What separates the students who get into state flagships versus those who get into T20 universities?

Anonymous
We weren’t able to send our kid to a T10 as financially couldn’t make it work . It would have made us vulnerable in retirement. Hope we didn’t to injustice to our kid.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:We weren’t able to send our kid to a T10 as financially couldn’t make it work . It would have made us vulnerable in retirement. Hope we didn’t to injustice to our kid.


oh my goodness. Of course, you didn't. Sending and being able to help pay for your kid's college no matter the college is a blessing.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Several public schools are T20 universities (UC Berkeley, UCLA and UMich) (2026 rankings)
the quality of student is T30/35. While Emory, Georgetown are technically T25, but quality of student is T20.


lol

UCLA avg sat is a 1340


Not sure about Georgetown, but Emory admits a crazy almost 40% without test scores. I wonder what the average is there? Hmmm

It does not 67% of students submit test scores to Emory last year , class of 2029. Class of 2028 was 63%. For this year's class expect 70% or more. With that said 67% submitted is more than all of Emorys peers besides Georgetown. Vanderbilt is what I would consider low with only 50% submitted.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Several public schools are T20 universities (UC Berkeley, UCLA and UMich) (2026 rankings)
the quality of student is T30/35. While Emory, Georgetown are technically T25, but quality of student is T20.


lol

UCLA avg sat is a 1340


Not sure about Georgetown, but Emory admits a crazy almost 40% without test scores. I wonder what the average is there? Hmmm

Also Emory's current median is a 1510, and would not drop anywhere near a 1340 with full submission. UCLA has subpar student body and we see that with its grad school outcomes.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Several public schools are T20 universities (UC Berkeley, UCLA and UMich) (2026 rankings)
the quality of student is T30/35. While Emory, Georgetown are technically T25, but quality of student is T20.


lol

UCLA avg sat is a 1340


Not sure about Georgetown, but Emory admits a crazy almost 40% without test scores. I wonder what the average is there? Hmmm

It does not 67% of students submit test scores to Emory last year , class of 2029. Class of 2028 was 63%. For this year's class expect 70% or more. With that said 67% submitted is more than all of Emorys peers besides Georgetown. Vanderbilt is what I would consider low with only 50% submitted.


That means 33% below average scores were not submitted and they were admitted. Cool
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Several public schools are T20 universities (UC Berkeley, UCLA and UMich) (2026 rankings)
the quality of student is T30/35. While Emory, Georgetown are technically T25, but quality of student is T20.


lol

UCLA avg sat is a 1340


Not sure about Georgetown, but Emory admits a crazy almost 40% without test scores. I wonder what the average is there? Hmmm

Also Emory's current median is a 1510, and would not drop anywhere near a 1340 with full submission. UCLA has subpar student body and we see that with its grad school outcomes.


It would definitely drop below 1340
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Several public schools are T20 universities (UC Berkeley, UCLA and UMich) (2026 rankings)
the quality of student is T30/35. While Emory, Georgetown are technically T25, but quality of student is T20.


lol

UCLA avg sat is a 1340


Not sure about Georgetown, but Emory admits a crazy almost 40% without test scores. I wonder what the average is there? Hmmm

Also Emory's current median is a 1510, and would not drop anywhere near a 1340 with full submission. UCLA has subpar student body and we see that with its grad school outcomes.


It would definitely drop below 1340


Realistically Emory is more like Top 50.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Several public schools are T20 universities (UC Berkeley, UCLA and UMich) (2026 rankings)
the quality of student is T30/35. While Emory, Georgetown are technically T25, but quality of student is T20.


lol

UCLA avg sat is a 1340


Not sure about Georgetown, but Emory admits a crazy almost 40% without test scores. I wonder what the average is there? Hmmm

It does not 67% of students submit test scores to Emory last year , class of 2029. Class of 2028 was 63%. For this year's class expect 70% or more. With that said 67% submitted is more than all of Emorys peers besides Georgetown. Vanderbilt is what I would consider low with only 50% submitted.


Class of 2028 Submitting SAT Scores 43% 623 Submitting ACT Scores 20% 286
Emory doesn't disclose how many of the 43% SAT or 20% ACT submitted both ACT and SAT so were counted twice for having submitted test scores. So the number I suspect is higher than even the 37% of the total class that did not submit scores.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Several public schools are T20 universities (UC Berkeley, UCLA and UMich) (2026 rankings)
the quality of student is T30/35. While Emory, Georgetown are technically T25, but quality of student is T20.


lol

UCLA avg sat is a 1340


Not sure about Georgetown, but Emory admits a crazy almost 40% without test scores. I wonder what the average is there? Hmmm


Georgetown is test required and you must submit every single test you have taken from both the SAT and ACT. A lot different than a test optional school like Emory.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Several public schools are T20 universities (UC Berkeley, UCLA and UMich) (2026 rankings)
the quality of student is T30/35. While Emory, Georgetown are technically T25, but quality of student is T20.


lol

UCLA avg sat is a 1340


You genuinely don’t know what the average SAT is for a test blind school that stopped publishing this information like 6 years ago.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:To get into most state flagships like UT Austin or UVA, you need top academics, leadership experience, heavy involvement during the summer, volunteering, and more. What extra things do students do to get into top 20 universities?




They have parents with money.

Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Several public schools are T20 universities (UC Berkeley, UCLA and UMich) (2026 rankings)
the quality of student is T30/35. While Emory, Georgetown are technically T25, but quality of student is T20.


lol

UCLA avg sat is a 1340


You genuinely don’t know what the average SAT is for a test blind school that stopped publishing this information like 6 years ago.


Same with a school that accepts well over 30 -40% test optional. At that point any median is smoke and mirrors.
Anonymous
An activity with impact. Genuine passion. LOR.
Top rigor.
Awards but not necessary

These are my guesses.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:To get into most state flagships like UT Austin or UVA, you need top academics, leadership experience, heavy involvement during the summer, volunteering, and more. What extra things do students do to get into top 20 universities?


There are plenty of kids who prefer going to a state flagship over "T20" for the broader academic and extracurricular offerings.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:To get into most state flagships like UT Austin or UVA, you need top academics, leadership experience, heavy involvement during the summer, volunteering, and more. What extra things do students do to get into top 20 universities?


There are plenty of kids who prefer going to a state flagship over "T20" for the broader academic and extracurricular offerings.


"T20" is not really a thing. It's really just mentioned by the insecure on this board. There is Ivy and one could say a Top 10 but after that there are just lot of great schools with great programs of specific interest many of which are difficult to gain admission. IMHO, If schools are Test Required and have acceptance rates below say 14% then those generally are the best schools that have some of the brightest in the country attending. No one, especially employers, need any random publication that differs from other publications to tell them this. It's known
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