PSA: not a pick up line, gentlemen!

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Anonymous wrote:Okay all you PUA guys, what do you do if you don't want just a friend and also don't want just a one night stand? Would you neg a woman you wanted to date, or get to know better? Why the rush to have sex by the third date

Yes, of course we would. The goal is sex. Anyway, you just dangle the carrot of long-term relationship in front of them, fuck them for a month or so, and then never talk to them again. It's really quite simple.

Are you fourteen? You seem to have entirely misunderstood my question.

I did not ask how you get women to bed.

I asked how you would conduct yourself with a woman you did want to talk to again, someone who made you feel happy, safe, capable. Would you still insult and "fuck" those women? Or is the idea of a long term relationship abhorrent to you generally?

Do you have any appreciation for what a good woman can do for your life? And vice versa?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Okay all you PUA guys, what do you do if you don't want just a friend and also don't want just a one night stand? Would you neg a woman you wanted to date, or get to know better? Why the rush to have sex by the third date

Yes, of course we would. The goal is sex. Anyway, you just dangle the carrot of long-term relationship in front of them, fuck them for a month or so, and then never talk to them again. It's really quite simple.

Yeah and I'm sure that works a charm. I mean, what woman wouldn't want to get with a side who insulted her as a means of flirting and needs to read a manual to learn basic human social interaction? I'm sure you have the ladies beating down your door... (Hence the need for you to read books on how to talk to them)

Women only seem to beat down the door for about 10% of the dudes. There are probably another 60% of us who are tolerable to one degree or another. And 30% are just unfuckable. (Caution: statistics have been pulled out of my rectum and may not be accurate.) The tricks are for those guys in the 60% who desperately want women to treat them like they treat the 10%. (The 30% probably want that too, but nothing is going to work for them, even by accident.)

I'm guessing that's not the only thing that's been pulled out of your rectum...

[Anonymous]

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Do you have any appreciation for what a good woman can do for your life?

Apparently not. Why don't you fill me in?

[Anonymous]

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If you are fundamentally unattractive to women, you are not going to overcome that using dopey PUA voodoo. Instead of using pick-up lines and "negging" women, try hitting the gym, educating yourself, focusing on your career and learning to do something useful. That's way more attractive.

Certainly. Inheriting money helps.

[Anonymous]

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If you are fundamentally unattractive to women, you are not going to overcome that using dopey PUA voodoo. Instead of using pick-up lines and "negging" women, try hitting the gym, educating yourself, focusing on your career and learning to do something useful. That's way more attractive.

x2.

And try thinking of women as actual human beings. Not just objects for you to accumulate.

[Anonymous]

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Women only seem to beat down the door for about 10% of the dudes. There are probably another 60% of us who are tolerable to one degree or another. And 30% are just unfuckable. (Caution: statistics have been pulled out of my rectum and may not be accurate.) The tricks are for those guys in the 60% who desperately want women to treat them like they treat the 10%. (The 30% probably want that too, but nothing is going to work for them, even by accident.)

I'm guessing that's not the only thing that's been pulled out of your rectum...

What else did you have in mind? Because I'm not sure how, exactly, you're trying to insult me with this. Some kind of homophobic slur is my best guess, but that seems pretty lame.

[Anonymous]

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Women only seem to beat down the door for about 10% of the dudes. There are probably another 60% of us who are tolerable to one degree or another. And 30% are just unfuckable. (Caution: statistics have been pulled out of my rectum and may not be accurate.) The tricks are for those guys in the 60% who desperately want women to treat them like they treat the 10%. (The 30% probably want that too, but nothing is going to work for them, even by accident.)

I'm guessing that's not the only thing that's been pulled out of your rectum...

What else did you have in mind? Because I'm not sure how, exactly, you're trying to insult me with this. Some kind of homophobic slur is my best guess, but that seems pretty lame.

Let me clarify. Everything you've said is utter shit.

[Anonymous]

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Women only seem to beat down the door for about 10% of the dudes. There are probably another 60% of us who are tolerable to one degree or another. And 30% are just unfuckable. (Caution: statistics have been pulled out of my rectum and may not be accurate.) The tricks are for those guys in the 60% who desperately want women to treat them like they treat the 10%. (The 30% probably want that too, but nothing is going to work for them, even by accident.)

I'm guessing that's not the only thing that's been pulled out of your rectum...

What else did you have in mind? Because I'm not sure how, exactly, you're trying to insult me with this. Some kind of homophobic slur is my best guess, but that seems pretty lame.

Let me clarify. Everything you've said is utter shit.

Very persuasive. I stand corrected.

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Women only seem to beat down the door for about 10% of the dudes. There are probably another 60% of us who are tolerable to one degree or another. And 30% are just unfuckable. (Caution: statistics have been pulled out of my rectum and may not be accurate.) The tricks are for those guys in the 60% who desperately want women to treat them like they treat the 10%. (The 30% probably want that too, but nothing is going to work for them, even by accident.)

I'm guessing that's not the only thing that's been pulled out of your rectum...

What else did you have in mind? Because I'm not sure how, exactly, you're trying to insult me with this. Some kind of homophobic slur is my best guess, but that seems pretty lame.

Let me clarify. Everything you've said is utter shit.

Very persuasive. I stand corrected.

I don't think anyone was trying to persuade you. Looks like they were straight up insulting you.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Women only seem to beat down the door for about 10% of the dudes. There are probably another 60% of us who are tolerable to one degree or another. And 30% are just unfuckable. (Caution: statistics have been pulled out of my rectum and may not be accurate.) The tricks are for those guys in the 60% who desperately want women to treat them like they treat the 10%. (The 30% probably want that too, but nothing is going to work for them, even by accident.)

I'm guessing that's not the only thing that's been pulled out of your rectum...

What else did you have in mind? Because I'm not sure how, exactly, you're trying to insult me with this. Some kind of homophobic slur is my best guess, but that seems pretty lame.

Let me clarify. Everything you've said is utter shit.

Mind sharing with us why you think it's utter shit?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:^These dumb men actually think that shit works.

So a guy may something like (for example) "your face is so beautiful even though your nose is a bit big", or whatever.

I love turning to them and being like "Was that a neg?"

And maybe following it up by asking which pick-up artist books they've read. I've read a couple, so I know all the tricks.

I love how you phrased that.

You left the comma out of the quotes and put the question mark inside though

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Okay all you PUA guys, what do you do if you don't want just a friend and also don't want just a one night stand? Would you neg a woman you wanted to date, or get to know better? Why the rush to have sex by the third date

Yes, of course we would. The goal is sex. Anyway, you just dangle the carrot of long-term relationship in front of them, fuck them for a month or so, and then never talk to them again. It's really quite simple.

Are you fourteen? You seem to have entirely misunderstood my question.

I did not ask how you get women to bed.

I asked how you would conduct yourself with a woman you did want to talk to again, someone who made you feel happy, safe, capable. Would you still insult and "fuck" those women? Or is the idea of a long term relationship abhorrent to you generally?

Do you have any appreciation for what a good woman can do for your life? And vice versa?

Depends, there are two sort of related tracks a relationship can go down, the "very serious, leading to marriage or extreme long-term cohabitation" track and the "happy to kill time with this woman, and will gladly have her move in so he has a maid and has sex" track.

If you want to see them again, then you'd make the carrot a reality and disengage if she starts getting lazy/comfortable but expecting "new relationship" quality of attention. You might delay the initiation of full sex as well as there's a set of women happy to give it up quickly for a guy they don't really like but content to make a guy they claim to like wait for a longer period.

Presumably you keep your roving eye at rest or if it's a girl you're happy to kill time with but don't really want to be serious about, you wait until she goes out of town and avoid hitting on her friends (first).

If a woman's into a guy (both in having sufficient initial attraction and in liking how the relationship is going) the initial neg won't matter provided the guy can avoid making little digs over the course of the relationship. If he can't then the relationship is doomed.

I suspect at least some of the PUA artists would have a section devoted to the obtaining and maintaining of relationships, but without that initial spark/chemistry, the obtaining bit is hard to do.

I have also noticed many women get extremely uncomfortable about the dissection of the art and science of the obtaining and maintaining of relationships. Apparently, it's just supposed to happen. (Granted, for the 16-30 y/o women it does just happen.)

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:negging works if you are attractive and you are in college.

I've seen it work too much.

Keep dreaming...

Negging is astoundingly effective at getting sleazy douchebags hooked up with damaged women who hate themselves.

Well, it's not like they weren't going to end up together anyway

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:^These dumb men actually think that shit works.

So a guy may something like (for example) "your face is so beautiful even though your nose is a bit big", or whatever.

I love turning to them and being like "Was that a neg?"

And maybe following it up by asking which pick-up artist books they've read. I've read a couple, so I know all the tricks.

I love how you phrased that.

You left the comma out of the quotes and put the question mark inside though

I'd like to think the PUA folks have strategeries on how to deal with "smarks" (smart marks) who can identify their strategies. On the other hand I suspect that <10% of women (and an equally small share of men) are really aware of the PUA "movement" and techniques.

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Anonymous wrote:Right. Up until now, this whole PSA thing was a meaningful dialog, a true "public service".
But now I've come and unhinged a perfectly good thread.

You haven't unhinged the thread... You yourself are unhinged.

Do you get it now?

PP was mocking your "unhinged" comment, not misunderstanding it.

If that was "mockery", then I guess anything can qualify these days. I would hate to see his attempt at a genuine joke...

NP here. You are the one sounding unhinged