper at UIUC though than GT. Does your kid like Champaign-Urbana? Any impact to her major due to state funding shortfall?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:SLACs outside of the NE continue to gain in popularity (Rhodes, Sewanee, Kenyon, Denison, Macalester, Occidental).

They give merit aid. Lot of parents in the donuthole, which makes them affluent (high achieving kids) in urban areas. Out of pocket, likely 80k by the time my kid graduates, times two kids. When WM is an excellent in state option. Just not going to happen. Oberlin or Grinnell with about 20k to bridge the gap? Very interested. Probably more interested in Bates, Bowden, Reed or Amherst. But with no merit aid, we aren’t even considering them. We can’t be the only parents making this calculation.

I know of two NVa kids admitted to Sewanee and Rhodes this year with merit aid that put the net cost about 15% lower than W&M in-state. (Have you looked at W&M's total cost of attendance for next year? It was an eye opener for me.) So, don't assume a LAC is out of the question from a cost standpoint.

2018-2019 W&M COA
[b]In-State: $39,225
OOS: $61,370

Yowza![/b]

Holy, Moley, when did that happen? I have a student at UVA. We're paying only $23K (everything included).

$23K? Does your student have a scholarship? None of these figures are near $23K, they are higher:

https://sfs.virginia.edu/cost/18-19

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:SLACs outside of the NE continue to gain in popularity (Rhodes, Sewanee, Kenyon, Denison, Macalester, Occidental).

They give merit aid. Lot of parents in the donuthole, which makes them affluent (high achieving kids) in urban areas. Out of pocket, likely 80k by the time my kid graduates, times two kids. When WM is an excellent in state option. Just not going to happen. Oberlin or Grinnell with about 20k to bridge the gap? Very interested. Probably more interested in Bates, Bowden, Reed or Amherst. But with no merit aid, we aren’t even considering them. We can’t be the only parents making this calculation.

+1

That's us. DC is having an excellent experience at Denison. Although DC had the stats/chops, we didn't look at the likes of Bates, Bowdoin, Amherst, etc., because we can't pay $70K+ and rising.

There are a lot of parents making the same calculation.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:SLACs outside of the NE continue to gain in popularity (Rhodes, Sewanee, Kenyon, Denison, Macalester, Occidental).

They give merit aid. Lot of parents in the donuthole, which makes them affluent (high achieving kids) in urban areas. Out of pocket, likely 80k by the time my kid graduates, times two kids. When WM is an excellent in state option. Just not going to happen. Oberlin or Grinnell with about 20k to bridge the gap? Very interested. Probably more interested in Bates, Bowden, Reed or Amherst. But with no merit aid, we aren’t even considering them. We can’t be the only parents making this calculation.

I know of two NVa kids admitted to Sewanee and Rhodes this year with merit aid that put the net cost about 15% lower than W&M in-state. (Have you looked at W&M's total cost of attendance for next year? It was an eye opener for me.) So, don't assume a LAC is out of the question from a cost standpoint.

NEASCA colleges, by definition, do not give merit aid. Period. If you are in the donut hole for Williams, have a 1600 SAT, are an olympic athlete, are a Siemens finalist, cure cancer and graduate #1 in you class at TJ (where my kid actually is doing well) you still will not get a cent of merit aid from Williams, Amherst, Bowdoin, Bates, Colgate, etc. Reed has the same policy. As do Ivy’s. So even though my kid is topping out TJ with significant extracurriculars and SATs above 99%, he cannot even consider these schools. HHI $275. But, we live in the DMV (high COL) and are putting 2 kids through college over 6 years.

We have been saving more than $1500 per kid per month for several years. But we got killed in the recession with both parents losing jobs at various points and our house losing 100k in value. So we did not have steady saving during the recession.

I think you mean NESCAC.

Trinity College, which is a NESCAC school, gives a few full-tuition scholarships each year. Outside of that, however, you are correct about NESCAC schools not giving any merit aid to anyone.

Carry on.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:PP are we will have WM tuition in state saved for each kid, plus two years of room and board per kid. pay the other two years per kid out of income. No loans and we can pay some above WM. But not $300k all in times 2 kids.

I hate that it is all need based, but does not consider that we live in NOVA, not SC, and because we were using saving for several years during the recession. Not adding to college funds. Good income now. But not 6-7 years ago. But colleges don’t consider these things in awarding aid

Same situation here, with a high-achieving TJ kid.

What schools are you looking at, if any, other than VA in-state options?

[Anonymous]

UIUC poster here: OOS costs are at a point where looking to shave a few dollars here or there is futile. University had a large endowment and state’s portion was negligible. Largest impact was from bad publicity. Scared off both potential students and faculty. They are building rampantly so no sign of financial distress on that front. The opportunities for my DD have been beyond belief. Interning at NASA right now.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:SLACs outside of the NE continue to gain in popularity (Rhodes, Sewanee, Kenyon, Denison, Macalester, Occidental).

They give merit aid. Lot of parents in the donuthole, which makes them affluent (high achieving kids) in urban areas. Out of pocket, likely 80k by the time my kid graduates, times two kids. When WM is an excellent in state option. Just not going to happen. Oberlin or Grinnell with about 20k to bridge the gap? Very interested. Probably more interested in Bates, Bowden, Reed or Amherst. But with no merit aid, we aren’t even considering them. We can’t be the only parents making this calculation.

I know of two NVa kids admitted to Sewanee and Rhodes this year with merit aid that put the net cost about 15% lower than W&M in-state. (Have you looked at W&M's total cost of attendance for next year? It was an eye opener for me.) So, don't assume a LAC is out of the question from a cost standpoint.

2018-2019 W&M COA
[b]In-State: $39,225
OOS: $61,370

Yowza![/b]

Holy, Moley, when did that happen? I have a student at UVA. We're paying only $23K (everything included).

$23K? Does your student have a scholarship? None of these figures are near $23K, they are higher:

https://sfs.virginia.edu/cost/18-19

It's based on year that you entered. DC is a fourth year student

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:SLACs outside of the NE continue to gain in popularity (Rhodes, Sewanee, Kenyon, Denison, Macalester, Occidental).

They give merit aid. Lot of parents in the donuthole, which makes them affluent (high achieving kids) in urban areas. Out of pocket, likely 80k by the time my kid graduates, times two kids. When WM is an excellent in state option. Just not going to happen. Oberlin or Grinnell with about 20k to bridge the gap? Very interested. Probably more interested in Bates, Bowden, Reed or Amherst. But with no merit aid, we aren’t even considering them. We can’t be the only parents making this calculation.

I know of two NVa kids admitted to Sewanee and Rhodes this year with merit aid that put the net cost about 15% lower than W&M in-state. (Have you looked at W&M's total cost of attendance for next year? It was an eye opener for me.) So, don't assume a LAC is out of the question from a cost standpoint.

2018-2019 W&M COA
[b]In-State: $39,225
OOS: $61,370

Yowza![/b]

Holy, Moley, when did that happen? I have a student at UVA. We're paying only $23K (everything included).

$23K? Does your student have a scholarship? None of these figures are near $23K, they are higher:

https://sfs.virginia.edu/cost/18-19

DC entered at $26K and we don't pay the $3000 health fee because DC is on our policy = $23,000.

[Anonymous]

^^ And next year DC will live off campus. I just checked tuition only for DC. It is $16,000.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:SLACs outside of the NE continue to gain in popularity (Rhodes, Sewanee, Kenyon, Denison, Macalester, Occidental).

They give merit aid. Lot of parents in the donuthole, which makes them affluent (high achieving kids) in urban areas. Out of pocket, likely 80k by the time my kid graduates, times two kids. When WM is an excellent in state option. Just not going to happen. Oberlin or Grinnell with about 20k to bridge the gap? Very interested. Probably more interested in Bates, Bowden, Reed or Amherst. But with no merit aid, we aren’t even considering them. We can’t be the only parents making this calculation.

I know of two NVa kids admitted to Sewanee and Rhodes this year with merit aid that put the net cost about 15% lower than W&M in-state. (Have you looked at W&M's total cost of attendance for next year? It was an eye opener for me.) So, don't assume a LAC is out of the question from a cost standpoint.

2018-2019 W&M COA
[b]In-State: $39,225
OOS: $61,370

Yowza![/b]

Holy, Moley, when did that happen? I have a student at UVA. We're paying only $23K (everything included).

$23K? Does your student have a scholarship? None of these figures are near $23K, they are higher:

https://sfs.virginia.edu/cost/18-19

It's based on year that you entered. DC is a fourth year student

Wait, your tuition is locked in at whatever you pay in year one?

[Anonymous]

The University of Virginia offers an optional Guaranteed Tuition Plan for Virginians. Full-time Virginia students entering college for the first time can fix their base tuition rate now, providing stability in planning for their tuition costs during their four-year undergraduate career at UVA. Complete the Guaranteed Tuition Plan Agreement and submit the completed form to Student Financial Services. Enrollment in the Plan for the 2018-2019 academic year runs through August 1, 2018.

[Anonymous]

UMD is $23K in state- an excellent value