UVA vs GMU

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Anonymous wrote:I've heard GMU has a really strong Computer Science program.

My son is in it. Fantastic. And they are committed to working with local industry to help your kid get a job. Hope it remains a sleeper school!!

No worries about that. It's been sleeping since day one and will remain unknown outside of the Fairfax area.

Good - I'm glad for that. I guess though someone ought to tell all the international students and the out-of-state students.

Yes, indeed, did you know that international and OOS now comprise 50% of the classes at most VA universities? DS is at GMU (and for the moron calling it a commuter school, please tell me where the 35,000 parking places are located because I need one of them). DD who visited VA Tech Engineering today was told the next class will be 50% international and OSS and only 50% seats for virginians. There was an audible gasp in the room

Because state schools need full freight international credentialists to subsidize grants, etc., for in-state students.

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Anonymous wrote:The few people I've know like a certain....lifestyle. One has gone to be very successful (law school, etc.). The rest are all comfortable. They all have a "beachy" lifestyle. Beachy isn't exactly the right word, but they all now live in sunny areas, have flashy cars and/or boats, know the "right" people, have wives who wear skimpy clothes, etc.

That is just a small sample, of course, but that is my experience. They all graduated 15-20 years ago. The guy from my HS (who ended up very successful) was reasonably bright - approx top 25% - but not an academic superstar.

Sorry - wrong thread! LOL! Definitely don't know anyone from GMU like this. Maybe a few from UVA.


I was reading this and thinking "WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?" Thanks for clarification. Gave me a laugh - got hard-working kids at both UVA and GMU.

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Anonymous wrote:As someone from outside of NOVA, I thought I'd just chime in to say that GMU is not well-known outside of NOVA. It's basically UVA, VaTech and W&M.

Would you recommend someone attend a CalState over UCLA? That's basically the equivalent of what is being suggested here.

Unless it's much more affordable, I don't see how choosing GMU over UVA makes sense.

That being said, a computer science degree from basically anywhere will get you a job these days. So, if it's a question of going into debt for UVA vs a big scholarship at GMU, maybe GMU makes sense.

Incorrect. California has a three tier system - the U.C. schools, the Cal State Schools (which are supposed to be more tech. and locally oriented for skill-sets) and the community college system, formerly called junior colleges. VA has only a two-tier system - the four year universities all funded by the state (except for UVA), and the community colleges, also funded by the state. There is no equivalent to the Cal STate system in Virginia.

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Anonymous wrote:As someone from outside of NOVA, I thought I'd just chime in to say that GMU is not well-known outside of NOVA. It's basically UVA, VaTech and W&M.

Would you recommend someone attend a CalState over UCLA? That's basically the equivalent of what is being suggested here.

Unless it's much more affordable, I don't see how choosing GMU over UVA makes sense.

That being said, a computer science degree from basically anywhere will get you a job these days. So, if it's a question of going into debt for UVA vs a big scholarship at GMU, maybe GMU makes sense.

Incorrect. California has a three tier system - the U.C. schools, the Cal State Schools (which are supposed to be more tech. and locally oriented for skill-sets) and the community college system, formerly called junior colleges. VA has only a two-tier system - the four year universities all funded by the state (except for UVA), and the community colleges, also funded by the state. There is no equivalent to the Cal STate system in Virginia.

What do you mean by "except for UVA"?

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Anonymous wrote:Computer Science is huge at GMU. http://cs.gmu.edu/. Serious Game Design as well. You have to be accepted into the programs, however, because they are in such demand. Game Design applicants must submit portfolios. The departments meet monthly with the Dulles corridor hi-tech companies to work with them to handle contracts (some students are paid to work on them) and to assess need. The average graduate in computer science makes more than the average UVA and William and Mary graduate (per President Cabrera). The internaitonal student body is immense, as are out-of-state students. Fourteen admissions counselors handle the international students alone. 35,000 students attend, 1/3 of which are Doct. or Masters' candidates. 12,750 live on campus and the construction there never ends. Please go visit and read up on what's in your own backyard. It's an astonishing institution that the state legislature has pumped millions into. Facilities are new and state-of-the art. The engineering schools are also well regarded. And Mason just opened its North Korean campus last year.

Please remove your post, my kids will be applying there in a couple of years.

. Good luck by then. We got one into GMU and are aiming another at UVA and Va Tech, but if the OOS and International rates keep rising there may be so few Virginia seats left that you may not want to even bother applying.

Their average SAT is like 1070, calm down. VCU is harder to get into.

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Anonymous wrote:As someone from outside of NOVA, I thought I'd just chime in to say that GMU is not well-known outside of NOVA. It's basically UVA, VaTech and W&M.

Would you recommend someone attend a CalState over UCLA? That's basically the equivalent of what is being suggested here.

Unless it's much more affordable, I don't see how choosing GMU over UVA makes sense.

That being said, a computer science degree from basically anywhere will get you a job these days. So, if it's a question of going into debt for UVA vs a big scholarship at GMU, maybe GMU makes sense.

Incorrect. California has a three tier system - the U.C. schools, the Cal State Schools (which are supposed to be more tech. and locally oriented for skill-sets) and the community college system, formerly called junior colleges. VA has only a two-tier system - the four year universities all funded by the state (except for UVA), and the community colleges, also funded by the state. There is no equivalent to the Cal STate system in Virginia.

What do you mean by "except for UVA"?

UVA has sufficient endowment now to run itself now, so does not receive funding from the state of Virginia.

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The President of GMU, Angel Cabrera, has stated that the GMU grads make more money than the UVA and William & Mary grads, and this slightly dated study from the Wash. Posts supports him. http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/education/new-data-tells-what-a-virginia-college-degree-is-worth/2012/10/04/007f0b42-0e28-11e2-bd1a-b868e65d57eb_story.html/ Signed happy parent with son at GMU who lives in dorms and has put up (with good cheer) all the never-ending construction that is going on.

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I'm pretty sure my plumber makes more money than me...

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Anonymous wrote:As someone from outside of NOVA, I thought I'd just chime in to say that GMU is not well-known outside of NOVA. It's basically UVA, VaTech and W&M.

Would you recommend someone attend a CalState over UCLA? That's basically the equivalent of what is being suggested here.

Unless it's much more affordable, I don't see how choosing GMU over UVA makes sense.

That being said, a computer science degree from basically anywhere will get you a job these days. So, if it's a question of going into debt for UVA vs a big scholarship at GMU, maybe GMU makes sense.

Incorrect. California has a three tier system - the U.C. schools, the Cal State Schools (which are supposed to be more tech. and locally oriented for skill-sets) and the community college system, formerly called junior colleges. VA has only a two-tier system - the four year universities all funded by the state (except for UVA), and the community colleges, also funded by the state. There is no equivalent to the Cal STate system in Virginia.

What do you mean by "except for UVA"?

UVA has sufficient endowment now to run itself now, so does not receive funding from the state of Virginia.

No funding at all? That's odd if a state school...doesn't receive funding from the state.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm pretty sure my plumber makes more money than me...

Women's studies major at Wellesley were you?

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Anonymous wrote:As someone from outside of NOVA, I thought I'd just chime in to say that GMU is not well-known outside of NOVA. It's basically UVA, VaTech and W&M.

Would you recommend someone attend a CalState over UCLA? That's basically the equivalent of what is being suggested here.

Unless it's much more affordable, I don't see how choosing GMU over UVA makes sense.

That being said, a computer science degree from basically anywhere will get you a job these days. So, if it's a question of going into debt for UVA vs a big scholarship at GMU, maybe GMU makes sense.

Incorrect. California has a three tier system - the U.C. schools, the Cal State Schools (which are supposed to be more tech. and locally oriented for skill-sets) and the community college system, formerly called junior colleges. VA has only a two-tier system - the four year universities all funded by the state (except for UVA), and the community colleges, also funded by the state. There is no equivalent to the Cal STate system in Virginia.

What do you mean by "except for UVA"?

UVA has sufficient endowment now to run itself now, so does not receive funding from the state of Virginia.

Link please

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Anonymous wrote:I'm pretty sure my plumber makes more money than me...

Women's studies major at Wellesley were you?

Master of Public Policy from Harvard Kennedy. Now at a non-profit.

Wouldn't change a thing. I'm happy. My plumber is happy. Something for everyone.

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Anonymous wrote:As someone from outside of NOVA, I thought I'd just chime in to say that GMU is not well-known outside of NOVA. It's basically UVA, VaTech and W&M.

Would you recommend someone attend a CalState over UCLA? That's basically the equivalent of what is being suggested here.

Unless it's much more affordable, I don't see how choosing GMU over UVA makes sense.

That being said, a computer science degree from basically anywhere will get you a job these days. So, if it's a question of going into debt for UVA vs a big scholarship at GMU, maybe GMU makes sense.

Incorrect. California has a three tier system - the U.C. schools, the Cal State Schools (which are supposed to be more tech. and locally oriented for skill-sets) and the community college system, formerly called junior colleges. VA has only a two-tier system - the four year universities all funded by the state (except for UVA), and the community colleges, also funded by the state. There is no equivalent to the Cal STate system in Virginia.

What do you mean by "except for UVA"?

UVA has sufficient endowment now to run itself now, so does not receive funding from the state of Virginia.

According to its published budget is still receives money from the commonwealth of Virginia. http://www.virginia.edu/bov/meetings/14Jun/Budget%20Summary%20-%202014-15%20Final%20for%20BOV_V2.pdf

Scroll down to page 6 of the report.

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Anonymous wrote:The President of GMU, Angel Cabrera, has stated that the GMU grads make more money than the UVA and William & Mary grads, and this slightly dated study from the Wash. Posts supports him. http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/education/new-data-tells-what-a-virginia-college-degree-is-worth/2012/10/04/007f0b42-0e28-11e2-bd1a-b868e65d57eb_story.html/ Signed happy parent with son at GMU who lives in dorms and has put up (with good cheer) all the never-ending construction that is going on.

Strayer grads have a higher salary according to that report...

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:As someone from outside of NOVA, I thought I'd just chime in to say that GMU is not well-known outside of NOVA. It's basically UVA, VaTech and W&M.

Would you recommend someone attend a CalState over UCLA? That's basically the equivalent of what is being suggested here.

Unless it's much more affordable, I don't see how choosing GMU over UVA makes sense.

That being said, a computer science degree from basically anywhere will get you a job these days. So, if it's a question of going into debt for UVA vs a big scholarship at GMU, maybe GMU makes sense.

Incorrect. California has a three tier system - the U.C. schools, the Cal State Schools (which are supposed to be more tech. and locally oriented for skill-sets) and the community college system, formerly called junior colleges. VA has only a two-tier system - the four year universities all funded by the state (except for UVA), and the community colleges, also funded by the state. There is no equivalent to the Cal STate system in Virginia.

What do you mean by "except for UVA"?

UVA has sufficient endowment now to run itself now, so does not receive funding from the state of Virginia.

According to its published budget is still receives money from the commonwealth of Virginia. http://www.virginia.edu/bov/meetings/14Jun/Budget%20Summary%20-%202014-15%20Final%20for%20BOV_V2.pdf

Scroll down to page 6 of the report.

Read and learn. http://www.virginia.edu/resourcingthemission/faq.html