TJ or Edison, which do you think would get your high achieiving kid into a better college?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Numbers in a Tj graduating class are more in the lower 400s, not 450.

Wrong. The graduating classes typically are around 450 students.

TJ graduating class is typically around 420 to 430.

The information is readily available, and your information is out of date.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It seems to me that there are just some people so hell bent on the idea that TJ is the be all and end all of education for their little prince or princess, no amount of logic is going to convince them that their prince or princess might actually have a better chance of being accepted to a competitive college is they sent them to a "lower" performing HS. They have drunk the TJ kool aid and can't get enough it. For those parents, I'd be curious as to where you actually went to college (and where you applied) to see if you actually have any first hand experience with competitive college admissions. And, for the record, I am the earlier poster that went to UC Berkeley, and subsequently an Ivy League law school and has a close friend who used to work in Yale admissions (after attending Yale and subsequently attending another Ivy League school).

I am also not suggesting, by any stretch of imagination, that a parent shouldn't send their kid to TJ to game the college admissions system. At the end of the day, challenge your kid as much as he or she wants to be challenged and let the chips fall where they may. Who cares whether they make it to the Ivy League, UVA, George Mason, or community college. Help them to succeed in the path best suited for them and put down the TJ kool aid.

+1.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It seems to me that there are just some people so hell bent on the idea that TJ is the be all and end all of education for their little prince or princess, no amount of logic is going to convince them that their prince or princess might actually have a better chance of being accepted to a competitive college is they sent them to a "lower" performing HS. They have drunk the TJ kool aid and can't get enough it. For those parents, I'd be curious as to where you actually went to college (and where you applied) to see if you actually have any first hand experience with competitive college admissions. And, for the record, I am the earlier poster that went to UC Berkeley, and subsequently an Ivy League law school and has a close friend who used to work in Yale admissions (after attending Yale and subsequently attending another Ivy League school).

I am also not suggesting, by any stretch of imagination, that a parent shouldn't send their kid to TJ to game the college admissions system. At the end of the day, challenge your kid as much as he or she wants to be challenged and let the chips fall where they may. Who cares whether they make it to the Ivy League, UVA, George Mason, or community college. Help them to succeed in the path best suited for them and put down the TJ kool aid.

Stop bragging about the UC Berkeley and "Ivy League Law School". Many TJ kids turn down UC Berkeley to attend UVA/William and Mary. In fact, many TJ kids turn down Ivy League schools to attend UVA/William and Mary. Also, most parents do not send their kids to TJ to game the college admissions system. If what you say is true, parents would not agree to send their kids to UVA or William and Mary after their kids are accepted to Ivy League schools or similar top schools. That defeats the purpose of "gaming the college admissions system". Parents send their kids to TJ to receive challenging education and to have opportunity to take courses/participate in research that are not available at other schools. Is that hard to understand?

+100

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It seems to me that there are just some people so hell bent on the idea that TJ is the be all and end all of education for their little prince or princess, no amount of logic is going to convince them that their prince or princess might actually have a better chance of being accepted to a competitive college is they sent them to a "lower" performing HS. They have drunk the TJ kool aid and can't get enough it. For those parents, I'd be curious as to where you actually went to college (and where you applied) to see if you actually have any first hand experience with competitive college admissions. And, for the record, I am the earlier poster that went to UC Berkeley, and subsequently an Ivy League law school and has a close friend who used to work in Yale admissions (after attending Yale and subsequently attending another Ivy League school).

I am also not suggesting, by any stretch of imagination, that a parent shouldn't send their kid to TJ to game the college admissions system. At the end of the day, challenge your kid as much as he or she wants to be challenged and let the chips fall where they may. Who cares whether they make it to the Ivy League, UVA, George Mason, or community college. Help them to succeed in the path best suited for them and put down the TJ kool aid.

Stop bragging about the UC Berkeley and "Ivy League Law School". Many TJ kids turn down UC Berkeley to attend UVA/William and Mary. In fact, many TJ kids turn down Ivy League schools to attend UVA/William and Mary. Also, most parents do not send their kids to TJ to game the college admissions system. If what you say is true, parents would not agree to send their kids to UVA or William and Mary after their kids are accepted to Ivy League schools or similar top schools. That defeats the purpose of "gaming the college admissions system". Parents send their kids to TJ to receive challenging education and to have opportunity to take courses/participate in research that are not available at other schools. Is that hard to understand?

One would expect "Ivy League Law School" graduate not to advance a claim that essentially contradicts his/her own reasoning.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Numbers in a Tj graduating class are more in the lower 400s, not 450.

Wrong. The graduating classes typically are around 450 students.

TJ graduating class is typically around 420 to 430.

http://schoolprofiles.fcps.edu/schlprfl/f?p=108:107:587592577349456:::0_CURRENT_SCHOOL_ID:300

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Numbers in a Tj graduating class are more in the lower 400s, not 450.

Wrong. The graduating classes typically are around 450 students.

TJ graduating class is typically around 420 to 430.

http://schoolprofiles.fcps.edu/schlprfl/f?p=108:107:587592577349456:::0_CURRENT_SCHOOL_ID:300

450 is the current number of seniors for the current year. The number of graduating class in the last 6 to 7 years has been around 420 to 430 typically. That is what "typically" means. "Typical" = "normal for a person, thing, or group : average or usual."

Guess how many will be graduating NEXT year (2015) according to your link? Around 420 to 425! Given the attrition rate of about 30 to 40 each year (which usually occurs towards end of year) and considering there are about 15 replacements for rising sophomores and about 8 to 10 replacements for rising juniors each year (which is also subject to about 7-8% attrition rate), 420 to 430 is the likely number for 2016 and 2017 as well. Thanks for providing the data!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It seems to me that there are just some people so hell bent on the idea that TJ is the be all and end all of education for their little prince or princess, no amount of logic is going to convince them that their prince or princess might actually have a better chance of being accepted to a competitive college is they sent them to a "lower" performing HS. They have drunk the TJ kool aid and can't get enough it. For those parents, I'd be curious as to where you actually went to college (and where you applied) to see if you actually have any first hand experience with competitive college admissions. And, for the record, I am the earlier poster that went to UC Berkeley, and subsequently an Ivy League law school and has a close friend who used to work in Yale admissions (after attending Yale and subsequently attending another Ivy League school).

I am also not suggesting, by any stretch of imagination, that a parent shouldn't send their kid to TJ to game the college admissions system. At the end of the day, challenge your kid as much as he or she wants to be challenged and let the chips fall where they may. Who cares whether they make it to the Ivy League, UVA, George Mason, or community college. Help them to succeed in the path best suited for them and put down the TJ kool aid.

What's the matter, didn't like attending Berkeley with too many Asians? If you haven't lived around here for the last 7-8 years, you don't know too much about TJ.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Numbers in a Tj graduating class are more in the lower 400s, not 450.

Wrong. The graduating classes typically are around 450 students.

TJ graduating class is typically around 420 to 430.

http://schoolprofiles.fcps.edu/schlprfl/f?p=108:107:587592577349456:::0_CURRENT_SCHOOL_ID:300

450 is the current number of seniors for the current year. The number of graduating class in the last 6 to 7 years has been around 420 to 430 typically. That is what "typically" means. "Typical" = "normal for a person, thing, or group : average or usual."

Guess how many will be graduating NEXT year (2015) according to your link? Around 420 to 425! Given the attrition rate of about 30 to 40 each year (which usually occurs towards end of year) and considering there are about 15 replacements for rising sophomores and about 8 to 10 replacements for rising juniors each year (which is also subject to about 7-8% attrition rate), 420 to 430 is the likely number for 2016 and 2017 as well. Thanks for providing the data!

I am not sure why you are so happy. It isn't 400.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Numbers in a Tj graduating class are more in the lower 400s, not 450.

Wrong. The graduating classes typically are around 450 students.

TJ graduating class is typically around 420 to 430.

http://schoolprofiles.fcps.edu/schlprfl/f?p=108:107:587592577349456:::0_CURRENT_SCHOOL_ID:300

450 is the current number of seniors for the current year. The number of graduating class in the last 6 to 7 years has been around 420 to 430 typically. That is what "typically" means. "Typical" = "normal for a person, thing, or group : average or usual."

Guess how many will be graduating NEXT year (2015) according to your link? Around 420 to 425! Given the attrition rate of about 30 to 40 each year (which usually occurs towards end of year) and considering there are about 15 replacements for rising sophomores and about 8 to 10 replacements for rising juniors each year (which is also subject to about 7-8% attrition rate), 420 to 430 is the likely number for 2016 and 2017 as well. Thanks for providing the data!

What is your problem?

Current TJ seniors = 455.
Seniors in June 2013= 445
Seniors in June 2012 = 446
Seniors in June 2011 = 425
Seniors in June 2010 = 441
Seniors in June 2009 = 454

Yes, the current junior class is small, but the freshmen and sophomore classes each have over 470 students. So the other poster was clearly right in suggesting the average class size during the periods covered by the 2009-13 admissions data was closer to 450 than the low 400s, and you were clearly wrong. Give it up and move on.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It seems to me that there are just some people so hell bent on the idea that TJ is the be all and end all of education for their little prince or princess, no amount of logic is going to convince them that their prince or princess might actually have a better chance of being accepted to a competitive college is they sent them to a "lower" performing HS. They have drunk the TJ kool aid and can't get enough it. For those parents, I'd be curious as to where you actually went to college (and where you applied) to see if you actually have any first hand experience with competitive college admissions. And, for the record, I am the earlier poster that went to UC Berkeley, and subsequently an Ivy League law school and has a close friend who used to work in Yale admissions (after attending Yale and subsequently attending another Ivy League school).

I am also not suggesting, by any stretch of imagination, that a parent shouldn't send their kid to TJ to game the college admissions system. At the end of the day, challenge your kid as much as he or she wants to be challenged and let the chips fall where they may. Who cares whether they make it to the Ivy League, UVA, George Mason, or community college. Help them to succeed in the path best suited for them and put down the TJ kool aid.

What's the matter, didn't like attending Berkeley with too many Asians? If you haven't lived around here for the last 7-8 years, you don't know too much about TJ.

Nice job attacking me instead of my arguments. Usually a tactic, in my experience, when someone doesn't actually have a contrary argument to make.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It seems to me that there are just some people so hell bent on the idea that TJ is the be all and end all of education for their little prince or princess, no amount of logic is going to convince them that their prince or princess might actually have a better chance of being accepted to a competitive college is they sent them to a "lower" performing HS. They have drunk the TJ kool aid and can't get enough it. For those parents, I'd be curious as to where you actually went to college (and where you applied) to see if you actually have any first hand experience with competitive college admissions. And, for the record, I am the earlier poster that went to UC Berkeley, and subsequently an Ivy League law school and has a close friend who used to work in Yale admissions (after attending Yale and subsequently attending another Ivy League school).

I am also not suggesting, by any stretch of imagination, that a parent shouldn't send their kid to TJ to game the college admissions system. At the end of the day, challenge your kid as much as he or she wants to be challenged and let the chips fall where they may. Who cares whether they make it to the Ivy League, UVA, George Mason, or community college. Help them to succeed in the path best suited for them and put down the TJ kool aid.

Stop bragging about the UC Berkeley and "Ivy League Law School". Many TJ kids turn down UC Berkeley to attend UVA/William and Mary. In fact, many TJ kids turn down Ivy League schools to attend UVA/William and Mary. Also, most parents do not send their kids to TJ to game the college admissions system. If what you say is true, parents would not agree to send their kids to UVA or William and Mary after their kids are accepted to Ivy League schools or similar top schools. That defeats the purpose of "gaming the college admissions system". Parents send their kids to TJ to receive challenging education and to have opportunity to take courses/participate in research that are not available at other schools. Is that hard to understand?

I'm not bragging about it. I'm mentioning it because I have actual experience with the admissions process at some of the country's most competitive institutions of higher learning. Do you?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It seems to me that there are just some people so hell bent on the idea that TJ is the be all and end all of education for their little prince or princess, no amount of logic is going to convince them that their prince or princess might actually have a better chance of being accepted to a competitive college is they sent them to a "lower" performing HS. They have drunk the TJ kool aid and can't get enough it. For those parents, I'd be curious as to where you actually went to college (and where you applied) to see if you actually have any first hand experience with competitive college admissions. And, for the record, I am the earlier poster that went to UC Berkeley, and subsequently an Ivy League law school and has a close friend who used to work in Yale admissions (after attending Yale and subsequently attending another Ivy League school).

I am also not suggesting, by any stretch of imagination, that a parent shouldn't send their kid to TJ to game the college admissions system. At the end of the day, challenge your kid as much as he or she wants to be challenged and let the chips fall where they may. Who cares whether they make it to the Ivy League, UVA, George Mason, or community college. Help them to succeed in the path best suited for them and put down the TJ kool aid.

+100

May be a typo, but you're not suggesting they send kids to TJ to game the college process right?

What distresses me about all this TJ talk is that so much of it comes from the parents. i.e., where should I send my kid for HS? Seems like a lot more of the drive and desire to attend TJ should come from the kid. Years ago, it was on my math and science obsessed son's radar much earlier than mine. Seems that's how it should be.

You're right. I'm not suggesting that someone should send their kids to any school to game the college admissions process - TJ, Edison, or anywhere, for that matter. Send your kids to where they want to go and what they are motivated to do. If that's TJ, great. If it's Edison or any other school, great.

[Anonymous]

Does anyone have Edison's college list? I am wondering where the top 10-25% of class go to college.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Numbers in a Tj graduating class are more in the lower 400s, not 450.

Wrong. The graduating classes typically are around 450 students.

Source?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It seems to me that there are just some people so hell bent on the idea that TJ is the be all and end all of education for their little prince or princess, no amount of logic is going to convince them that their prince or princess might actually have a better chance of being accepted to a competitive college is they sent them to a "lower" performing HS. They have drunk the TJ kool aid and can't get enough it. For those parents, I'd be curious as to where you actually went to college (and where you applied) to see if you actually have any first hand experience with competitive college admissions. And, for the record, I am the earlier poster that went to UC Berkeley, and subsequently an Ivy League law school and has a close friend who used to work in Yale admissions (after attending Yale and subsequently attending another Ivy League school).

I am also not suggesting, by any stretch of imagination, that a parent shouldn't send their kid to TJ to game the college admissions system. At the end of the day, challenge your kid as much as he or she wants to be challenged and let the chips fall where they may. Who cares whether they make it to the Ivy League, UVA, George Mason, or community college. Help them to succeed in the path best suited for them and put down the TJ kool aid.

+100

May be a typo, but you're not suggesting they send kids to TJ to game the college process right?

What distresses me about all this TJ talk is that so much of it comes from the parents. i.e., where should I send my kid for HS? Seems like a lot more of the drive and desire to attend TJ should come from the kid. Years ago, it was on my math and science obsessed son's radar much earlier than mine. Seems that's how it should be.

You're right. I'm not suggesting that someone should send their kids to any school to game the college admissions process - TJ, Edison, or anywhere, for that matter. Send your kids to where they want to go and what they are motivated to do. If that's TJ, great. If it's Edison or any other school, great.

Did you get rejected by TJ?