[Sigh] I find DCPS employees tiring. Let's start with a reminder that this isn't totally (or primarily) about evaluating teachers. But beyond that, the argument that you and your kind have made for years that because tests don't tell everything they are good for nothing has not only failed to carry the day, but damaged any credibility you might otherwise have. Is there an issue with a static measure? Sure. There needs to be some consideration on that point. But that doesn't invalidate the testing as a measure of where the kids in the school are against a measure. Plus, and let me type this all in caps so you don't miss my point again teach, I CARE ABOUT MY KID BEING IN AN ENVIRONMENT WITH HIGH PERFORMING KIDS THAN YOUR PETTY DCPS UNION CARD CRAP. |
Just like YY started out struggling on paper as far as scores are concerned, ITS and MV will be on par with YY in a few years. They have matching demographics and no reason not to succeed. By every indication, families love it there. PP pointed out that the 3rd graders (I think kids that started there in PK4) are in the mid 50s. |
Learn to read. I care about other people, but not at the expense of my own kid's education. See the difference? Your all or none construct is cute; took about 1/2 second to pierce the ferocity of your word play. |
| Anyone else take notice of Ludlow Taylor's scores relative to last year's miraculous improvement on DCCASS? Things that make you go hmmmmmmmm......................... |
| Do we find out individual scores? |
This is what we need to make any sense out of any of these scores going forward. Then DCPS needs specific strategies to enhance the scores of high achieving student or maintain, bring up the score of students in the middle, and actively use remedial strategy with students at the bottom. But giving them all the same curriculum or cornerstones (or whatever it is called) and saying this is now equity won't make a difference if there is a huge learning gap between the bottom and top!!! That's assuming you are a DCPS teacher or blind supporter. Realize many of us use these tests to figure out which schools have a preponderance of high performing kids. I don't care if they came in prepared or if the school got them there, I just care if they are there now. And, yeah, my kid is high performing. Conceptually I care about how well a school handles SN or poverty. But not more than I care about my high performing kid being surrounded by like performers. And this right here is why I hate so many of the threads on schools in DC. And why I love that my child goes to EL Haynes. Where I can only hope that he will be a high achiever that will help to raise everyone up. I appreciate your honesty, PP - at least you don't pretend to truly care about anyone but your own kid. Learn to read. I care about other people, but not at the expense of my own kid's education. See the difference? Your all or none construct is cute; took about 1/2 second to pierce the ferocity of your word play. No. You said that in concept you care about how a school deals with things like special needs and poverty. The reasonable inference is that you care about it in concept but not in practice. The rest of your statements bear that out. I am not trying to be cute or saying that my position is superior to yours. I honestly appreciate that you are willing to say that you care more about your own child's achievement than the kid down the street or across the park, etc. Too many posters spew platitudes about they care about these things, when in reality they only care about their own child's outcomes, or the outcomes of kids that look like them. |
OSSE website says individual scores will go home in December. |
2R has been around longer than YY and only teaches in English. So what happened? |
| Check the equity data posted earlier for 2R. Much higher percentage of economically disadvantaged and special needs students for starters. |
Also YY only goes thru 5th and 2R they 8th. Citywide the middle school scores were somewhat lower than 3-5. |
+1 |
17 year olds type better than 8 year olds. |
ITS and MV have different admissions entry options than YY. Also, until last year YY had time stamp waitlists which one could guess helped ensure dedicated families attending. |
This nicely highlights what people--especially the AA moms who have 250k income and are middle class don't get: the problem is one of race and not income or class. Problems in society inhibit AA students' achievement and income/ class is only a small part of it. |
Did you look at the scores for every school in DC? Income is a huge part of it. |