N word at Whitman

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Anonymous wrote:Come on, don't people remember words like dyke, queer, even redneck are taken over by people who had been taunted with them? It's called reappropriation. Even "Obamacare" used to be a taunt until the administration reappropriated it. Here's Wikipedia on the subject: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reappropriation

The N word has been reappropriated by AAs. That's why it's ok for them to say it about one another but not white people. They've taken it back to take the sting out of it.

Agreed. That said, the history of language development says that, eventually, the word will evolve again and, if it survives in usage (unclear if this one would), could eventually lose the intensity and cultural-reality of the meaning. Over time, language evolves and, sometimes, even the most heinous expressions or words can morph into something altogether different. Granted, this type of language change happens over hundreds and hundreds of years.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:As a British Caribbean family we have an incredibly difficult time understanding African American culture. Our African and other Caribbean friends don't get it either. It is beyond hip hop, rap, crime rates, children out of wedlock, sports stars, impoliteness, but we do not understand any of it.
Our public school experience has been fine, but the kids' friend base is international.

As a white Midwestern American person, may I recommend a visit to the museum on the Mall that opened last year? Another option is to talk to the many African-American people you surely encounter during your regular day.

No comment on how other communities and colonies overcame prior slavery in their regions. But, the joke in the non-AA black community is wondering for how many decades or centuries AA will continue on their path and attempt to blame others for their present behavior.

Ask anyone at World Bank, ADB, IFC or IMF.

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I don’t know why folks get their panties in a knot over the n-word, when rappers and other foul-mouthed “entertainers” use it. The word is either unacceptable in public discourse or not.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm AA. I have told my daughter that if anyone ever calls her that at school, to go ahead and kick their ass. I could care less about the sensitivity training. I just want to make sure that particular person does not call my daughter that again. And my daughter won't get suspended or expelled.

Great another future Starbucks barista with an attitude in the making

I'd hire her DD- a proud black women who stands her ground- over your racially entitled daughter anyday.

Of course, these master of phonics and how they apply to names don't work for free

This is hilarious. I heard about a girl whose mother had named her what she pronounced “Femalay”. — after the gender on the birth certificate.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:As a British Caribbean family we have an incredibly difficult time understanding African American culture. Our African and other Caribbean friends don't get it either. It is beyond hip hop, rap, crime rates, children out of wedlock, sports stars, impoliteness, but we do not understand any of it.
Our public school experience has been fine, but the kids' friend base is international.

As a white Midwestern American person, may I recommend a visit to the museum on the Mall that opened last year? Another option is to talk to the many African-American people you surely encounter during your regular day.

No comment on how other communities and colonies overcame prior slavery in their regions. But, the joke in the non-AA black community is wondering for how many decades or centuries AA will continue on their path and attempt to blame others for their present behavior.

Ask anyone at World Bank, ADB, IFC or IMF.

Forever. There are folks who want “reparations” for generations-ago slavery, I.e., another check from the government.

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I believe that the response was appropriate.

This is the right way to address such thoughts (based on incidents at the US Air Force Academy/USAFA)

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Anonymous wrote:I believe that the response was appropriate.

This is the right way to address such thoughts (based on incidents at the US Air Force Academy/USAFA)

My husband forwarded me this yesterday. I haven't watched it yet, but he said it's powerful.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm AA. I have told my daughter that if anyone ever calls her that at school, to go ahead and kick their ass. I could care less about the sensitivity training. I just want to make sure that particular person does not call my daughter that again. And my daughter won't get suspended or expelled.

Great another future Starbucks barista with an attitude in the making

I'd hire her DD- a proud black women who stands her ground- over your racially entitled daughter anyday.

Of course, these master of phonics and how they apply to names don't work for free

This is hilarious. I heard about a girl whose mother had named her what she pronounced “Femalay”. — after the gender on the birth certificate.

That's an old black wives tale. Supposedly some black women name their newborn after the first thing that they see after childbirth.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm AA. I have told my daughter that if anyone ever calls her that at school, to go ahead and kick their ass. I could care less about the sensitivity training. I just want to make sure that particular person does not call my daughter that again. And my daughter won't get suspended or expelled.

Great another future Starbucks barista with an attitude in the making

I'd hire her DD- a proud black women who stands her ground- over your racially entitled daughter anyday.

Of course, these master of phonics and how they apply to names don't work for free

This is hilarious. I heard about a girl whose mother had named her what she pronounced “Femalay”. — after the gender on the birth certificate.

That's an old black wives tale. Supposedly some black women name their newborn after the first thing that they see after childbirth.

As an ESOL teacher I've taught a few Females, actually. It is usually because the mother gives birth and then is asked to fill out the paperwork. The mother assumes that the only options for names are Male and Female because they're asked to check one. It is due to language barriers and cultural differences.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:As a British Caribbean family we have an incredibly difficult time understanding African American culture. Our African and other Caribbean friends don't get it either. It is beyond hip hop, rap, crime rates, children out of wedlock, sports stars, impoliteness, but we do not understand any of it.
Our public school experience has been fine, but the kids' friend base is international.

As a white Midwestern American person, may I recommend a visit to the museum on the Mall that opened last year? Another option is to talk to the many African-American people you surely encounter during your regular day.

No comment on how other communities and colonies overcame prior slavery in their regions. But, the joke in the non-AA black community is wondering for how many decades or centuries AA will continue on their path and attempt to blame others for their present behavior.

Ask anyone at World Bank, ADB, IFC or IMF.

Forever. There are folks who want “reparations” for generations-ago slavery, I.e., another check from the government.

What's the endgame? Money? Be put in charge of all Gov't? Revenge?

At some point you have to be a responsible productive citizen or spiral everything downward.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm AA. I have told my daughter that if anyone ever calls her that at school, to go ahead and kick their ass. I could care less about the sensitivity training. I just want to make sure that particular person does not call my daughter that again. And my daughter won't get suspended or expelled.

Great another future Starbucks barista with an attitude in the making

I'd hire her DD- a proud black women who stands her ground- over your racially entitled daughter anyday.

Of course, these master of phonics and how they apply to names don't work for free

This is hilarious. I heard about a girl whose mother had named her what she pronounced “Femalay”. — after the gender on the birth certificate.

That's an old black wives tale. Supposedly some black women name their newborn after the first thing that they see after childbirth.

It is like the old Indian joke where the guy asks his son (Fucking Dog) why he wanted to know about how he came up with his siblings names.

[Anonymous]

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As an ESOL teacher I've taught a few Females, actually. It is usually because the mother gives birth and then is asked to fill out the paperwork. The mother assumes that the only options for names are Male and Female because they're asked to check one. It is due to language barriers and cultural differences.

No, you haven't.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:As a British Caribbean family we have an incredibly difficult time understanding African American culture. Our African and other Caribbean friends don't get it either. It is beyond hip hop, rap, crime rates, children out of wedlock, sports stars, impoliteness, but we do not understand any of it.
Our public school experience has been fine, but the kids' friend base is international.

As a white Midwestern American person, may I recommend a visit to the museum on the Mall that opened last year? Another option is to talk to the many African-American people you surely encounter during your regular day.

No comment on how other communities and colonies overcame prior slavery in their regions. But, the joke in the non-AA black community is wondering for how many decades or centuries AA will continue on their path and attempt to blame others for their present behavior.

Ask anyone at World Bank, ADB, IFC or IMF.

Forever. There are folks who want “reparations” for generations-ago slavery, I.e., another check from the government.

What's the endgame? Money? Be put in charge of all Gov't? Revenge?

At some point you have to be a responsible productive citizen or spiral everything downward.

OT, somewhat... but such a good point.

I say this to DH all the time! Even about the 'taking a knee' protests. What exactly do these players want to happen. What specific goal are they looking to achieve?

If it's just a vague, 'we want less blacks to die' then there is way more than needs to be done than just police department reform. Is it 'equality'? That's such a nebulous concept that it's impossible to achieve.

I can see p

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I wonder if OP is the same poster who disses Greatschool rating of Whitman, said that teachers urged the students to sabotage the testing and that no way schools that scored higher are actually better academically than Whitman, bcs they are " schools where you see how bad they are just by passing by?" Now, this pp, maybe the same one is excusing racist behavior and effort from the school to address the issue. Just keep telling your kid how school and principal and making this into a bigger issue than it is, and then act surprised when your kid is as racist as you are. Oh, wait, you wouldn't be surprised, you would be proud!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Come on, don't people remember words like dyke, queer, even redneck are taken over by people who had been taunted with them? It's called reappropriation. Even "Obamacare" used to be a taunt until the administration reappropriated it. Here's Wikipedia on the subject: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reappropriation

The N word has been reappropriated by AAs. That's why it's ok for them to say it about one another but not white people. They've taken it back to take the sting out of it.

Agreed. That said, the history of language development says that, eventually, the word will evolve again and, if it survives in usage (unclear if this one would), could eventually lose the intensity and cultural-reality of the meaning. Over time, language evolves and, sometimes, even the most heinous expressions or words can morph into something altogether different. Granted, this type of language change happens over hundreds and hundreds of years.

You do realize AAs also use the word about persons who are not AA, right? So part of the dynamic here is not only reappropriaion, but linguistic rights - granted only to AAs - to determine when a word has entered the cultural mainstream. It absolutely provokes a backlash when non-AA youths constantly get the message that they have to watch their mouths and the black kids can say anything they want.