Almost 7 year old in kindergarten!!

[Anonymous]

You're right, he would have had more issues, including behavioral if he was that bright and not being academically challenged. You can spin it how you want, but holding back is not the answer. Providing the supports to our kids is.

You are soooo wrong! But, clearly you will never admit it because you have some personal issue with this. Do you feel guilty about sending your young child?

signed: a mom who did NOT redshirt because I was fortunate enough to have kids who were born in winter and early spring.......but I taught plenty of kids and know that some Sept kids are just not ready!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

You're right, he would have had more issues, including behavioral if he was that bright and not being academically challenged. You can spin it how you want, but holding back is not the answer. Providing the supports to our kids is.

You are soooo wrong! But, clearly you will never admit it because you have some personal issue with this. Do you feel guilty about sending your young child?

signed: a mom who did NOT redshirt because I was fortunate enough to have kids who were born in winter and early spring.......but I taught plenty of kids and know that some Sept kids are just not ready!

If kids are not ready, then the preschool and parents should have prepared them for school. I feel bad about holding my child back a year where he didn't get much out of school for a year, but I'm glad we moved him ahead a year to give him what he needs. We have worked a lot with him to get him ready and for him to be prepared. A huge part of it is parenting.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think there are a lot of assumptions on this thread that A) the redshirted kid is the biggest, B) the redshirted kid is the most disruptive, C) the redshirted kid is so advanced that it changes the curriculum. You do realize that these are just assumptions right? I dare say most redshirted kids are none of the above....

Actually, all three have been our experience.

not our experience.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

You're right, he would have had more issues, including behavioral if he was that bright and not being academically challenged. You can spin it how you want, but holding back is not the answer. Providing the supports to our kids is.

You are soooo wrong! But, clearly you will never admit it because you have some personal issue with this. Do you feel guilty about sending your young child?

signed: a mom who did NOT redshirt because I was fortunate enough to have kids who were born in winter and early spring.......but I taught plenty of kids and know that some Sept kids are just not ready!

If kids are not ready, then the preschool and parents should have prepared them for school. I feel bad about holding my child back a year where he didn't get much out of school for a year, but I'm glad we moved him ahead a year to give him what he needs. We have worked a lot with him to get him ready and for him to be prepared. A huge part of it is parenting.

Well my aren't you smug. There are certain situations where holding back is the right answer - parenting or not. just count your lucky stars you haven't experienced them. Try our child was in an orphanage for the first two years of her life and could barely walk at two years old. She was behind in every way. Plus having attachment issues. There was NO WAY she was ready for K (birthday right before the cut off). Holding back was the right option in our case. And I'm sure other folks have their reasons. You cannot generalize for every child.

[Anonymous]

If kids are not ready, then the preschool and parents should have prepared them for school. I feel bad about holding my child back a year where he didn't get much out of school for a year, but I'm glad we moved him ahead a year to give him what he needs. We have worked a lot with him to get him ready and for him to be prepared. A huge part of it is parenting.

Why do you care what others do for their own kids?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

If kids are not ready, then the preschool and parents should have prepared them for school. I feel bad about holding my child back a year where he didn't get much out of school for a year, but I'm glad we moved him ahead a year to give him what he needs. We have worked a lot with him to get him ready and for him to be prepared. A huge part of it is parenting.

Why do you care what others do for their own kids?

oh people claim to care because having a redshirted kid in their child's class causes all kinds of deleterious effects.... (sarcasm)

[Anonymous]

So, a parent with a child who has a late September birthday is incompetent because said child is not "ready" for Kindergarten? Sad.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So, a parent with a child who has a late September birthday is incompetent because said child is not "ready" for Kindergarten? Sad.

No, but it doesn't make sense not to start them and give them a chance to succeed. If they cannot succeed, then you repeat K. Parents need to get their kids ready for K, and not just wait and expect the school to do it. Kids should know basics like numbers, shapes, colors, alphabet, and begin to write and read. It isn't the child's fault if the parents choose not to prepare them or choose a preschool to prepare them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

If kids are not ready, then the preschool and parents should have prepared them for school. I feel bad about holding my child back a year where he didn't get much out of school for a year, but I'm glad we moved him ahead a year to give him what he needs. We have worked a lot with him to get him ready and for him to be prepared. A huge part of it is parenting.

Why do you care what others do for their own kids?

Because it impacts my child and his needs. If my child goes into K. reading, he's basically in a holding pattern till the rest of the kids catch up. If my child knows his basics, he's not getting much academically out of school as it is review. If a child is held back, socially it makes it difficult, especially if the older ones, like in our situation are bored and misbehaving which constantly disrupts class time. And, then worse, to fit in, my child initially would try to copy (we put a stop to that quickly as did the school but they cannot get the other kids behaviors under control). This year, in 1st, my child is ready and asking for multiplication and division, but they are working on basics like telling time, which my child has known for several years. So, the only way to meet his interests is to homeschool on top of regular school. Most kids are ready to do more but not being given the opportunity and instead we dumb it down.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

You're right, he would have had more issues, including behavioral if he was that bright and not being academically challenged. You can spin it how you want, but holding back is not the answer. Providing the supports to our kids is.

You are soooo wrong! But, clearly you will never admit it because you have some personal issue with this. Do you feel guilty about sending your young child?

signed: a mom who did NOT redshirt because I was fortunate enough to have kids who were born in winter and early spring.......but I taught plenty of kids and know that some Sept kids are just not ready!

If kids are not ready, then the preschool and parents should have prepared them for school. I feel bad about holding my child back a year where he didn't get much out of school for a year, but I'm glad we moved him ahead a year to give him what he needs. We have worked a lot with him to get him ready and for him to be prepared. A huge part of it is parenting.

Well my aren't you smug. There are certain situations where holding back is the right answer - parenting or not. just count your lucky stars you haven't experienced them. Try our child was in an orphanage for the first two years of her life and could barely walk at two years old. She was behind in every way. Plus having attachment issues. There was NO WAY she was ready for K (birthday right before the cut off). Holding back was the right option in our case. And I'm sure other folks have their reasons. You cannot generalize for every child.

We adopted a SN child too who has been in therapy for years. Good try. Moving my child ahead was far better than when we held her back. Your situation is a bit different than most, but a parent should not be holding their child back for "immaturity," sports or size. If anything, having the SN is all the more reason to work with your kids and get them prepared. It was/is a long and difficult road, but holding back for some kids with SN is not the answer either.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

You're right, he would have had more issues, including behavioral if he was that bright and not being academically challenged. You can spin it how you want, but holding back is not the answer. Providing the supports to our kids is.

You are soooo wrong! But, clearly you will never admit it because you have some personal issue with this. Do you feel guilty about sending your young child?

signed: a mom who did NOT redshirt because I was fortunate enough to have kids who were born in winter and early spring.......but I taught plenty of kids and know that some Sept kids are just not ready!

If kids are not ready, then the preschool and parents should have prepared them for school. I feel bad about holding my child back a year where he didn't get much out of school for a year, but I'm glad we moved him ahead a year to give him what he needs. We have worked a lot with him to get him ready and for him to be prepared. A huge part of it is parenting.

Well my aren't you smug. There are certain situations where holding back is the right answer - parenting or not. just count your lucky stars you haven't experienced them. Try our child was in an orphanage for the first two years of her life and could barely walk at two years old. She was behind in every way. Plus having attachment issues. There was NO WAY she was ready for K (birthday right before the cut off). Holding back was the right option in our case. And I'm sure other folks have their reasons. You cannot generalize for every child.

We adopted a SN child too who has been in therapy for years. Good try. Moving my child ahead was far better than when we held her back. Your situation is a bit different than most, but a parent should not be holding their child back for "immaturity," sports or size. If anything, having the SN is all the more reason to work with your kids and get them prepared. It was/is a long and difficult road, but holding back for some kids with SN is not the answer either.

well glad it worked for you - holding back was right for our child with attachment issues.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

If kids are not ready, then the preschool and parents should have prepared them for school. I feel bad about holding my child back a year where he didn't get much out of school for a year, but I'm glad we moved him ahead a year to give him what he needs. We have worked a lot with him to get him ready and for him to be prepared. A huge part of it is parenting.

Why do you care what others do for their own kids?

Because it impacts my child and his needs. If my child goes into K. reading, he's basically in a holding pattern till the rest of the kids catch up. If my child knows his basics, he's not getting much academically out of school as it is review. If a child is held back, socially it makes it difficult, especially if the older ones, like in our situation are bored and misbehaving which constantly disrupts class time. And, then worse, to fit in, my child initially would try to copy (we put a stop to that quickly as did the school but they cannot get the other kids behaviors under control). This year, in 1st, my child is ready and asking for multiplication and division, but they are working on basics like telling time, which my child has known for several years. So, the only way to meet his interests is to homeschool on top of regular school. Most kids are ready to do more but not being given the opportunity and instead we dumb it down.

Wait what? I thought the argument was that red-shirted kids were so far advanced that the curriculum was going too fast for kids going on time. your post suggests just the opposite.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Because it impacts my child and his needs. If my child goes into K. reading, he's basically in a holding pattern till the rest of the kids catch up. If my child knows his basics, he's not getting much academically out of school as it is review. If a child is held back, socially it makes it difficult, especially if the older ones, like in our situation are bored and misbehaving which constantly disrupts class time. And, then worse, to fit in, my child initially would try to copy (we put a stop to that quickly as did the school but they cannot get the other kids behaviors under control). This year, in 1st, my child is ready and asking for multiplication and division, but they are working on basics like telling time, which my child has known for several years. So, the only way to meet his interests is to homeschool on top of regular school. Most kids are ready to do more but not being given the opportunity and instead we dumb it down.

Wait what? I thought the argument was that red-shirted kids were so far advanced that the curriculum was going too fast for kids going on time. your post suggests just the opposite.

PP is complaining that her child (who either was or was not redshirted) is not being taught multiplication or division in 1st. I wouldn't put too much weight in her post.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I have a child w/a late Nov bday (FCPS) so they will start K at 5.5 and will finish K at 6.5. How is a 6.5 year old in K that different from a 7 year old, really?

Exactly. People are taking extremes. Could there be a 6 and 8 yo in the same class? Sure. But it is likely the 6 year old is close to 7 by the time the other child turns 8.
So maybe at the extreme we are talking about an almost 7 year old and a new 6 yo.

My DS liked mincraft when he was 5 and at 7.5 he is still taking about it. I don't see this changing soon.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

If kids are not ready, then the preschool and parents should have prepared them for school. I feel bad about holding my child back a year where he didn't get much out of school for a year, but I'm glad we moved him ahead a year to give him what he needs. We have worked a lot with him to get him ready and for him to be prepared. A huge part of it is parenting.

Why do you care what others do for their own kids?

Because it impacts my child and his needs. If my child goes into K. reading, he's basically in a holding pattern till the rest of the kids catch up. If my child knows his basics, he's not getting much academically out of school as it is review. If a child is held back, socially it makes it difficult, especially if the older ones, like in our situation are bored and misbehaving which constantly disrupts class time. And, then worse, to fit in, my child initially would try to copy (we put a stop to that quickly as did the school but they cannot get the other kids behaviors under control). This year, in 1st, my child is ready and asking for multiplication and division, but they are working on basics like telling time, which my child has known for several years. So, the only way to meet his interests is to homeschool on top of regular school. Most kids are ready to do more but not being given the opportunity and instead we dumb it down.

Wait what? I thought the argument was that red-shirted kids were so far advanced that the curriculum was going too fast for kids going on time. your post suggests just the opposite.

My kid is keeping up academically with the red shirted kids who are 8, and he's still 6, however those kids should be academically much further along and its clear that they should be far more advanced as they are capable of far more and their behavior is poor and its partly due to them not having peers their own age. My child can do far more than the school is teaching as can these kids. Its sad they've been held back and that they are thought of as the bad kids, when if they were in the proper grade, they'd probably be fine.