What separates the students who get into state flagships versus those who get into T20 universities?

[Anonymous]

Selective state flagships seem to value well rounded kids who are in the top 10 percent of their high school class with leadership in traditional extracurricular activities (i.e. varsity sport captain, SGA president, etc.). Most kids at T20s are either hooked (recruited athlete, legacy, donor, first generation low income) or very pointy (exceptional grades and test scores with national/international recognition in a less common extracurricular activity).

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Anonymous wrote:Several public schools are T20 universities (UC Berkeley, UCLA and UMich) (2026 rankings)

the quality of student is T30/35. While Emory, Georgetown are technically T25, but quality of student is T20.

lol

UCLA avg sat is a 1340

Not sure about Georgetown, but Emory admits a crazy almost 40% without test scores. I wonder what the average is there? Hmmm

It does not 67% of students submit test scores to Emory last year , class of 2029. Class of 2028 was 63%. For this year's class expect 70% or more. With that said 67% submitted is more than all of Emorys peers besides Georgetown. Vanderbilt is what I would consider low with only 50% submitted.

Class of 2028 Submitting SAT Scores 43% 623 Submitting ACT Scores 20% 286
Emory doesn't disclose how many of the 43% SAT or 20% ACT submitted both ACT and SAT so were counted twice for having submitted test scores. So the number I suspect is higher than even the 37% of the total class that did not submit scores.

Thats not how that works. If so Vandy would have less than 50% test submitters which also isnt true. Stop the non sense

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Several public schools are T20 universities (UC Berkeley, UCLA and UMich) (2026 rankings)

the quality of student is T30/35. While Emory, Georgetown are technically T25, but quality of student is T20.

lol

UCLA avg sat is a 1340

You genuinely don’t know what the average SAT is for a test blind school that stopped publishing this information like 6 years ago.

They still collect test data for placement purposes

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Several public schools are T20 universities (UC Berkeley, UCLA and UMich) (2026 rankings)

the quality of student is T30/35. While Emory, Georgetown are technically T25, but quality of student is T20.

lol

UCLA avg sat is a 1340

You genuinely don’t know what the average SAT is for a test blind school that stopped publishing this information like 6 years ago.

Same with a school that accepts well over 30 -40% test optional. At that point any median is smoke and mirrors.

Emory had a 1470 median before Test optional. Thata 130 points higher than UCLA today.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Several public schools are T20 universities (UC Berkeley, UCLA and UMich) (2026 rankings)

the quality of student is T30/35. While Emory, Georgetown are technically T25, but quality of student is T20.

lol

UCLA avg sat is a 1340

They don’t take SATs, you dolt.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Several public schools are T20 universities (UC Berkeley, UCLA and UMich) (2026 rankings)

the quality of student is T30/35. While Emory, Georgetown are technically T25, but quality of student is T20.

lol

UCLA avg sat is a 1340

You genuinely don’t know what the average SAT is for a test blind school that stopped publishing this information like 6 years ago.

Same with a school that accepts well over 30 -40% test optional. At that point any median is smoke and mirrors.

Emory had a 1470 median before Test optional. Thata 130 points higher than UCLA today.

Where in gods name are you getting the “UCLA today” figure? UCLA has been test-blind for six years.

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Anonymous wrote:Several public schools are T20 universities (UC Berkeley, UCLA and UMich) (2026 rankings)

the quality of student is T30/35. While Emory, Georgetown are technically T25, but quality of student is T20.

lol

UCLA avg sat is a 1340

You genuinely don’t know what the average SAT is for a test blind school that stopped publishing this information like 6 years ago.

They still collect test data for placement purposes

Link to the current UCLA SAT data, please.

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Anonymous wrote:Several public schools are T20 universities (UC Berkeley, UCLA and UMich) (2026 rankings)

the quality of student is T30/35. While Emory, Georgetown are technically T25, but quality of student is T20.

lol

UCLA avg sat is a 1340

Not sure about Georgetown, but Emory admits a crazy almost 40% without test scores. I wonder what the average is there? Hmmm

It does not 67% of students submit test scores to Emory last year , class of 2029. Class of 2028 was 63%. For this year's class expect 70% or more. With that said 67% submitted is more than all of Emorys peers besides Georgetown. Vanderbilt is what I would consider low with only 50% submitted.

Class of 2028 Submitting SAT Scores 43% 623 Submitting ACT Scores 20% 286
Emory doesn't disclose how many of the 43% SAT or 20% ACT submitted both ACT and SAT so were counted twice for having submitted test scores. So the number I suspect is higher than even the 37% of the total class that did not submit scores.

Thats not how that works. If so Vandy would have less than 50% test submitters which also isnt true. Stop the non sense

Citing median test scores as if it's truly indicative for a college that is TO for well over 30% of its admits is the nonsense.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Several public schools are T20 universities (UC Berkeley, UCLA and UMich) (2026 rankings)

the quality of student is T30/35. While Emory, Georgetown are technically T25, but quality of student is T20.

lol

UCLA avg sat is a 1340

You genuinely don’t know what the average SAT is for a test blind school that stopped publishing this information like 6 years ago.

Same with a school that accepts well over 30 -40% test optional. At that point any median is smoke and mirrors.

Emory had a 1470 median before Test optional. Thata 130 points higher than UCLA today.

So even before test optional 50 percent got in with scores less than a 1470. Seems about right.

[Anonymous]

If I wanted to be a nurse, I'd probably go to Emory. Everything else screams UCLA to me.

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Anonymous wrote:Several public schools are T20 universities (UC Berkeley, UCLA and UMich) (2026 rankings)

the quality of student is T30/35. While Emory, Georgetown are technically T25, but quality of student is T20.

lol

UCLA avg sat is a 1340

Not sure about Georgetown, but Emory admits a crazy almost 40% without test scores. I wonder what the average is there? Hmmm

It does not 67% of students submit test scores to Emory last year , class of 2029. Class of 2028 was 63%. For this year's class expect 70% or more. With that said 67% submitted is more than all of Emorys peers besides Georgetown. Vanderbilt is what I would consider low with only 50% submitted.

Class of 2028 Submitting SAT Scores 43% 623 Submitting ACT Scores 20% 286
Emory doesn't disclose how many of the 43% SAT or 20% ACT submitted both ACT and SAT so were counted twice for having submitted test scores. So the number I suspect is higher than even the 37% of the total class that did not submit scores.

Thats not how that works. If so Vandy would have less than 50% test submitters which also isnt true. Stop the non sense

That's your opinion based on nothing. Doesn't' answer the question. Show me evidence where students that submitted both scores are only counted once for either the ACT or SAT?

[Anonymous]

If you look at the NY suburban school results someone posted a few weeks back and look at who gets into Berkeley and UCLA, almost everyone who got in had a very high gpa (unweighted) and many AP tests. Since Berkeley and UCLA are test blind it looks like they have figured out a way to pick good students without SAT score info (but with using gpa and AP as proxy) since almost all that were accepted had very high SAT scores.

[Anonymous]

I wish DC had a better state school for my kid who has 1500 SAT. Doesn't get him in any state schools.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If I wanted to be a nurse, I'd probably go to Emory. Everything else screams UCLA to me.

Just shows how ignorant you are, you would go to UCLA for finance.

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Anonymous wrote:Several public schools are T20 universities (UC Berkeley, UCLA and UMich) (2026 rankings)

the quality of student is T30/35. While Emory, Georgetown are technically T25, but quality of student is T20.

lol

UCLA avg sat is a 1340

Not sure about Georgetown, but Emory admits a crazy almost 40% without test scores. I wonder what the average is there? Hmmm

It does not 67% of students submit test scores to Emory last year , class of 2029. Class of 2028 was 63%. For this year's class expect 70% or more. With that said 67% submitted is more than all of Emorys peers besides Georgetown. Vanderbilt is what I would consider low with only 50% submitted.

Class of 2028 Submitting SAT Scores 43% 623 Submitting ACT Scores 20% 286
Emory doesn't disclose how many of the 43% SAT or 20% ACT submitted both ACT and SAT so were counted twice for having submitted test scores. So the number I suspect is higher than even the 37% of the total class that did not submit scores.

Thats not how that works. If so Vandy would have less than 50% test submitters which also isnt true. Stop the non sense

That's your opinion based on nothing. Doesn't' answer the question. Show me evidence where students that submitted both scores are only counted once for either the ACT or SAT?

Score choice takes the highest score of any test submitted. Only Georgetown uses all scores submitted, thus there would be double counting.