Why does the younger DCUM majority hate Boomers so much?

[Anonymous]

Is gen Y The same thing as milennial?? I am confused about the ages

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I'm all for increasing benefits to the young but talk to the Republicans and the Tea Party about it. I'm very concerned about the future of the young people I know who would have benefited enormously from greater assistance when they were growing up. But it's not liberal boomers who are cutting off the young.

I don't buy it. Liberal boomers are just as vocal about not having any of their benefits, subsidies, et cetera, decreased.

Oh, I should call the ambassador of the Baby Boomer Coalition and tell him to tell the President of the Baby Boomer Coalition to issue a press release to clear that up -- because, yes, all baby boomers are alike and we all have the same political views and we all vote on the political positions that become the official Baby Boomer political positions.

You're either a troll or you're deluded.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The thread about the Worst Generation over on Family Relationships made me realize just how many GenX'ers and Millenials hate Boomers and wonder exactly why? Is this just a case of younger generations thinking they have the answers and resenting their parents' ways or is there more going on here? I realize the Boomer generation has made a lot of mistakes but I don't believe we are the entitled, selfish folks were are made out to be? What do others think?

A boomer I knew retired last year with 80% pension, full health benefit, and immediately took a teaching position in a local college from his buddy. As if he needs the job.

Oh and you should determine who gets to work? That's right, we'll just put you in charge of that. When you're that age, you'll eat your words.

[Anonymous]

We need to bring our jobs back from overseas. Why are we ALL not united in doing that? We aren't we penalizing corporations for sending our jobs away so they can make more profits?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The thread about the Worst Generation over on Family Relationships made me realize just how many GenX'ers and Millenials hate Boomers and wonder exactly why? Is this just a case of younger generations thinking they have the answers and resenting their parents' ways or is there more going on here? I realize the Boomer generation has made a lot of mistakes but I don't believe we are the entitled, selfish folks were are made out to be? What do others think?

A boomer I knew retired last year with 80% pension, full health benefit, and immediately took a teaching position in a local college from his buddy. As if he needs the job.

Oh and you should determine who gets to work? That's right, we'll just put you in charge of that. When you're that age, you'll eat your words.

Exactly. Karma's a bitch!

[Anonymous]

Because, as workplace managers, they are rigid control freaks who can't think outside the box and are constantly lamenting about how things "used to be done?" Because, as parents, many of them were clueless buffoons who were more interested in themselves than their kids? Because, as a generation, they voted for people and policies that enriched themselves in the short term while giving little to no thought to the long-term consequences?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:HA HA.

Boomer here. Sucks to be young and broke and rude and ENVIOUS.

The funny thing is that many of the boomers are old and broke and rude.

+1 Which is why they are all fighting so hard to keep entitlements exactly as they are. While often, at the same time, bitching out the other side of their mouths about the government that THEY created over the years by electing a bunch of self-serving blowhards to run the show. Now the younger generations are reaping the idiocy they've sown while they insist that we pay for their retirements.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Nah, it's just a few bitter people who can't stand their parents and instead of accepting that their families suck they want to make it a generation-wide problem.

Btw, the poster is incredibly easy to taunt.

I don't think it's just a few bitter people.

Consider what the boomers have consumed, versus what they've produced.

Bill Gates and Steve Jobs were boomers. You'd be typing your messages on carbon paper and mailing them to the newspaper without BB innovations.

Well, if Bill Gates was giving his fortune to shore up Medicare or something, I'd feel differently. Instead he's spending it in Africa.

There are exceptions to every observation, that's why they're general observations. I didn't say Boomers didn't produce anything. I just said they have consumed more. In contrast to the Greatest Generation, which was thrifty, Boomers consumed, consumed, consumed. And so now, many of them cannot retire, which means there's less upward mobility in jobs for younger generations.

Ding ding! And why they are often such defensive agists about those younger than them. I am pushing 40 and a colleague, old enough to be my mother, "jokingly" asked in a meeting whether I was old enough to be a part of the senior staff team. I know she thought she was funny but her defensiveness and anxiety was readily apparent. Of course, none of her boomer managers called her out for it. But you can be damned sure if I made an agist comment against the 60-somethings in the room I'd be ripped a new one as they all cried discrimination. Never mind that I am well-educated and have nearly two decades of experience.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Bill Maher got at the heart of the issue.

Federal yearly spending per child: $3,822.
Federal yearly spending per senior: $25,455.

That is a big reason why people are angry at the Boomers. As another PP said, they hold most of the assets/independent wealth and yet they also receive the most in Federal subsidies.

I don't know, but has our country, our government, ever put so much of its investment in the elderly and not in the future (youth, job creation, innovation)?

Younger generations see that under the Boomers, pensions have been phased out, the cost of education has gone up above and beyond normal inflation, and even an advanced education doesn't ensure a job.

It's not about hatred. It's about angst.

I don't hate Boomers. And there are things that irritate me about pretty much every generation. Because let's face it, people are people. But right now, there is definitely an unequal distribution of resources in favor of the aging Boomers over all other generations. That causes tension and bitterness.

This. As a Millennial, I'm told by Boomers that I'm lazy, entitled, spoiled, etc. In the meantime, wages have stagnated. The cost of education has skyrocketed. The cost of living has increased. Health insurance costs more (and often gets cut). The entry standard for a good job has gone up (a bachelor's is now the equivalent of a high school diploma) Let's not even talk about what retirement benefits are like now. It takes more time and more money to get ahead than it did 20/30/40 years ago. Millennials are starting the race with 50lb backpacks on their back, placed there by Boomers. And then they have the gall to call us lazy because we're not running as far or as fast as they did.

I'm 29, have an undergrad degree. I have no expectation of ever owning a home or retiring in my 50s, I'll likely only have 2 kids because I can't afford more than 1 daycare tuition at a time and I don't want kids 10-15 years apart. My parents owned a home, had graduate degrees and 3 kids by the time they were my age. They were both able to retire and start 2nd careers by their early 50s.

I love my parents and respect their opinion on many, many things. But I cannot talk to them about the job market or housing. They just don't.get.it. At all. We even work in the same industry! They don't understand that what was available to them is no longer available. It's frustrating. There's a disconnect. They mean well, they want to help, but they just don't realize that the game has changed.

The Boomers did some great things. But they're not the saviors of society that they think they are. They don't have all the answers.

[Anonymous]

I love the boomers. It's Gen X that's the real pain in the ass.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Nah, it's just a few bitter people who can't stand their parents and instead of accepting that their families suck they want to make it a generation-wide problem.

Btw, the poster is incredibly easy to taunt.

I don't think it's just a few bitter people.

Consider what the boomers have consumed, versus what they've produced.

Bill Gates and Steve Jobs were boomers. You'd be typing your messages on carbon paper and mailing them to the newspaper without BB innovations.

Well, if Bill Gates was giving his fortune to shore up Medicare or something, I'd feel differently. Instead he's spending it in Africa.

There are exceptions to every observation, that's why they're general observations. I didn't say Boomers didn't produce anything. I just said they have consumed more. In contrast to the Greatest Generation, which was thrifty, Boomers consumed, consumed, consumed. And so now, many of them cannot retire, which means there's less upward mobility in jobs for younger generations.

Ding ding! And why they are often such defensive agists about those younger than them. I am pushing 40 and a colleague, old enough to be my mother, "jokingly" asked in a meeting whether I was old enough to be a part of the senior staff team. I know she thought she was funny but her defensiveness and anxiety was readily apparent. Of course, none of her boomer managers called her out for it. But you can be damned sure if I made an agist comment against the 60-somethings in the room I'd be ripped a new one as they all cried discrimination. Never mind that I am well-educated and have nearly two decades of experience.

Yeah PP, wow. It was probably bad enough getting this when you were in your 20s (I did) but to get it all over again?! Ick.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Bill Maher got at the heart of the issue.

Federal yearly spending per child: $3,822.
Federal yearly spending per senior: $25,455.

That is a big reason why people are angry at the Boomers. As another PP said, they hold most of the assets/independent wealth and yet they also receive the most in Federal subsidies.

I don't know, but has our country, our government, ever put so much of its investment in the elderly and not in the future (youth, job creation, innovation)?

Younger generations see that under the Boomers, pensions have been phased out, the cost of education has gone up above and beyond normal inflation, and even an advanced education doesn't ensure a job.

It's not about hatred. It's about angst.

I don't hate Boomers. And there are things that irritate me about pretty much every generation. Because let's face it, people are people. But right now, there is definitely an unequal distribution of resources in favor of the aging Boomers over all other generations. That causes tension and bitterness.

This. As a Millennial, I'm told by Boomers that I'm lazy, entitled, spoiled, etc. In the meantime, wages have stagnated. The cost of education has skyrocketed. The cost of living has increased. Health insurance costs more (and often gets cut). The entry standard for a good job has gone up (a bachelor's is now the equivalent of a high school diploma) Let's not even talk about what retirement benefits are like now. It takes more time and more money to get ahead than it did 20/30/40 years ago. Millennials are starting the race with 50lb backpacks on their back, placed there by Boomers. And then they have the gall to call us lazy because we're not running as far or as fast as they did.

I'm 29, have an undergrad degree. I have no expectation of ever owning a home or retiring in my 50s, I'll likely only have 2 kids because I can't afford more than 1 daycare tuition at a time and I don't want kids 10-15 years apart. My parents owned a home, had graduate degrees and 3 kids by the time they were my age. They were both able to retire and start 2nd careers by their early 50s.

I love my parents and respect their opinion on many, many things. But I cannot talk to them about the job market or housing. They just don't.get.it. At all. We even work in the same industry! They don't understand that what was available to them is no longer available. It's frustrating. There's a disconnect. They mean well, they want to help, but they just don't realize that the game has changed.

The Boomers did some great things. But they're not the saviors of society that they think they are. They don't have all the answers.

Well stated. Even with generalizations (which this thread has of course by necessity) I think you highlighted something really real here.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Bill Maher got at the heart of the issue.

Federal yearly spending per child: $3,822.
Federal yearly spending per senior: $25,455.

That is a big reason why people are angry at the Boomers. As another PP said, they hold most of the assets/independent wealth and yet they also receive the most in Federal subsidies.

I don't know, but has our country, our government, ever put so much of its investment in the elderly and not in the future (youth, job creation, innovation)?

Younger generations see that under the Boomers, pensions have been phased out, the cost of education has gone up above and beyond normal inflation, and even an advanced education doesn't ensure a job.

It's not about hatred. It's about angst.

I don't hate Boomers. And there are things that irritate me about pretty much every generation. Because let's face it, people are people. But right now, there is definitely an unequal distribution of resources in favor of the aging Boomers over all other generations. That causes tension and bitterness.

This. As a Millennial, I'm told by Boomers that I'm lazy, entitled, spoiled, etc. In the meantime, wages have stagnated. The cost of education has skyrocketed. The cost of living has increased. Health insurance costs more (and often gets cut). The entry standard for a good job has gone up (a bachelor's is now the equivalent of a high school diploma) Let's not even talk about what retirement benefits are like now. It takes more time and more money to get ahead than it did 20/30/40 years ago. Millennials are starting the race with 50lb backpacks on their back, placed there by Boomers. And then they have the gall to call us lazy because we're not running as far or as fast as they did.

I'm 29, have an undergrad degree. I have no expectation of ever owning a home or retiring in my 50s, I'll likely only have 2 kids because I can't afford more than 1 daycare tuition at a time and I don't want kids 10-15 years apart. My parents owned a home, had graduate degrees and 3 kids by the time they were my age. They were both able to retire and start 2nd careers by their early 50s.

I love my parents and respect their opinion on many, many things. But I cannot talk to them about the job market or housing. They just don't.get.it. At all. We even work in the same industry! They don't understand that what was available to them is no longer available. It's frustrating. There's a disconnect. They mean well, they want to help, but they just don't realize that the game has changed.

The Boomers did some great things. But they're not the saviors of society that they think they are. They don't have all the answers.

This. And, when I ask my Boomer dad, "wouldn't you rather take a cut in your SS payments then see your young son (by second wife, aged 25) spend the rest of his life paying off a debt to your generation?" he answers, "No! the government PROMISED us this money."

He refuses to let go of his entitlements even though it may harm the younger generation to make good on them. When it is my Dad's own fault that HIS duly elected government got his son into this mess.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Bill Maher got at the heart of the issue.

Federal yearly spending per child: $3,822.
Federal yearly spending per senior: $25,455.

That is a big reason why people are angry at the Boomers. As another PP said, they hold most of the assets/independent wealth and yet they also receive the most in Federal subsidies.

I don't know, but has our country, our government, ever put so much of its investment in the elderly and not in the future (youth, job creation, innovation)?

Younger generations see that under the Boomers, pensions have been phased out, the cost of education has gone up above and beyond normal inflation, and even an advanced education doesn't ensure a job.

It's not about hatred. It's about angst.

I don't hate Boomers. And there are things that irritate me about pretty much every generation. Because let's face it, people are people. But right now, there is definitely an unequal distribution of resources in favor of the aging Boomers over all other generations. That causes tension and bitterness.

This. As a Millennial, I'm told by Boomers that I'm lazy, entitled, spoiled, etc. In the meantime, wages have stagnated. The cost of education has skyrocketed. The cost of living has increased. Health insurance costs more (and often gets cut). The entry standard for a good job has gone up (a bachelor's is now the equivalent of a high school diploma) Let's not even talk about what retirement benefits are like now. It takes more time and more money to get ahead than it did 20/30/40 years ago. Millennials are starting the race with 50lb backpacks on their back, placed there by Boomers. And then they have the gall to call us lazy because we're not running as far or as fast as they did.

I'm 29, have an undergrad degree. I have no expectation of ever owning a home or retiring in my 50s, I'll likely only have 2 kids because I can't afford more than 1 daycare tuition at a time and I don't want kids 10-15 years apart. My parents owned a home, had graduate degrees and 3 kids by the time they were my age. They were both able to retire and start 2nd careers by their early 50s.

I love my parents and respect their opinion on many, many things. But I cannot talk to them about the job market or housing. They just don't.get.it. At all. We even work in the same industry! They don't understand that what was available to them is no longer available. It's frustrating. There's a disconnect. They mean well, they want to help, but they just don't realize that the game has changed.

The Boomers did some great things. But they're not the saviors of society that they think they are. They don't have all the answers.

Really. So sad. As a boomer in the 1970s we had a serious recession that went on for 17 years. All our parents lost their jobs. As a college grad in the 1980s -- even the top students struggled to find work. In the early 1990s -- another recession. Stop feeling so sorry for yourself.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Because, as workplace managers, they are rigid control freaks who can't think outside the box and are constantly lamenting about how things "used to be done?" Because, as parents, many of them were clueless buffoons who were more interested in themselves than their kids? Because, as a generation, they voted for people and policies that enriched themselves in the short term while giving little to no thought to the long-term consequences?

Ha ha, you're slipping, troll! That's so over the top, it doesn't offend anyone!