Which would lose their Deal feed first: Shepherd, Bancroft, or Lafayette?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Best...thread...EVER!!! Someone threw red meat into the JKLM, WOTP crowd and then stood back to watch. The same crew that are usually sitting back watching CH families sniping at each other are now scared and willing to devour each other whole whilst throwing the carcasses under the bus. Oh what fun!

Last I checked Shepherd and Bancroft were EOTP, and they are arguably the most scared with regard to this discussion. But go and enjoy what you imagine as a WOTP brawl.

We are in one of those neighborhoods and not scared at all. I agree with PP, I find it fascinating when these threads come up. I'm waiting for the not so subtle racism to kick in. So far so good.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Best...thread...EVER!!! Someone threw red meat into the JKLM, WOTP crowd and then stood back to watch. The same crew that are usually sitting back watching CH families sniping at each other are now scared and willing to devour each other whole whilst throwing the carcasses under the bus. Oh what fun!

Last I checked Shepherd and Bancroft were EOTP, and they are arguably the most scared with regard to this discussion. But go and enjoy what you imagine as a WOTP brawl.

We are in one of those neighborhoods and not scared at all. I agree with PP, I find it fascinating when these threads come up. I'm waiting for the not so subtle racism to kick in. So far so good.

+1. I'm also in one of those neighborhoods and just watching the show.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:An overcrowded school should lose Deal, if you truly want to affect overcrowding there. Shepherd is a small school with a small population attending Deal, so the effect would be negligible.

This is a really good point. And unless trends change dramatically and quickly, most of the diversity at Deal is still coming from Shepherd and Bancroft. DCPS does not want Deal to be majority white.

SY15/16 demographics aren't up yet. But my guess is it's already majority white.

Not true based on currently posted numbers. If Shepherd were removed, Deal would still not be majority white, and the black population would only decrees by 5%.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Best...thread...EVER!!! Someone threw red meat into the JKLM, WOTP crowd and then stood back to watch. The same crew that are usually sitting back watching CH families sniping at each other are now scared and willing to devour each other whole whilst throwing the carcasses under the bus. Oh what fun!

Last I checked Shepherd and Bancroft were EOTP, and they are arguably the most scared with regard to this discussion. But go and enjoy what you imagine as a WOTP brawl.

We are in one of those neighborhoods and not scared at all. I agree with PP, I find it fascinating when these threads come up. I'm waiting for the not so subtle racism to kick in. So far so good.

+1. I'm also in one of those neighborhoods and just watching the show.

So who is scared then? Certainly not the folks at JKLM, given that there is next to zero chance their schools will be zoned out of Deal.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Best...thread...EVER!!! Someone threw red meat into the JKLM, WOTP crowd and then stood back to watch. The same crew that are usually sitting back watching CH families sniping at each other are now scared and willing to devour each other whole whilst throwing the carcasses under the bus. Oh what fun!

Last I checked Shepherd and Bancroft were EOTP, and they are arguably the most scared with regard to this discussion. But go and enjoy what you imagine as a WOTP brawl.

We are in one of those neighborhoods and not scared at all. I agree with PP, I find it fascinating when these threads come up. I'm waiting for the not so subtle racism to kick in. So far so good.

+1. I'm also in one of those neighborhoods and just watching the show.

So who is scared then? Certainly not the folks at JKLM, given that there is next to zero chance their schools will be zoned out of Deal.

K does not feed Deal, and L could easily get zoned out. I think that is more likely than other option.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:An overcrowded school should lose Deal, if you truly want to affect overcrowding there. Shepherd is a small school with a small population attending Deal, so the effect would be negligible.

This is a really good point. And unless trends change dramatically and quickly, most of the diversity at Deal is still coming from Shepherd and Bancroft. DCPS does not want Deal to be majority white.

SY15/16 demographics aren't up yet. But my guess is it's already majority white.

Not true based on currently posted numbers. If Shepherd were removed, Deal would still not be majority white, and the black population would only decrees by 5%.

Nobody can state this for a fact. There are kids that live IB for Shepherd/Bancroft but don't attend Bancroft/Shepherd but do later attend Deal. So you don't really know what % of minority students at Deal attend from any neighborhood.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Best...thread...EVER!!! Someone threw red meat into the JKLM, WOTP crowd and then stood back to watch. The same crew that are usually sitting back watching CH families sniping at each other are now scared and willing to devour each other whole whilst throwing the carcasses under the bus. Oh what fun!

Last I checked Shepherd and Bancroft were EOTP, and they are arguably the most scared with regard to this discussion. But go and enjoy what you imagine as a WOTP brawl.

1. I (like most everyone watching this sh*t show with glee) don't differentiate. The palpable fear and elbow throwing of everyone at Deal and Wilson is just so amusing.
2. #s do not lie, my dear. Look at the volume of posts in a single day. Clearly OP hit a nerve. I'd buy her a beer if she'd out herself.

[Anonymous]

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You guys aren't getting it. If you only remove Shepherd and Bancroft, you're still left with an overcrowded middle school. Janney continues to grow, as does Hearst and Lafayette. You have either remove one more school or don't remove any and open another middle school.

I think you are mistaken. According to the DME material as from the boundary adjustment, Bancroft was supplying 11% of Deal students, and Shepherd was sending 7%. An 18% reduction in Deal's student body would put it well below the capacity max, which would leave room for the at-risk population DCPS was trying to mandate for each school, and potentially even leave room for future neighborhood growth.

Try the math using capacity at Deal and Janny and Lafayette's 3rd grade classes. Also, do you have link?

On phone, so link hard. The percentages sourced from each school are at the DME page of MS feeder data leading up to the boundary adjustments. Current enrollment of Deal is 1341, over a max capacity of 1200.

Current audited enrollment for 3rd grade class of J/M/L is 318. If you assume that many kids for 3 grades of middle school at Deal, that a total of 954, versus capacity of 1200. Hearst adds 42 per grade, Bancroft adds 73 per grade, and Shepherd adds 42 per grade. That brings us to 1425 total, which is way over the 1200 capacity. Cutting just Bancroft puts the total at 1206. Cutting Shepherd and Bancroft puts the total at 1080.

If what some people say about the OOB population at Hearst Bancroft and Shepherd is true, then the easier choice is to limit OOB rights if school is over capacity. If that is not an option, then may need to remove one or more of the feeders entirely.

Bancroft is 40-45 in grade 5, not 73. Carry on with this silly thread.

[Anonymous]

These threads get boring with no new ideas, and we have some time to kill until the next boundary review in 10 years/20 years/never, so here's a novel solution:

Janney is so large, turn it into a PK-8 education campus that feeds to Wilson.

[Anonymous]

Who cares, it is what is! It's overcrowded, they don't serve sushi for lunch, etc.....blah blah why waste our time speculating. Move on

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:These threads get boring with no new ideas, and we have some time to kill until the next boundary review in 10 years/20 years/never, so here's a novel solution:

Janney is so large, turn it into a PK-8 education campus that feeds to Wilson.

That may be best idea yet!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Try the math using capacity at Deal and Janny and Lafayette's 3rd grade classes. Also, do you have link?

On phone, so link hard. The percentages sourced from each school are at the DME page of MS feeder data leading up to the boundary adjustments. Current enrollment of Deal is 1341, over a max capacity of 1200.

Current audited enrollment for 3rd grade class of J/M/L is 318. If you assume that many kids for 3 grades of middle school at Deal, that a total of 954, versus capacity of 1200. Hearst adds 42 per grade, Bancroft adds 73 per grade, and Shepherd adds 42 per grade. That brings us to 1425 total, which is way over the 1200 capacity. Cutting just Bancroft puts the total at 1206. Cutting Shepherd and Bancroft puts the total at 1080.

If what some people say about the OOB population at Hearst Bancroft and Shepherd is true, then the easier choice is to limit OOB rights if school is over capacity. If that is not an option, then may need to remove one or more of the feeders entirely.

Bancroft is 40-45 in grade 5, not 73. Carry on with this silly thread.

PP asked for calculations based on 3rd grade, not 5th grade. Here are the 2015-16 Bancroft grade sizes:

5th - 53
4th - 71
3rd - 73
2nd - 66
1st - 76
K - 71

http://osse.dc.gov/sites/default/files/dc/sites/osse/publication/attachments/SY%202015-16%20School-by-School%20Enrollment%20Audit%20Data%20%28Updated%29.pdf

Carry on with your efforts to disrupt and deflect any productive discussion, just because you don't like the result it leads to.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OOB feeders account for 1/3 of Deal's population. That would allow OOB kids from all over to have access and put the capacity well below limits.

Great solution if it's accurate. What's your source for 1/3 of Deal being OOB students?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Lordy. This thread comes up every quarter or so. Everyone spouts off. "The way to fix it is so." "It's obvious what need to be done." "Of course X school needs to be cut out." OOB kids (many of whom have attended their OOB school since PK) must be kicked for the feeder path." "Something must be done." "I envision the solution that doesn't impact my snowflake." Blah, blah, freaking blah. Everyone on here has repeated the same crap for 10+ years on here. If you want to impact change in some way (or defend the current system) get off here and make your arguments to decision makers.

I think it's a useful discussion because - for me at least - it lets me hear all sides of the issue, so I can make up my own mind about what makes sense and what doesn't. Seems to me that the people trying to squash discussion are often the ones who benefit from an unfair status quo, so they don't want any open discussion about possible changes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Best...thread...EVER!!! Someone threw red meat into the JKLM, WOTP crowd and then stood back to watch. The same crew that are usually sitting back watching CH families sniping at each other are now scared and willing to devour each other whole whilst throwing the carcasses under the bus. Oh what fun!

Last I checked Shepherd and Bancroft were EOTP, and they are arguably the most scared with regard to this discussion. But go and enjoy what you imagine as a WOTP brawl.

1. I (like most everyone watching this sh*t show with glee) don't differentiate. The palpable fear and elbow throwing of everyone at Deal and Wilson is just so amusing.
2. #s do not lie, my dear. Look at the volume of posts in a single day. Clearly OP hit a nerve. I'd buy her a beer if she'd out herself.

Man, you sound like a nasty person!