Clueless kids on bus

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DCUM doesn't represent the real world, you know.

Most relevant statement for this entire thread.

Indeed, although the irony may be lost on 7:00.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So my 3rd grade DD in AAP came home today and said that she had the distinct pleasure (not) of getting yelled at by this much larger 6th grade boy in the AAP program who is a safety patrol on the bus. He was mad at them because he heard them discussing the differences between AAP and GenEd classes with another 3rd grader.

She was really upset because the boy wasn't part of the conversation, but interrupted them. The girl in the GenEd class had been telling them repeatedly that there was no difference between GenEd classes and AAP classes and that she was just as smart as they were, if not smarter. When they explained that the AAP classes are for the more academically advanced kids, the boy ordered them to stop talking and "bullying" the other girl.

My DD is just a 3rd grader, and she'd never had such a discussion with another student before, and she certainly never had been loudly reprimanded by a 6th grade patrol leader before. Now she is scared of the boy and doesn't want to get on the bus again. She wanted to know if he was going to report her to school administrators and why she did anything wrong telling the GenEd student that the more advanced kids had been selected for AAP.

Parents of GenEd kids: please stop telling your kids they are "just as smart" as the others. They will parrot this BS back, even if you think they won't, just leading to arguments that aren't very productive.

School counselors: if you happen to be reading this, please sit down with the GenEd classes at your school and make sure these kids know that there is nothing wrong about being in either a GenEd or an AAP class. And please ask the administration to remind safety patrols that they are there to help maintain order, not take sides on behalf of GenEd students or police what younger children say to one another about how kids are selected for AAP.

FCPS: please don't bend to the pressure to do away with centers or drastically cut back AAP admittance. You would be doing our communities a disservice by pretending that all the kids have exactly the same academic needs or abilities.

OP here. So many things to address here, where to start... First of all, in your entirely unimaginative copy and paste effort, you changed a few key points, bolded above. In the scenario that actually happened, the two girls weren't having a lovely discussion about "the differences between AAP and Gen Ed classes". Nice try, but these two girls were telling the third girl that she wasn't smart enough to be in AAP. Nothing nice about that. They didn't sweetly "explain that the AAP classes are for the more academically advanced classes". If you don't categorize that as bullying, then quite frankly, there is something wrong with you.

And yes, safety patrols are there to "help maintain order". Seeing two kids picking on another and intervening on behalf of the child being bullied is maintaining order. That's one of the things they're taught to do. If the kids had been picking on a child for any other reason, the safety patrols would hopefully have intervened in much the same way. Hopefully it's not your kid being treated this way one of these days. It would be such a shame if the patrol chose to ignore what was going on, wouldn't it? And I'm sure you'd march on down to the school to make the case that someone should have done something.

Again, you weren't there. Unless, of course, you're just the author of a fiction, in which case you can supply however many additional details you'd like and I apologize for not having bought the Cliff Notes sooner.

I don't think it's "bullying" for AAP kids to tell another kid she isn't "smart enough" to be in AAP. I wouldn't necessarily agree with it - AAP testing measures only certain abilities at a particular point in time - but I totally reject your rather transparent effort to create and/or massage a narrative simply because you don't like the fact that FCPS has determined that some kids, and not others, are eligible for AAP programs.

And, if an older patrol told a younger student to stop "bullying" another student in this scenario AND I was the parent of that student AND she felt intimidated by the older student as a result, I might very well march down to the school to complain about the older student's (i.e., your son's) behavior. He can certainly suggest that other kids should be kind to one another, but if he thinks it's his job to boss around younger kids and enforce his own (or, more accurately, your) rules of social interactions, we might have a problem.

Whatever. Guess you won't have a problem when my kid tells your kid she's fat and slow and that's why she's never picked to be on a team. And, my kid is smarter, better looking, and more fit and athletic than yours. Just so you know all are true no doubt. My kid is in level iv AAP, wrote an app, started a nonprofit foundation, is gorgeous so does modeling for Hannah Johnson clothing line and Ralph Lauren, and is awesome at sports!! She's 10 by the way. So I guess it's not bullying to just point out the obvious to your kid and tell them how inferior they are to my kid. All to affirm my kid's superiority intellectually, athletically, and physically. You may not agree with the truth but there it is. My kid is better than yours. She knows it, other kids know it, I know it and now you know it. Truthfully, all that is true about my kid. But, the most important difference between my kid and yours is that I'm not raising her to be an arrogant byytch. She would have stood up for the Gen.ED kid. That's just how she is. See, Apple doesn't fall far from the tree. So guess we are just both better than you and you inferior kid. Truth hurts?? Too bad. I'm not bullying you at all. Just telling you how it is. So, if you can't take it, then don't dish it out.

[Anonymous]

Well, just wait until those arrogant kids do not get into TJ. They go to high school feeling like failures.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Well, just wait until those arrogant kids do not get into TJ. They go to high school feeling like failures.

That's messed up, pp. Try to be an adult.

[Anonymous]

Digging up a 7 month old thread for this crud? Really?!!?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So my 3rd grade DD in AAP came home today and said that she had the distinct pleasure (not) of getting yelled at by this much larger 6th grade boy in the AAP program who is a safety patrol on the bus. He was mad at them because he heard them discussing the differences between AAP and GenEd classes with another 3rd grader.

She was really upset because the boy wasn't part of the conversation, but interrupted them. The girl in the GenEd class had been telling them repeatedly that there was no difference between GenEd classes and AAP classes and that she was just as smart as they were, if not smarter. When they explained that the AAP classes are for the more academically advanced kids, the boy ordered them to stop talking and "bullying" the other girl.

My DD is just a 3rd grader, and she'd never had such a discussion with another student before, and she certainly never had been loudly reprimanded by a 6th grade patrol leader before. Now she is scared of the boy and doesn't want to get on the bus again. She wanted to know if he was going to report her to school administrators and why she did anything wrong telling the GenEd student that the more advanced kids had been selected for AAP.

Parents of GenEd kids: please stop telling your kids they are "just as smart" as the others. They will parrot this BS back, even if you think they won't, just leading to arguments that aren't very productive.

School counselors: if you happen to be reading this, please sit down with the GenEd classes at your school and make sure these kids know that there is nothing wrong about being in either a GenEd or an AAP class. And please ask the administration to remind safety patrols that they are there to help maintain order, not take sides on behalf of GenEd students or police what younger children say to one another about how kids are selected for AAP.

FCPS: please don't bend to the pressure to do away with centers or drastically cut back AAP admittance. You would be doing our communities a disservice by pretending that all the kids have exactly the same academic needs or abilities.

OP here. So many things to address here, where to start... First of all, in your entirely unimaginative copy and paste effort, you changed a few key points, bolded above. In the scenario that actually happened, the two girls weren't having a lovely discussion about "the differences between AAP and Gen Ed classes". Nice try, but these two girls were telling the third girl that she wasn't smart enough to be in AAP. Nothing nice about that. They didn't sweetly "explain that the AAP classes are for the more academically advanced classes". If you don't categorize that as bullying, then quite frankly, there is something wrong with you.

And yes, safety patrols are there to "help maintain order". Seeing two kids picking on another and intervening on behalf of the child being bullied is maintaining order. That's one of the things they're taught to do. If the kids had been picking on a child for any other reason, the safety patrols would hopefully have intervened in much the same way. Hopefully it's not your kid being treated this way one of these days. It would be such a shame if the patrol chose to ignore what was going on, wouldn't it? And I'm sure you'd march on down to the school to make the case that someone should have done something.

Again, you weren't there. Unless, of course, you're just the author of a fiction, in which case you can supply however many additional details you'd like and I apologize for not having bought the Cliff Notes sooner.

I don't think it's "bullying" for AAP kids to tell another kid she isn't "smart enough" to be in AAP. I wouldn't necessarily agree with it - AAP testing measures only certain abilities at a particular point in time - but I totally reject your rather transparent effort to create and/or massage a narrative simply because you don't like the fact that FCPS has determined that some kids, and not others, are eligible for AAP programs.

And, if an older patrol told a younger student to stop "bullying" another student in this scenario AND I was the parent of that student AND she felt intimidated by the older student as a result, I might very well march down to the school to complain about the older student's (i.e., your son's) behavior. He can certainly suggest that other kids should be kind to one another, but if he thinks it's his job to boss around younger kids and enforce his own (or, more accurately, your) rules of social interactions, we might have a problem.

Whatever. Guess you won't have a problem when my kid tells your kid she's fat and slow and that's why she's never picked to be on a team. And, my kid is smarter, better looking, and more fit and athletic than yours. Just so you know all are true no doubt. My kid is in level iv AAP, wrote an app, started a nonprofit foundation, is gorgeous so does modeling for Hannah Johnson clothing line and Ralph Lauren, and is awesome at sports!! She's 10 by the way. So I guess it's not bullying to just point out the obvious to your kid and tell them how inferior they are to my kid. All to affirm my kid's superiority intellectually, athletically, and physically. You may not agree with the truth but there it is. My kid is better than yours. She knows it, other kids know it, I know it and now you know it. Truthfully, all that is true about my kid. But, the most important difference between my kid and yours is that I'm not raising her to be an arrogant byytch. She would have stood up for the Gen.ED kid. That's just how she is. See, Apple doesn't fall far from the tree. So guess we are just both better than you and you inferior kid. Truth hurts?? Too bad. I'm not bullying you at all. Just telling you how it is. So, if you can't take it, then don't dish it out.

You sound more tham a bit unhinged.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So my 3rd grade DD in AAP came home today and said that she had the distinct pleasure (not) of getting yelled at by this much larger 6th grade boy in the AAP program who is a safety patrol on the bus. He was mad at them because he heard them discussing the differences between AAP and GenEd classes with another 3rd grader.

She was really upset because the boy wasn't part of the conversation, but interrupted them. The girl in the GenEd class had been telling them repeatedly that there was no difference between GenEd classes and AAP classes and that she was just as smart as they were, if not smarter. When they explained that the AAP classes are for the more academically advanced kids, the boy ordered them to stop talking and "bullying" the other girl.

My DD is just a 3rd grader, and she'd never had such a discussion with another student before, and she certainly never had been loudly reprimanded by a 6th grade patrol leader before. Now she is scared of the boy and doesn't want to get on the bus again. She wanted to know if he was going to report her to school administrators and why she did anything wrong telling the GenEd student that the more advanced kids had been selected for AAP.

Parents of GenEd kids: please stop telling your kids they are "just as smart" as the others. They will parrot this BS back, even if you think they won't, just leading to arguments that aren't very productive.

School counselors: if you happen to be reading this, please sit down with the GenEd classes at your school and make sure these kids know that there is nothing wrong about being in either a GenEd or an AAP class. And please ask the administration to remind safety patrols that they are there to help maintain order, not take sides on behalf of GenEd students or police what younger children say to one another about how kids are selected for AAP.

FCPS: please don't bend to the pressure to do away with centers or drastically cut back AAP admittance. You would be doing our communities a disservice by pretending that all the kids have exactly the same academic needs or abilities.

OP here. So many things to address here, where to start... First of all, in your entirely unimaginative copy and paste effort, you changed a few key points, bolded above. In the scenario that actually happened, the two girls weren't having a lovely discussion about "the differences between AAP and Gen Ed classes". Nice try, but these two girls were telling the third girl that she wasn't smart enough to be in AAP. Nothing nice about that. They didn't sweetly "explain that the AAP classes are for the more academically advanced classes". If you don't categorize that as bullying, then quite frankly, there is something wrong with you.

And yes, safety patrols are there to "help maintain order". Seeing two kids picking on another and intervening on behalf of the child being bullied is maintaining order. That's one of the things they're taught to do. If the kids had been picking on a child for any other reason, the safety patrols would hopefully have intervened in much the same way. Hopefully it's not your kid being treated this way one of these days. It would be such a shame if the patrol chose to ignore what was going on, wouldn't it? And I'm sure you'd march on down to the school to make the case that someone should have done something.

Again, you weren't there. Unless, of course, you're just the author of a fiction, in which case you can supply however many additional details you'd like and I apologize for not having bought the Cliff Notes sooner.

I don't think it's "bullying" for AAP kids to tell another kid she isn't "smart enough" to be in AAP. I wouldn't necessarily agree with it - AAP testing measures only certain abilities at a particular point in time - but I totally reject your rather transparent effort to create and/or massage a narrative simply because you don't like the fact that FCPS has determined that some kids, and not others, are eligible for AAP programs.

And, if an older patrol told a younger student to stop "bullying" another student in this scenario AND I was the parent of that student AND she felt intimidated by the older student as a result, I might very well march down to the school to complain about the older student's (i.e., your son's) behavior. He can certainly suggest that other kids should be kind to one another, but if he thinks it's his job to boss around younger kids and enforce his own (or, more accurately, your) rules of social interactions, we might have a problem.

Whatever. Guess you won't have a problem when my kid tells your kid she's fat and slow and that's why she's never picked to be on a team. And, my kid is smarter, better looking, and more fit and athletic than yours. Just so you know all are true no doubt. My kid is in level iv AAP, wrote an app, started a nonprofit foundation, is gorgeous so does modeling for Hannah Johnson clothing line and Ralph Lauren, and is awesome at sports!! She's 10 by the way. So I guess it's not bullying to just point out the obvious to your kid and tell them how inferior they are to my kid. All to affirm my kid's superiority intellectually, athletically, and physically. You may not agree with the truth but there it is. My kid is better than yours. She knows it, other kids know it, I know it and now you know it. Truthfully, all that is true about my kid. But, the most important difference between my kid and yours is that I'm not raising her to be an arrogant byytch. She would have stood up for the Gen.ED kid. That's just how she is. See, Apple doesn't fall far from the tree. So guess we are just both better than you and you inferior kid. Truth hurts?? Too bad. I'm not bullying you at all. Just telling you how it is. So, if you can't take it, then don't dish it out.

You sound more tham a bit unhinged.

She may be exaggerating a bit to prove a point, but she's exactly right. The person posting before her arrogantly stated that it's "not bullying" for one child to tell another they "aren't smart enough to be in AAP". If that type of remark is acceptable to her, than she'd better be prepared for equally ugly remarks to be said to her own little snowflake. And for no one to stick up for her when it happens. It's called karma.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So my 3rd grade DD in AAP came home today and said that she had the distinct pleasure (not) of getting yelled at by this much larger 6th grade boy in the AAP program who is a safety patrol on the bus. He was mad at them because he heard them discussing the differences between AAP and GenEd classes with another 3rd grader.

She was really upset because the boy wasn't part of the conversation, but interrupted them. The girl in the GenEd class had been telling them repeatedly that there was no difference between GenEd classes and AAP classes and that she was just as smart as they were, if not smarter. When they explained that the AAP classes are for the more academically advanced kids, the boy ordered them to stop talking and "bullying" the other girl.

My DD is just a 3rd grader, and she'd never had such a discussion with another student before, and she certainly never had been loudly reprimanded by a 6th grade patrol leader before. Now she is scared of the boy and doesn't want to get on the bus again. She wanted to know if he was going to report her to school administrators and why she did anything wrong telling the GenEd student that the more advanced kids had been selected for AAP.

Parents of GenEd kids: please stop telling your kids they are "just as smart" as the others. They will parrot this BS back, even if you think they won't, just leading to arguments that aren't very productive.

School counselors: if you happen to be reading this, please sit down with the GenEd classes at your school and make sure these kids know that there is nothing wrong about being in either a GenEd or an AAP class. And please ask the administration to remind safety patrols that they are there to help maintain order, not take sides on behalf of GenEd students or police what younger children say to one another about how kids are selected for AAP.

FCPS: please don't bend to the pressure to do away with centers or drastically cut back AAP admittance. You would be doing our communities a disservice by pretending that all the kids have exactly the same academic needs or abilities.

OP here. So many things to address here, where to start... First of all, in your entirely unimaginative copy and paste effort, you changed a few key points, bolded above. In the scenario that actually happened, the two girls weren't having a lovely discussion about "the differences between AAP and Gen Ed classes". Nice try, but these two girls were telling the third girl that she wasn't smart enough to be in AAP. Nothing nice about that. They didn't sweetly "explain that the AAP classes are for the more academically advanced classes". If you don't categorize that as bullying, then quite frankly, there is something wrong with you.

And yes, safety patrols are there to "help maintain order". Seeing two kids picking on another and intervening on behalf of the child being bullied is maintaining order. That's one of the things they're taught to do. If the kids had been picking on a child for any other reason, the safety patrols would hopefully have intervened in much the same way. Hopefully it's not your kid being treated this way one of these days. It would be such a shame if the patrol chose to ignore what was going on, wouldn't it? And I'm sure you'd march on down to the school to make the case that someone should have done something.

Again, you weren't there. Unless, of course, you're just the author of a fiction, in which case you can supply however many additional details you'd like and I apologize for not having bought the Cliff Notes sooner.

I don't think it's "bullying" for AAP kids to tell another kid she isn't "smart enough" to be in AAP. I wouldn't necessarily agree with it - AAP testing measures only certain abilities at a particular point in time - but I totally reject your rather transparent effort to create and/or massage a narrative simply because you don't like the fact that FCPS has determined that some kids, and not others, are eligible for AAP programs.

And, if an older patrol told a younger student to stop "bullying" another student in this scenario AND I was the parent of that student AND she felt intimidated by the older student as a result, I might very well march down to the school to complain about the older student's (i.e., your son's) behavior. He can certainly suggest that other kids should be kind to one another, but if he thinks it's his job to boss around younger kids and enforce his own (or, more accurately, your) rules of social interactions, we might have a problem.

Jesus frickin' Christ. THIS type of parent right here is exactly why it is impossible for the schools to overcome the bullying problem. Right here. It's the parents telling them what they did was fine and bitching in the principal's office about their little bully snowflake being reprimanded for it. The fact that you, an adult who is supposed to be teaching your children the kind of things they can think but not say, thinks this it is fine for one child to make the statement to another child that she's not smart enough to be in AAP is so appalling I'm reeling. Wow.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So my 3rd grade DD in AAP came home today and said that she had the distinct pleasure (not) of getting yelled at by this much larger 6th grade boy in the AAP program who is a safety patrol on the bus. He was mad at them because he heard them discussing the differences between AAP and GenEd classes with another 3rd grader.

She was really upset because the boy wasn't part of the conversation, but interrupted them. The girl in the GenEd class had been telling them repeatedly that there was no difference between GenEd classes and AAP classes and that she was just as smart as they were, if not smarter. When they explained that the AAP classes are for the more academically advanced kids, the boy ordered them to stop talking and "bullying" the other girl.

My DD is just a 3rd grader, and she'd never had such a discussion with another student before, and she certainly never had been loudly reprimanded by a 6th grade patrol leader before. Now she is scared of the boy and doesn't want to get on the bus again. She wanted to know if he was going to report her to school administrators and why she did anything wrong telling the GenEd student that the more advanced kids had been selected for AAP.

Parents of GenEd kids: please stop telling your kids they are "just as smart" as the others. They will parrot this BS back, even if you think they won't, just leading to arguments that aren't very productive.

School counselors: if you happen to be reading this, please sit down with the GenEd classes at your school and make sure these kids know that there is nothing wrong about being in either a GenEd or an AAP class. And please ask the administration to remind safety patrols that they are there to help maintain order, not take sides on behalf of GenEd students or police what younger children say to one another about how kids are selected for AAP.

FCPS: please don't bend to the pressure to do away with centers or drastically cut back AAP admittance. You would be doing our communities a disservice by pretending that all the kids have exactly the same academic needs or abilities.

OP here. So many things to address here, where to start... First of all, in your entirely unimaginative copy and paste effort, you changed a few key points, bolded above. In the scenario that actually happened, the two girls weren't having a lovely discussion about "the differences between AAP and Gen Ed classes". Nice try, but these two girls were telling the third girl that she wasn't smart enough to be in AAP. Nothing nice about that. They didn't sweetly "explain that the AAP classes are for the more academically advanced classes". If you don't categorize that as bullying, then quite frankly, there is something wrong with you.

And yes, safety patrols are there to "help maintain order". Seeing two kids picking on another and intervening on behalf of the child being bullied is maintaining order. That's one of the things they're taught to do. If the kids had been picking on a child for any other reason, the safety patrols would hopefully have intervened in much the same way. Hopefully it's not your kid being treated this way one of these days. It would be such a shame if the patrol chose to ignore what was going on, wouldn't it? And I'm sure you'd march on down to the school to make the case that someone should have done something.

Again, you weren't there. Unless, of course, you're just the author of a fiction, in which case you can supply however many additional details you'd like and I apologize for not having bought the Cliff Notes sooner.

I don't think it's "bullying" for AAP kids to tell another kid she isn't "smart enough" to be in AAP. I wouldn't necessarily agree with it - AAP testing measures only certain abilities at a particular point in time - but I totally reject your rather transparent effort to create and/or massage a narrative simply because you don't like the fact that FCPS has determined that some kids, and not others, are eligible for AAP programs.

And, if an older patrol told a younger student to stop "bullying" another student in this scenario AND I was the parent of that student AND she felt intimidated by the older student as a result, I might very well march down to the school to complain about the older student's (i.e., your son's) behavior. He can certainly suggest that other kids should be kind to one another, but if he thinks it's his job to boss around younger kids and enforce his own (or, more accurately, your) rules of social interactions, we might have a problem.

Jesus frickin' Christ. THIS type of parent right here is exactly why it is impossible for the schools to overcome the bullying problem. Right here. It's the parents telling them what they did was fine and bitching in the principal's office about their little bully snowflake being reprimanded for it. The fact that you, an adult who is supposed to be teaching your children the kind of things they can think but not say, thinks this it is fine for one child to make the statement to another child that she's not smart enough to be in AAP is so appalling I'm reeling. Wow.

Coincidence that the anti-AAP crowd comes out in force this time of year with phony/revived threads? I think not.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So my 3rd grade DD in AAP came home today and said that she had the distinct pleasure (not) of getting yelled at by this much larger 6th grade boy in the AAP program who is a safety patrol on the bus. He was mad at them because he heard them discussing the differences between AAP and GenEd classes with another 3rd grader.

She was really upset because the boy wasn't part of the conversation, but interrupted them. The girl in the GenEd class had been telling them repeatedly that there was no difference between GenEd classes and AAP classes and that she was just as smart as they were, if not smarter. When they explained that the AAP classes are for the more academically advanced kids, the boy ordered them to stop talking and "bullying" the other girl.

My DD is just a 3rd grader, and she'd never had such a discussion with another student before, and she certainly never had been loudly reprimanded by a 6th grade patrol leader before. Now she is scared of the boy and doesn't want to get on the bus again. She wanted to know if he was going to report her to school administrators and why she did anything wrong telling the GenEd student that the more advanced kids had been selected for AAP.

Parents of GenEd kids: please stop telling your kids they are "just as smart" as the others. They will parrot this BS back, even if you think they won't, just leading to arguments that aren't very productive.

School counselors: if you happen to be reading this, please sit down with the GenEd classes at your school and make sure these kids know that there is nothing wrong about being in either a GenEd or an AAP class. And please ask the administration to remind safety patrols that they are there to help maintain order, not take sides on behalf of GenEd students or police what younger children say to one another about how kids are selected for AAP.

FCPS: please don't bend to the pressure to do away with centers or drastically cut back AAP admittance. You would be doing our communities a disservice by pretending that all the kids have exactly the same academic needs or abilities.

OP here. So many things to address here, where to start... First of all, in your entirely unimaginative copy and paste effort, you changed a few key points, bolded above. In the scenario that actually happened, the two girls weren't having a lovely discussion about "the differences between AAP and Gen Ed classes". Nice try, but these two girls were telling the third girl that she wasn't smart enough to be in AAP. Nothing nice about that. They didn't sweetly "explain that the AAP classes are for the more academically advanced classes". If you don't categorize that as bullying, then quite frankly, there is something wrong with you.

And yes, safety patrols are there to "help maintain order". Seeing two kids picking on another and intervening on behalf of the child being bullied is maintaining order. That's one of the things they're taught to do. If the kids had been picking on a child for any other reason, the safety patrols would hopefully have intervened in much the same way. Hopefully it's not your kid being treated this way one of these days. It would be such a shame if the patrol chose to ignore what was going on, wouldn't it? And I'm sure you'd march on down to the school to make the case that someone should have done something.

Again, you weren't there. Unless, of course, you're just the author of a fiction, in which case you can supply however many additional details you'd like and I apologize for not having bought the Cliff Notes sooner.

I don't think it's "bullying" for AAP kids to tell another kid she isn't "smart enough" to be in AAP. I wouldn't necessarily agree with it - AAP testing measures only certain abilities at a particular point in time - but I totally reject your rather transparent effort to create and/or massage a narrative simply because you don't like the fact that FCPS has determined that some kids, and not others, are eligible for AAP programs.

And, if an older patrol told a younger student to stop "bullying" another student in this scenario AND I was the parent of that student AND she felt intimidated by the older student as a result, I might very well march down to the school to complain about the older student's (i.e., your son's) behavior. He can certainly suggest that other kids should be kind to one another, but if he thinks it's his job to boss around younger kids and enforce his own (or, more accurately, your) rules of social interactions, we might have a problem.

Jesus frickin' Christ. THIS type of parent right here is exactly why it is impossible for the schools to overcome the bullying problem. Right here. It's the parents telling them what they did was fine and bitching in the principal's office about their little bully snowflake being reprimanded for it. The fact that you, an adult who is supposed to be teaching your children the kind of things they can think but not say, thinks this it is fine for one child to make the statement to another child that she's not smart enough to be in AAP is so appalling I'm reeling. Wow.

Coincidence that the anti-AAP crowd comes out in force this time of year with phony/revived threads? I think not.

Godo point.

[Anonymous]

Who let the crazies out of the AAP looney bin forum? You know there is a reason why Jeff moved you all over there...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So my 3rd grade DD in AAP came home today and said that she had the distinct pleasure (not) of getting yelled at by this much larger 6th grade boy in the AAP program who is a safety patrol on the bus. He was mad at them because he heard them discussing the differences between AAP and GenEd classes with another 3rd grader.

She was really upset because the boy wasn't part of the conversation, but interrupted them. The girl in the GenEd class had been telling them repeatedly that there was no difference between GenEd classes and AAP classes and that she was just as smart as they were, if not smarter. When they explained that the AAP classes are for the more academically advanced kids, the boy ordered them to stop talking and "bullying" the other girl.

My DD is just a 3rd grader, and she'd never had such a discussion with another student before, and she certainly never had been loudly reprimanded by a 6th grade patrol leader before. Now she is scared of the boy and doesn't want to get on the bus again. She wanted to know if he was going to report her to school administrators and why she did anything wrong telling the GenEd student that the more advanced kids had been selected for AAP.

Parents of GenEd kids: please stop telling your kids they are "just as smart" as the others. They will parrot this BS back, even if you think they won't, just leading to arguments that aren't very productive.

School counselors: if you happen to be reading this, please sit down with the GenEd classes at your school and make sure these kids know that there is nothing wrong about being in either a GenEd or an AAP class. And please ask the administration to remind safety patrols that they are there to help maintain order, not take sides on behalf of GenEd students or police what younger children say to one another about how kids are selected for AAP.

FCPS: please don't bend to the pressure to do away with centers or drastically cut back AAP admittance. You would be doing our communities a disservice by pretending that all the kids have exactly the same academic needs or abilities.

OP here. So many things to address here, where to start... First of all, in your entirely unimaginative copy and paste effort, you changed a few key points, bolded above. In the scenario that actually happened, the two girls weren't having a lovely discussion about "the differences between AAP and Gen Ed classes". Nice try, but these two girls were telling the third girl that she wasn't smart enough to be in AAP. Nothing nice about that. They didn't sweetly "explain that the AAP classes are for the more academically advanced classes". If you don't categorize that as bullying, then quite frankly, there is something wrong with you.

And yes, safety patrols are there to "help maintain order". Seeing two kids picking on another and intervening on behalf of the child being bullied is maintaining order. That's one of the things they're taught to do. If the kids had been picking on a child for any other reason, the safety patrols would hopefully have intervened in much the same way. Hopefully it's not your kid being treated this way one of these days. It would be such a shame if the patrol chose to ignore what was going on, wouldn't it? And I'm sure you'd march on down to the school to make the case that someone should have done something.

Again, you weren't there. Unless, of course, you're just the author of a fiction, in which case you can supply however many additional details you'd like and I apologize for not having bought the Cliff Notes sooner.

I don't think it's "bullying" for AAP kids to tell another kid she isn't "smart enough" to be in AAP. I wouldn't necessarily agree with it - AAP testing measures only certain abilities at a particular point in time - but I totally reject your rather transparent effort to create and/or massage a narrative simply because you don't like the fact that FCPS has determined that some kids, and not others, are eligible for AAP programs.

And, if an older patrol told a younger student to stop "bullying" another student in this scenario AND I was the parent of that student AND she felt intimidated by the older student as a result, I might very well march down to the school to complain about the older student's (i.e., your son's) behavior. He can certainly suggest that other kids should be kind to one another, but if he thinks it's his job to boss around younger kids and enforce his own (or, more accurately, your) rules of social interactions, we might have a problem.

Jesus frickin' Christ. THIS type of parent right here is exactly why it is impossible for the schools to overcome the bullying problem. Right here. It's the parents telling them what they did was fine and bitching in the principal's office about their little bully snowflake being reprimanded for it. The fact that you, an adult who is supposed to be teaching your children the kind of things they can think but not say, thinks this it is fine for one child to make the statement to another child that she's not smart enough to be in AAP is so appalling I'm reeling. Wow.

I agree completely.

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Anonymous wrote:So my 3rd grade DD in AAP came home today and said that she had the distinct pleasure (not) of getting yelled at by this much larger 6th grade boy in the AAP program who is a safety patrol on the bus. He was mad at them because he heard them discussing the differences between AAP and GenEd classes with another 3rd grader.

She was really upset because the boy wasn't part of the conversation, but interrupted them. The girl in the GenEd class had been telling them repeatedly that there was no difference between GenEd classes and AAP classes and that she was just as smart as they were, if not smarter. When they explained that the AAP classes are for the more academically advanced kids, the boy ordered them to stop talking and "bullying" the other girl.

My DD is just a 3rd grader, and she'd never had such a discussion with another student before, and she certainly never had been loudly reprimanded by a 6th grade patrol leader before. Now she is scared of the boy and doesn't want to get on the bus again. She wanted to know if he was going to report her to school administrators and why she did anything wrong telling the GenEd student that the more advanced kids had been selected for AAP.

Parents of GenEd kids: please stop telling your kids they are "just as smart" as the others. They will parrot this BS back, even if you think they won't, just leading to arguments that aren't very productive.

School counselors: if you happen to be reading this, please sit down with the GenEd classes at your school and make sure these kids know that there is nothing wrong about being in either a GenEd or an AAP class. And please ask the administration to remind safety patrols that they are there to help maintain order, not take sides on behalf of GenEd students or police what younger children say to one another about how kids are selected for AAP.

FCPS: please don't bend to the pressure to do away with centers or drastically cut back AAP admittance. You would be doing our communities a disservice by pretending that all the kids have exactly the same academic needs or abilities.

OP here. So many things to address here, where to start... First of all, in your entirely unimaginative copy and paste effort, you changed a few key points, bolded above. In the scenario that actually happened, the two girls weren't having a lovely discussion about "the differences between AAP and Gen Ed classes". Nice try, but these two girls were telling the third girl that she wasn't smart enough to be in AAP. Nothing nice about that. They didn't sweetly "explain that the AAP classes are for the more academically advanced classes". If you don't categorize that as bullying, then quite frankly, there is something wrong with you.

And yes, safety patrols are there to "help maintain order". Seeing two kids picking on another and intervening on behalf of the child being bullied is maintaining order. That's one of the things they're taught to do. If the kids had been picking on a child for any other reason, the safety patrols would hopefully have intervened in much the same way. Hopefully it's not your kid being treated this way one of these days. It would be such a shame if the patrol chose to ignore what was going on, wouldn't it? And I'm sure you'd march on down to the school to make the case that someone should have done something.

Again, you weren't there. Unless, of course, you're just the author of a fiction, in which case you can supply however many additional details you'd like and I apologize for not having bought the Cliff Notes sooner.

I don't think it's "bullying" for AAP kids to tell another kid she isn't "smart enough" to be in AAP. I wouldn't necessarily agree with it - AAP testing measures only certain abilities at a particular point in time - but I totally reject your rather transparent effort to create and/or massage a narrative simply because you don't like the fact that FCPS has determined that some kids, and not others, are eligible for AAP programs.

And, if an older patrol told a younger student to stop "bullying" another student in this scenario AND I was the parent of that student AND she felt intimidated by the older student as a result, I might very well march down to the school to complain about the older student's (i.e., your son's) behavior. He can certainly suggest that other kids should be kind to one another, but if he thinks it's his job to boss around younger kids and enforce his own (or, more accurately, your) rules of social interactions, we might have a problem.

Jesus frickin' Christ. THIS type of parent right here is exactly why it is impossible for the schools to overcome the bullying problem. Right here. It's the parents telling them what they did was fine and bitching in the principal's office about their little bully snowflake being reprimanded for it. The fact that you, an adult who is supposed to be teaching your children the kind of things they can think but not say, thinks this it is fine for one child to make the statement to another child that she's not smart enough to be in AAP is so appalling I'm reeling. Wow.

Coincidence that the anti-AAP crowd comes out in force this time of year with phony/revived threads? I think not.

Godo point.

Hmm. Perhaps these scenarios actually happen all the time, which is why they're relevant any time of year. Though nice effort, trying to dismiss what is a real problem. I suppose it's different when your child is the one bullied/mocked/made fun of, right?

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I actually went back and read the OP and either this was made-up or filtered through the OP's prism of extreme antagonism towards AAP children. Kids are kids, but what's her excuse? Sheesh.

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This isn't really about aap etc... Even if it's made up. It's about little kids being twats, and mommies and daddies who condone it.
Teach your kids to not be jerks. That's the rule. Doesn't matter if they are aap or gen Ed.

Besides- lets be real. I've worked with " aap" kids. Things have changed. They ain't GT, that's for sure...