Vaping in class?

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I don’t understand why parents think that they would be informed about every instance of vaping, or that their kids would without question know about it when it does happen. The point of the very small devices that look like something else is that they are very hard to detect. Your kid may be in a small class, but that doesn’t mean that classmates can’t get away with it undetected. A teacher has to teach, and students have work to focus on. It’s unlikely that they spend the entirety of class looking around the room like something out of a whodunnit.

So really, if some kids are getting away with this undetected, why wring your hands over it? It’s not like they’re doing angel dust and at risk of going on a pencil stabbing spree.


It is a distraction and if it is true that you say kids are doing it, it creates a negative environment. So much wrong with doing this at school and not what we are paying $40K plus for. I am not blaming the schools if they are not aware but I am not going to just say it is okay to inhale illegal substances at school during the day. Sorry not just shrugging it off as being normal.


No one has said that it’s ok. Multiple posters have pointed out that it is virtually undetectable if a kid knows how to make it so. If you are very concerned about the possibility that this could be happening in your kids’ classes, then do something about it. And then let the rest of us know how you fixed it.
Anonymous
1. Vaping is huge with kids at every school.
2. Vaping happens every day at every school.
3. Vaping commonly includes pot.
4. Your kid is exposed to vaping.
5. This does not mean your kid is vaping.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Used often in the bathroom at DC's Big 3. So depressing...


What is the purpose of it? I don’t get it.


I understand no one wants to be a tattletale but why don’t kids tell if they know these kids are doing it?


A sound sense of personal privacy.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Used often in the bathroom at DC's Big 3. So depressing...


What is the purpose of it? I don’t get it.


I understand no one wants to be a tattletale but why don’t kids tell if they know these kids are doing it?


A sound sense of personal privacy.


I don’t understand what this means. One would argue if you’re inhaling illegal substances in public view (it is illegal if you’re under 18 and especially if you’re inhaling other illegal substances like weed) then you have given up any rights you have to privacy. If you want privacy do it in your own home.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Used often in the bathroom at DC's Big 3. So depressing...


What is the purpose of it? I don’t get it.


I understand no one wants to be a tattletale but why don’t kids tell if they know these kids are doing it?


A sound sense of personal privacy.


I don’t understand what this means. One would argue if you’re inhaling illegal substances in public view (it is illegal if you’re under 18 and especially if you’re inhaling other illegal substances like weed) then you have given up any rights you have to privacy. If you want privacy do it in your own home.


Privacy at home rather than in the middle of school...
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There's a whole group doing it at my child's very expensive private school, in the MS. I've been talking to them about staying away from the kids involved with it. This is bigger than I realized. The head is aware as i spoke with them about it recently. I'm worried about high school being worse.


What school is this? My son is in middle school at a big 3 and this concerns me. Also what concerns me is parents throwing drinking parties at big threes in ninth grade! These kids are 14 years old! Who does that and how is this acceptable?


Totally. Parents condoning and encouraging partying is a lot worse than kids going out and sneaking around doing it on their own. My parents would’ve never thrown a drinking party for me. Does this bother any other parents or does everyone just think this is OK for 14 year olds?


Assuming this is true, these parents are exposing themselves to a lot of criminal and legal liabilty.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Used often in the bathroom at DC's Big 3. So depressing...


What is the purpose of it? I don’t get it.


I understand no one wants to be a tattletale but why don’t kids tell if they know these kids are doing it?


A sound sense of personal privacy.


I don’t understand what this means. One would argue if you’re inhaling illegal substances in public view (it is illegal if you’re under 18 and especially if you’re inhaling other illegal substances like weed) then you have given up any rights you have to privacy. If you want privacy do it in your own home.


What is the harm to others from vaping? I'm not condoning it and I wouldn't want my child doing it. But it's not my business to tell someone else not to do it, let alone "narc" on them.

BTW, saying you're engaged in illegal conduct means you forfeit rights to privacy is a totally backwards argument. That's the type of reasoning that has lead to the perpetuation of laws against sodomy/homosexuality/abortion too.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Used often in the bathroom at DC's Big 3. So depressing...


What is the purpose of it? I don’t get it.


I understand no one wants to be a tattletale but why don’t kids tell if they know these kids are doing it?


A sound sense of personal privacy.


I don’t understand what this means. One would argue if you’re inhaling illegal substances in public view (it is illegal if you’re under 18 and especially if you’re inhaling other illegal substances like weed) then you have given up any rights you have to privacy. If you want privacy do it in your own home.


What is the harm to others from vaping? I'm not condoning it and I wouldn't want my child doing it. But it's not my business to tell someone else not to do it, let alone "narc" on them.

BTW, saying you're engaged in illegal conduct means you forfeit rights to privacy is a totally backwards argument. That's the type of reasoning that has lead to the perpetuation of laws against sodomy/homosexuality/abortion too.


If they want privacy they shouldn’t do it in a public place or in the middle of school. Sorry but your argument has no validity.
Anonymous
Vaping or vaping devices are not illegal. It is not intended for the consumption and sale to minors. There may be a fine or penalty levied against the merchant for sale to minors but no legal consequences to minors who purchase the devices.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Vaping or vaping devices are not illegal. It is not intended for the consumption and sale to minors. There may be a fine or penalty levied against the merchant for sale to minors but no legal consequences to minors who purchase the devices.


It is illegal under 18. Are you promoting vaping? What’s your point? Besides just as alcohol and cigarettes are not permitted in school, neither is vaping, as it contains nicotine. Cheating on a paper isn’t against the law either but it is not allowed.
Anonymous
The problem with vaping is that its often the first thing a kid does that crosses "the line" into dangerous, prohibited, risky, party-type behavior. Once that line is crossed many kids find it easier to have their first drink, first hook-up, first high. I say from experience that vaping, like smoking, leads a kid toward the party crowd. I for one don't want my kids hanging with the party crowd in high school, much less middle school.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:The problem with vaping is that its often the first thing a kid does that crosses "the line" into dangerous, prohibited, risky, party-type behavior. Once that line is crossed many kids find it easier to have their first drink, first hook-up, first high. I say from experience that vaping, like smoking, leads a kid toward the party crowd. I for one don't want my kids hanging with the party crowd in high school, much less middle school.



Exactly. I think the poster that said seventh and eighth grade boys were doing it at a few of the private schools is very disturbing news if it’s true. I also don’t want my son hanging with the party crowd - particularly in seventh grade. Thankfully we ditched the crowd I would expect to be involved so I don’t think it’s too much of an issue for us but it still doesn’t mean I want it as an influence in the grade. Private school grades are pretty small.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Vaping or vaping devices are not illegal. It is not intended for the consumption and sale to minors. There may be a fine or penalty levied against the merchant for sale to minors but no legal consequences to minors who purchase the devices.


It is illegal under 18. Are you promoting vaping? What’s your point? Besides just as alcohol and cigarettes are not permitted in school, neither is vaping, as it contains nicotine. Cheating on a paper isn’t against the law either but it is not allowed.


I’m not promoting anything. Do you know anyone under 18 arrested for vaping? Please cite the ordinance. I’m simply stating the facts, Matlock.
Anonymous

Some Landon parent is cleaning up the posts. There is lot of vaping in Landon. They are using a paid service to monitor this.
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