Almost 7 year old in kindergarten!!

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Anonymous wrote:Why are you concerned exactly?

Yeah, OP. Does the presence of this kid some how tarnish the sheen on your shiny snowflake?

Because the redshirted kids seem to be the ones behaving badly - and constantly taking the teachers' attention away from the kids who are the right age.

That's interesting, because we had the opposite experience. In my child's class, it was always the kids who were on the younger side who were causing trouble, particularly one kid whose birthday was on September 30 so was four when K started. Apparently, the school had told the mom that they didn't think he was ready, but she sent him anyway. That one very young child took up a lot of the teacher's time because he was so immature. He needed more time before starting school, but his family wanted him in school even though he wasn't ready so the whole class was lost time almost every day.

The two oldest are the worst behaved. They are over a year+ older than the other kids who are all within six months of each other. They are physically bigger and both are hitting and pushing the other kids, they are verbally being nasty to the other kids. My kid says they go into time out a lot. The September child is not immature. He is being held to an unreasonable standard because he is with kids 12-18 months older than him. He is 5 basically when starting K. A month does not make a huge difference. I have a September kid. He's 6 and in 1st. He would have been miserable in K. this year.

The child I wrote about was in a class with very few, if any, "redshirted" kids. He was very immature for his age and the school picked up on this when he came in for the K round up day and suggested to the parents that it would be better for him to wait a year. The parents felt that since he was eligible, he should go. It is possible that free schooling was part of the reason for the family, but I don't know that for a fact.

This child went on to continue having problems in school. I worked with him in K and he was a sweet child but just overwhelmed by being in school, which only became worse in first grade. I do think he would have been more successful with another year to mature. If he'd been born a day later, his parents would have had to wait for the next year, and I think he'd be having a more successful school experience to this day.

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I'm guessing that the people who know the birthday of every kid in the class have their kid in private school.

Or our children talk to other children.

With birthday parties, recreational activities that have associated ages, my child talking to his friends, me being friendly with some parents, it's not difficult to know every child's month and year of birth (and how many siblings they have, and what their favorite color is...). Age is a big topic of discussion among young children, particularly whenever one of them has a birthday. They then need to sort out who's older and younger and so on.

How many children in your child's class? Are you saying that you're in public school, and you know the month and year of birth of every child in your child's kindergarten class?

Our public school has everyone's picture up with their birthday month in the classroom, and birthdays are celebrated in the classroom. The year is not listed, but my child will come home and say "Larla turned 6 today!" Or we get party invites that say, "Join us to celebrate Larla's 6th Birthday," Or my child will be on the playground and kids will discuss ages. She came home once saying, "Larla turned 6, and Larlo turned 6, why did I just turn 5?"

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I'm guessing that the people who know the birthday of every kid in the class have their kid in private school.

Or our children talk to other children.

With birthday parties, recreational activities that have associated ages, my child talking to his friends, me being friendly with some parents, it's not difficult to know every child's month and year of birth (and how many siblings they have, and what their favorite color is...). Age is a big topic of discussion among young children, particularly whenever one of them has a birthday. They then need to sort out who's older and younger and so on.

How many children in your child's class? Are you saying that you're in public school, and you know the month and year of birth of every child in your child's kindergarten class?

My sons is in private and there are 14 in his class. It was obvious when he moved on from his preschool class of the "late 4's" and we didn't know anyone in kindergarten at back to school day. They had all gone on to the "5's" class instead of k- redskrting for a very expensive year. These are all kids with April and may birthdays. My son was the only 5 year old starting K- all the rest were 6. As he is a third child with closely spaced sibs and tall and smart enough we felt comfortable advancing him on time even though it meant he was the youngest- but it is odd how prevelant this is on high SES areas where SAH spouses are common.

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Op here---- I also want to mention we are the most affluent school district in the county. So you can judge to see how "competitive" some parents can get.

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Anonymous wrote:Why are you concerned exactly?

Yeah, OP. Does the presence of this kid some how tarnish the sheen on your shiny snowflake?

Because the redshirted kids seem to be the ones behaving badly - and constantly taking the teachers' attention away from the kids who are the right age.

That's interesting, because we had the opposite experience. In my child's class, it was always the kids who were on the younger side who were causing trouble, particularly one kid whose birthday was on September 30 so was four when K started. Apparently, the school had told the mom that they didn't think he was ready, but she sent him anyway. That one very young child took up a lot of the teacher's time because he was so immature. He needed more time before starting school, but his family wanted him in school even though he wasn't ready so the whole class was lost time almost every day.

The two oldest are the worst behaved. They are over a year+ older than the other kids who are all within six months of each other. They are physically bigger and both are hitting and pushing the other kids, they are verbally being nasty to the other kids. My kid says they go into time out a lot. The September child is not immature. He is being held to an unreasonable standard because he is with kids 12-18 months older than him. He is 5 basically when starting K. A month does not make a huge difference. I have a September kid. He's 6 and in 1st. He would have been miserable in K. this year.

The child I wrote about was in a class with very few, if any, "redshirted" kids. He was very immature for his age and the school picked up on this when he came in for the K round up day and suggested to the parents that it would be better for him to wait a year. The parents felt that since he was eligible, he should go. It is possible that free schooling was part of the reason for the family, but I don't know that for a fact.

This child went on to continue having problems in school. I worked with him in K and he was a sweet child but just overwhelmed by being in school, which only became worse in first grade. I do think he would have been more successful with another year to mature. If he'd been born a day later, his parents would have had to wait for the next year, and I think he'd be having a more successful school experience to this day.

There should definitely be a range by a couple of months. I think most people are just annoyed that the difference in ages can be up to two years.

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There should definitely be a range by a couple of months. I think most people are just annoyed that the difference in ages can be up to two years.

There will be a range of 12 months under any circumstance, unless you want to have half grades. Maybe you can muster up the energy to be indignant about a range of 16 months instead of 12; I can't.

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There should definitely be a range by a couple of months. I think most people are just annoyed that the difference in ages can be up to two years.

There will be a range of 12 months under any circumstance, unless you want to have half grades. Maybe you can muster up the energy to be indignant about a range of 16 months instead of 12; I can't.

12-14 months is reasonable. 16-24 months is not. Someone has to be the youngest, someone has to be the oldest.

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There should definitely be a range by a couple of months. I think most people are just annoyed that the difference in ages can be up to two years.

There will be a range of 12 months under any circumstance, unless you want to have half grades. Maybe you can muster up the energy to be indignant about a range of 16 months instead of 12; I can't.

12-14 months is reasonable. 16-24 months is not. Someone has to be the youngest, someone has to be the oldest.

14 months is reasonable, 15 months is not, because why?

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There should definitely be a range by a couple of months. I think most people are just annoyed that the difference in ages can be up to two years.

There will be a range of 12 months under any circumstance, unless you want to have half grades. Maybe you can muster up the energy to be indignant about a range of 16 months instead of 12; I can't.

12-14 months is reasonable. 16-24 months is not. Someone has to be the youngest, someone has to be the oldest.

14 months is reasonable, 15 months is not, because why?

At some point you need a cutoff, 15 months is fine too but at some point when you have kids almost two years apart because parents held their kids back with excuses of they aren't ready, immature, something more is going on, including parenting and home life.

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There should definitely be a range by a couple of months. I think most people are just annoyed that the difference in ages can be up to two years.

There will be a range of 12 months under any circumstance, unless you want to have half grades. Maybe you can muster up the energy to be indignant about a range of 16 months instead of 12; I can't.

12-14 months is reasonable. 16-24 months is not. Someone has to be the youngest, someone has to be the oldest.

but who is saying anything about 24 months? The most that I have heard of in real life is 14 months.

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Or our children talk to other children.

With birthday parties, recreational activities that have associated ages, my child talking to his friends, me being friendly with some parents, it's not difficult to know every child's month and year of birth (and how many siblings they have, and what their favorite color is...). Age is a big topic of discussion among young children, particularly whenever one of them has a birthday. They then need to sort out who's older and younger and so on.

How many children in your child's class? Are you saying that you're in public school, and you know the month and year of birth of every child in your child's kindergarten class?

Not every, but most. There are 20 kids in a class. It is not that hard, if you are friendly with the kids and their families. I don't know why this is so difficult for you to accept, unless you are confusing the concept of kids in a class vs. kids in a grade.

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There should definitely be a range by a couple of months. I think most people are just annoyed that the difference in ages can be up to two years.

There will be a range of 12 months under any circumstance, unless you want to have half grades. Maybe you can muster up the energy to be indignant about a range of 16 months instead of 12; I can't.

12-14 months is reasonable. 16-24 months is not. Someone has to be the youngest, someone has to be the oldest.

14 months is reasonable, 15 months is not, because why?

At some point you need a cutoff, 15 months is fine too but at some point when you have kids almost two years apart because parents held their kids back with excuses of they aren't ready, immature, something more is going on, including parenting and home life.

Yes, and there is one. It just isn't where you think it should be.

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There should definitely be a range by a couple of months. I think most people are just annoyed that the difference in ages can be up to two years.

There will be a range of 12 months under any circumstance, unless you want to have half grades. Maybe you can muster up the energy to be indignant about a range of 16 months instead of 12; I can't.

12-14 months is reasonable. 16-24 months is not. Someone has to be the youngest, someone has to be the oldest.

but who is saying anything about 24 months? The most that I have heard of in real life is 14 months.

Legally it is 24 months. At least in VA. One person wrote about a redshirted October child.

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There should definitely be a range by a couple of months. I think most people are just annoyed that the difference in ages can be up to two years.

There will be a range of 12 months under any circumstance, unless you want to have half grades. Maybe you can muster up the energy to be indignant about a range of 16 months instead of 12; I can't.

12-14 months is reasonable. 16-24 months is not. Someone has to be the youngest, someone has to be the oldest.

but who is saying anything about 24 months? The most that I have heard of in real life is 14 months.

One of the two older kids is 17 months older than the rest.

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My DS is in K and is almost 7. His SN are not apparent to most people. They are also none of your business.