MCPS just isn't so great anymore - WashPo Opinion 9/6/2013

Anonymous
Incompetent: (adj). not having or showing the necessary skills to do something successfully.


The reward for being incompetent on the job is not getting bussed to another company branch with outperformers, it's a PIP plan and then you are let go. If you can't perform after training and other help you are let go.

Btw, India, china, Korea, etc would love for the whole American school system to go down the tubes while debating "what makes someone incompetent" of basic and advanced skills the ROW is learning quite well.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Incompetent: (adj). not having or showing the necessary skills to do something successfully.


The reward for being incompetent on the job is not getting bussed to another company branch with outperformers, it's a PIP plan and then you are let go. If you can't perform after training and other help you are let go.

Btw, India, china, Korea, etc would love for the whole American school system to go down the tubes while debating "what makes someone incompetent" of basic and advanced skills the ROW is learning quite well.


I know what incompetent means.

My question is, what people in the "real world" of the eastern MoCo/non-W-schools part of MCPS are you saying are incompetent and in what way(s)?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:

The reward for being incompetent on the job is not getting bussed to another company branch with outperformers, it's a PIP plan and then you are let go. If you can't perform after training and other help you are let go.



Since when are schoolchildren employees of MCPS? I thought that MCPS existed to serve the needs of schoolchildren, not the other way around.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

The reward for being incompetent on the job is not getting bussed to another company branch with outperformers, it's a PIP plan and then you are let go. If you can't perform after training and other help you are let go.



Since when are schoolchildren employees of MCPS? I thought that MCPS existed to serve the needs of schoolchildren, not the other way around.


And which ones are incompetent, and in what ways?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

The reward for being incompetent on the job is not getting bussed to another company branch with outperformers, it's a PIP plan and then you are let go. If you can't perform after training and other help you are let go.



Since when are schoolchildren employees of MCPS? I thought that MCPS existed to serve the needs of schoolchildren, not the other way around.


Hilarious! Just tell the underperformers to shape up or ship out, that's it!

Then start building more prisons, 'cause we'll need to house these underperformers somewhere a few decades from now.
Anonymous
Here is a radical thought..maybe MCPS should learn how to actually teach students?

We're in one of the W schools. Our principal is known for never allowing early entrance and actively encourages red shirting for kids with spring birthdays. Its pretty clear that her mission is to make sure she is being evaluated based on test scores from kids who knew the material 1-2 years before anyone at MCPS ever presented it. The performance at the W schools is in spite of the curriculum not due to it.
You have teachers who rarely if ever need to teach kids who don't already know what they are teaching.

The higher performers in the W are a reflection of the parents teaching the kids at home and all the enrichment/extra curricular activities they engage in. Busing underachieving students who don't have these advantages is only going to make it worse for them. Their friends' parents aren't going to pay for Kumon for them. The playing field isn't level at all for them and they will end up with teachers who don't know what to do with them.

If MCPS wants to close the gap (not just hide it) then they need to match what the high achievers are getting outside of MCPS for the underachievers. They'll need to throw out the stupid Pearson curriculum and create something that includes reward incentives, personal growth plans, and involves significant one on one feedback.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Here is a radical thought..maybe MCPS should learn how to actually teach students?



Huh. My kids are in MCPS schools that are not "W" schools, and they are learning in school. I wonder what that means?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Here is a radical thought..maybe MCPS should learn how to actually teach students?

We're in one of the W schools. Our principal is known for never allowing early entrance and actively encourages red shirting for kids with spring birthdays. Its pretty clear that her mission is to make sure she is being evaluated based on test scores from kids who knew the material 1-2 years before anyone at MCPS ever presented it. The performance at the W schools is in spite of the curriculum not due to it.
You have teachers who rarely if ever need to teach kids who don't already know what they are teaching.

The higher performers in the W are a reflection of the parents teaching the kids at home and all the enrichment/extra curricular activities they engage in. Busing underachieving students who don't have these advantages is only going to make it worse for them. Their friends' parents aren't going to pay for Kumon for them. The playing field isn't level at all for them and they will end up with teachers who don't know what to do with them.

If MCPS wants to close the gap (not just hide it) then they need to match what the high achievers are getting outside of MCPS for the underachievers. They'll need to throw out the stupid Pearson curriculum and create something that includes reward incentives, personal growth plans, and involves significant one on one feedback.



Yes, the county needs to raise, feed, parent, coach, entertain, and teach these at-risk students!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

The reward for being incompetent on the job is not getting bussed to another company branch with outperformers, it's a PIP plan and then you are let go. If you can't perform after training and other help you are let go.



Since when are schoolchildren employees of MCPS? I thought that MCPS existed to serve the needs of schoolchildren, not the other way around.


Hilarious! Just tell the underperformers to shape up or ship out, that's it!

Then start building more prisons, 'cause we'll need to house these underperformers somewhere a few decades from now.


Pretty much how it works now, prison or the dole. Either way your not a productive citizen and you are a costly citizen.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I don't know...While I am a professional with a Masters from Georgetown, I work with people who have Phds, clerks, cleaning people, 21 year old new graduates, security staff. Pretty diverse group to make it work..


Oh please. You turn in a team project to a paying client that the cleaning and Security staff contributed a few analyses?
Or you all say Hi when coming and going, and completely have different types of jobs?


+1. Most professional job has no diversity on the SES. Racial diversity depends on how you view the Asians.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I don't know...While I am a professional with a Masters from Georgetown, I work with people who have Phds, clerks, cleaning people, 21 year old new graduates, security staff. Pretty diverse group to make it work..


Oh please. You turn in a team project to a paying client that the cleaning and Security staff contributed a few analyses?
Or you all say Hi when coming and going, and completely have different types of jobs?


+1. Most professional job has no diversity on the SES. Racial diversity depends on how you view the Asians.


The lack of diversity in higher level professional jobs can be directly linked to access of good, quality, pubic education beginning with primary and secondary education. Without a good foundation, kids are ill prepared for higher level education and therefore cannot have access to the upper tiers of the professional world.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I don't know...While I am a professional with a Masters from Georgetown, I work with people who have Phds, clerks, cleaning people, 21 year old new graduates, security staff. Pretty diverse group to make it work..


Oh please. You turn in a team project to a paying client that the cleaning and Security staff contributed a few analyses?
Or you all say Hi when coming and going, and completely have different types of jobs?


+1. Most professional job has no diversity on the SES. Racial diversity depends on how you view the Asians.


The lack of diversity in higher level professional jobs can be directly linked to access of good, quality, pubic education beginning with primary and secondary education. Without a good foundation, kids are ill prepared for higher level education and therefore cannot have access to the upper tiers of the professional world.


The people who need to hear and understand this don't give.a.shit
They just want to be sure their snowflakes don't go to school with the janitor's kid
Anonymous
I'd be happy if more of DC classmates had a father at home, and a legitimately working one (janitor) would be great!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I'd be happy if more of DC classmates had a father at home, and a legitimately working one (janitor) would be great!


Why/in what way would that make you happy?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I'd be happy if more of DC classmates had a father at home, and a legitimately working one (janitor) would be great!

Why, is someone requiring you to step in for the absent dad?
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