Former Lt. Gov. Justin Fairfax - murder/suicide?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I believe his wife was a dentist. The best thing you can do is get out as fast as you can after you file if you're afraid for your life. File a restraining order and take the kids. Men are predators who will kill you while pregnant or going through a divorce. Virginia judges are not pro-women.

+1. They are surprising number of murder suicides committed by men while going through a divorce. Maybe it's not surprising.

Maybe that should be a hold on a gun permit. If your spouse has filed for divorce there’s an X waiting period on your gun application.

Or, in this case, a tip line where you can request their gun be removed from their possession for 120 days.

[Anonymous]

My heart goes out to the children.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:As a high school teacher what gets me is how if it hadn’t ended this way that night, the son still would’ve been in school the next day after what was clearly a blowout fight between his parents in the midst of a messy divorce he’d been living in for a couple years. Sometimes we just don’t realize exactly what kids are dealing with at home. I’m really thinking of the kids, their whole world is gone.

So much this. These poor kids were living in a war zone. They are f**ked for life.

Trauma echoes for generations. I hope Justin rots in hell.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Could there be processes that get guns temporarily confiscated during family law proceedings if there has been red flag behaviors like alcoholism and fights? Just getting rid of the easy access might help in situations like this.

Virginia has a red flag law. The behavior he exhibited, as has been reported, was absolutely grounds for him to have had his weapon confiscated. But, it requires someone to make a request.

On July 1, 2020, the Commonwealth of Virginia’s Emergency Substantial Risk Order (ESRO) law, commonly referred to as a “red flag law,” went into effect, making Virginia the 19th state to enact such legislation.

EQUESTING AN EMERGENCY SUBSTANTIAL RISK ORDER (ESRO)

Virginia’s ESRO law prevents individuals who show signs of being a threat to themselves or others from purchasing, possessing or transporting any kind of firearm. If you know of someone with a gun acting in a way that concerns you, speak up to prevent a gun tragedy:

To request an ESRO, call the Police non-emergency line at 703-691-2131.
If there is an immediate danger, call or text 9-1-1.

https://www.fairfaxcounty.gov/topics/red-flag#:~:text=Virginia's%20ESRO%20law%20prevents%20individuals,transporting%20any%20kind%20of%20firearm.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Could there be processes that get guns temporarily confiscated during family law proceedings if there has been red flag behaviors like alcoholism and fights? Just getting rid of the easy access might help in situations like this.

Virginia has a red-flag law: https://law.lis.virginia.gov/vacode/19.2-152.13/
It became law in 2020, with the lieutenant governor's vote breaking the senate's tie to pass it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I believe his wife was a dentist. The best thing you can do is get out as fast as you can after you file if you're afraid for your life. File a restraining order and take the kids. Men are predators who will kill you while pregnant or going through a divorce. Virginia judges are not pro-women.

+1. They are surprising number of murder suicides committed by men while going through a divorce. Maybe it's not surprising.

Maybe that should be a hold on a gun permit. If your spouse has filed for divorce there’s an X waiting period on your gun application.

Or, in this case, a tip line where you can request their gun be removed from their possession for 120 days.

You all are looking for the government to somehow stop dangerous domestic abuse and violence issues that the government is completely incapable of stopping.

[Anonymous]

"Four years ago, he bought a gun with money intended for his children's horseback riding lessons and then disappeared without a word. His brother and wife's stepfather found him in the woods of a public park, insisting that he needed the gun for protection and carried it with him so the children wouldn't find it. The standoff ended when his brother arranged for a mental health professional to talk to him in a parking lot at Tyson's Corner Mall at 1 in the morning."
https://richmond.com/news/state-regional/government-politics/article_8960a8ef-21ce-4918-a650-dfb9ec6ba82e.html
Hopefully his gun was removed under the red flag law he helped pass. I don't know. I do know that he shouldn't have had a gun.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I believe his wife was a dentist. The best thing you can do is get out as fast as you can after you file if you're afraid for your life. File a restraining order and take the kids. Men are predators who will kill you while pregnant or going through a divorce. Virginia judges are not pro-women.

+1. They are surprising number of murder suicides committed by men while going through a divorce. Maybe it's not surprising.

Maybe that should be a hold on a gun permit. If your spouse has filed for divorce there’s an X waiting period on your gun application.

What is a gun permit? That does not exist in America. Or, at least not in most states, including Virginia.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I believe his wife was a dentist. The best thing you can do is get out as fast as you can after you file if you're afraid for your life. File a restraining order and take the kids. Men are predators who will kill you while pregnant or going through a divorce. Virginia judges are not pro-women.

+1. They are surprising number of murder suicides committed by men while going through a divorce. Maybe it's not surprising.

Maybe that should be a hold on a gun permit. If your spouse has filed for divorce there’s an X waiting period on your gun application.

Or, in this case, a tip line where you can request their gun be removed from their possession for 120 days.

You all are looking for the government to somehow stop dangerous domestic abuse and violence issues that the government is completely incapable of stopping.

They can certainly do a lot more than they currently do.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:"Four years ago, he bought a gun with money intended for his children's horseback riding lessons and then disappeared without a word. His brother and wife's stepfather found him in the woods of a public park, insisting that he needed the gun for protection and carried it with him so the children wouldn't find it. The standoff ended when his brother arranged for a mental health professional to talk to him in a parking lot at Tyson's Corner Mall at 1 in the morning."
https://richmond.com/news/state-regional/government-politics/article_8960a8ef-21ce-4918-a650-dfb9ec6ba82e.html
Hopefully his gun was removed under the red flag law he helped pass. I don't know. I do know that he shouldn't have had a gun.

Can you share a gift link for this article?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I believe his wife was a dentist. The best thing you can do is get out as fast as you can after you file if you're afraid for your life. File a restraining order and take the kids. Men are predators who will kill you while pregnant or going through a divorce. Virginia judges are not pro-women.

+1. They are surprising number of murder suicides committed by men while going through a divorce. Maybe it's not surprising.

Maybe that should be a hold on a gun permit. If your spouse has filed for divorce there’s an X waiting period on your gun application.

What is a gun permit? That does not exist in America. Or, at least not in most states, including Virginia.

A critical gap.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"Four years ago, he bought a gun with money intended for his children's horseback riding lessons and then disappeared without a word. His brother and wife's stepfather found him in the woods of a public park, insisting that he needed the gun for protection and carried it with him so the children wouldn't find it. The standoff ended when his brother arranged for a mental health professional to talk to him in a parking lot at Tyson's Corner Mall at 1 in the morning."
https://richmond.com/news/state-regional/government-politics/article_8960a8ef-21ce-4918-a650-dfb9ec6ba82e.html
Hopefully his gun was removed under the red flag law he helped pass. I don't know. I do know that he shouldn't have had a gun.

Can you share a gift link for this article?

https://archive.ph/WGOuF#selection-4349.224-4349.312

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
For help leaving a potentially violent domestic situation: call 703-246-4573
Fairfax County Domestic Violence Action Center (DVAC)

They will review different options and explain what the Virginia laws actually are. There is a lot of mis-information posted as fact in this thread.

In *crisis* situations: 911 or
"If you or someone you know is experiencing abuse, please call our Domestic and Sexual Violence 24-Hour Hotline at 703-360-7273"

Ok, but it doesn't really help.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
For help leaving a potentially violent domestic situation: call 703-246-4573
Fairfax County Domestic Violence Action Center (DVAC)

They will review different options and explain what the Virginia laws actually are. There is a lot of mis-information posted as fact in this thread.

In *crisis* situations: 911 or
"If you or someone you know is experiencing abuse, please call our Domestic and Sexual Violence 24-Hour Hotline at 703-360-7273"

Ok, but it doesn't really help.

I disagree, a lot of women don’t know what their legal options are to leave these relationships, especially if there are children involved. There are also women who lack the financial means to leave. I’m not saying it is a totally perfect fix, but these hotlines are definitely needed.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"Four years ago, he bought a gun with money intended for his children's horseback riding lessons and then disappeared without a word. His brother and wife's stepfather found him in the woods of a public park, insisting that he needed the gun for protection and carried it with him so the children wouldn't find it. The standoff ended when his brother arranged for a mental health professional to talk to him in a parking lot at Tyson's Corner Mall at 1 in the morning."
https://richmond.com/news/state-regional/government-politics/article_8960a8ef-21ce-4918-a650-dfb9ec6ba82e.html
Hopefully his gun was removed under the red flag law he helped pass. I don't know. I do know that he shouldn't have had a gun.

Can you share a gift link for this article?

https://archive.ph/WGOuF#selection-4349.224-4349.312

Thank you