It's absolutely true . I thought people have realized this by now? Just look at the writings and speech of Netanyahu many years before we actually invaded Iraq |
AIPAC owns congress |
| I'm forecasting a ketchup shortage before long. |
So? Did Bush somehow not make a choice to invade? Netanyahu forced him? The Iraq invasion was a long term goal of American neocons. |
Israel is the one who gave us the intel about “WMD”. One of their own in the Bush admin, Scooter Libby leaked a CIA agent’s name (Valerie Plame) because her husband was critical about the intel on Iraq. Saddam never had WMD and even wrote to the UN that they can inspect the country if they wanted. He also had nothing to do with Al qaeda or 9/11. However, if you poll American today, probably a third still believe it |
The neocons said Iraq supported terrorism because Saddam would give money to Palestinians who had their homes destroyed by IDF bulldozer.
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Are you serious or trolling in regards to the Iraq war and Israel's role in pushing for it? You want ppl to just ignore that those in the US govt who prioritize Israel were not at the helm of pushing for war in Iraq? Joe Lieberman tried to push a war with IraN when Iraq had barely started. David Frum gets to write speeches for the Israeli amb and still have the nerve to shriek about "antisemitism" and "dual loyalty tropes" Gee, I wonder if Mehdi Hasan could get away w/ doing that for a Muslim Amb and not have it called out. And western colonialism is why Israel was forced upon the Middle East in the first place. Lindsay Graham went to ISRAEL to tell them how to convince Trump to go to war. Marco Rubio: Israel Kushner/Witkoff: Israel You will never convince anyone that these ME wars would never have happened if Israel didn't have a seat at every table. And focusing on Kent being an antisemite rather than him being against this disaster, is why "dual loyalty" tropes exist or in cases like Loomer, Greenblatt and Levin, ONE loyalty - and not to America. Pete Hegseth is a virulent bigot towards Muslims. Loves all of the death among Muslims. He has friggin tattoos to let everyone know how full of hate he is for the ppl he is killing, so why should anyone ever give a sh*t about your feelings when you go after everyone no where near as disgusting as Hegseth? No one cares about your feelings because even ppl who aren't antisemites, get called that. Go concern yourselves w/ Stars of David being carved into Palestinians or on their homes as a threat to leave their homes Joe Kent isn't the reason for the hate. Get used to being further and further isolated as you lash out at anyone or everyone but the actual source of the hate: An ethnostate claiming they are the Jewish state and slaughtering in nation after nation on behalf of "Judaism" |
| You will never convince anyone that these ME wars would have happened if Israel didn't have a seat at every table. * |
Don’t ever call those neocons American. They make it clear who their allegiance is to first. |
Exactly. Just because there are other parties that benefit from Iraq war (military industrial complex, neocons - many who are zionists either way) doesn't mean that this effort was not spearheaded by Israel. With Iran, it's the same thing, just more obvious now. |
This isn’t our problem. Israel has an army and an elite air force. If they had a problem With Saddam supporting Palestinians, they could invade him themselves. We were stupid and arrogant to launch 2 wars at the same time And think they would be easy sailing. Did our ally even send one troop to Iraq or Afghanistan like The rest of the world? Why is trump begging nato and Europe for help? What about our number 1 ally? Why are they excused from this war of Their own creation? |
DP: “DP. Here’s what’s BS: using justifiable criticism of Israel as cover to espouse grossly antisemitic views” what does this even mean in practice? How do you know if criticism of Israel is coming from a place of authenticity vs antisemitism? I began using “Zionist”” instead of Israel bc it’s not Israel that I have issues with (i have issue with the leadership who thinks it’s a okay to displace, harm, kill, starve people) and have been told on this board that is antisemitism. You can’t keep taking away words used without at least explaining what words can be used. I think what Israel has done in Gaza and now Lebanon is immoral and inhumane. |