Lindsey Vonn

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Anonymous wrote:I hope she's okay. I haven't seen an update on her condition after this latest crash.


Swiss TV reported lower leg fracture

I hope her spine, neck and head are okay. A leg will heal.


I've had multiple orthopedic spine surgeries from an accident not even remotely as bad as her fall. Greed and hubris are a bad combination.
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My Dad played competitive sports and live his life a with no ACL - they didn't know what it was in the 70s.
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Anonymous wrote:My Dad played competitive sports and live his life a with no ACL - they didn't know what it was in the 70s.


Good for him? What is your point?
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Anonymous wrote:Anyone else annoyed that Vonn is competing with her destroyed knee? Why not give the next generation a chance? She must know she can’t medal in this state so why not pass the torch and be a mentor to younger skiers? Admittedly I also just generally don’t like her between dating Tiger Woods and her childish social media spat with Mikaela Shiffrin. At this point competing seems like another publicity stunt.


I agree she needs to just bow out. She's just being selfish, imo. Not only taking up another spot but another spot where maybe they can medal. She won't medal, if I had to bet.

If she wants to put her own body at risk, that's a her choice. But she's also representing the US and she doesn't have the "right" to continue in this condition.


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Anonymous wrote:Vonn is a certified moron. Wtf was she allowed to hog a spot on the team. 42 and on an artifical knee and a torn acl.

So stupid. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. Her hubris got in the way of common sense.


I like her but I agree with this. And now her injury is over shading Breezy’s win. CNN devoted about 5 minutes to Vonn’s fall then did a quick mention about Johnson’s medal at the end.


Lindsey is beloved around the world. She’s been on the WC for decades. She was in the midst of an incredible (comeback) season. She deserves the attention. So does Breezy!
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Vonn is a certified moron. Wtf was she allowed to hog a spot on the team. 42 and on an artifical knee and a torn acl.

So stupid. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. Her hubris got in the way of common sense.


Yeah, that never happened before. Veteran Olympian qualifying and being allowed to compete. Shocking.


THIS x100

Oh yes, she qualified alright.....probably qualified for disability after this accident.

Idiots like you are enablers that allows disasters like this to happen. She is so past her prime and has zero knees.

Played a stupid game and won the stupid prize. Americans get to enjoy watching her on TV screaming in agony. So cool she "qualified".



Most of the Olympic downhill skiers have zero knees left. Also her accident was unrelated to her knee. She hooked a gate with her shoulder.
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Anonymous wrote:Wouldn't it be nice if any part of the broadcasts had focused on Breezy?


Yes they barely mentioned Breezy at all, always panning to Vonn before her run. And all the ads are Vonn, which are now painful to watch. I hope she is ok.


Well part of that might be for uncomfortable reasons - had a drug testing whereabouts failure. There's no way NBC is going to prop up a slight underdog in a fairly niche sport with these allegations over her.

https://www.usada.org/sanction/breezy-johnson-accepts-whereabouts-sanction/


Omg this is old & has been address led publicly by breezy & also Mikaela (who agrees the drug testing is super restrictive)
Anonymous
She took an incredibly aggressive line, probably based on how badly she wanted to win- she was willing to risk it all.
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Anonymous wrote:Wouldn't it be nice if any part of the broadcasts had focused on Breezy?


Yes they barely mentioned Breezy at all, always panning to Vonn before her run. And all the ads are Vonn, which are now painful to watch. I hope she is ok.


Well part of that might be for uncomfortable reasons - had a drug testing whereabouts failure. There's no way NBC is going to prop up a slight underdog in a fairly niche sport with these allegations over her.

https://www.usada.org/sanction/breezy-johnson-accepts-whereabouts-sanction/


Omg this is old & has been address led publicly by breezy & also Mikaela (who agrees the drug testing is super restrictive)


It's an issue for every single Olympic athlete. I'm a huge T & F fan and wherabouts failures are a major red flag.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Wouldn't it be nice if any part of the broadcasts had focused on Breezy?


Yes they barely mentioned Breezy at all, always panning to Vonn before her run. And all the ads are Vonn, which are now painful to watch. I hope she is ok.


Well part of that might be for uncomfortable reasons - had a drug testing whereabouts failure. There's no way NBC is going to prop up a slight underdog in a fairly niche sport with these allegations over her.

https://www.usada.org/sanction/breezy-johnson-accepts-whereabouts-sanction/


Omg this is old & has been address led publicly by breezy & also Mikaela (who agrees the drug testing is super restrictive)


Everyone should watch Michael Phelps Congressional testimony on Olympic drug testing then come on back here to talk about Breezy.
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Putting the ACL aside, Lindsey clearly went out intending to win, and she tried to do it in the first 10 seconds by taking a tighter, more direct line than anyone else. In hindsight, it was a questionable tactical decision. We had already seen from several racers before her that you could be ahead of Breezy through the first half of the course, but those early splits weren’t translating into podium runs. The course set and conditions suggested that the race would be decided in the final third, where maintaining speed and line through the flatter, more technical sections mattered most.

By attacking so aggressively at the top, she effectively bet on gaining a decisive advantage early rather than building the run progressively. That approach increased risk without offering much strategic upside given how the course was skiing.

Unfortunately, the combination of bold tactics and her trademark willingness to push the limits, qualities that defined her entire career, didn’t align with what this race required.
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Anonymous wrote:A lot of Vonn's sponsorship money is contingent on her racing. I don't think it's realistic to assume she made this decision without serious pressure from big name sponsors who had spent money making a bunch of ads heavily featuring Vonn and didn't want to have to run them during an olympics where she wasn't even competing.


Well watching her commercials all day today after her crash was not great. The commercials should’ve been pulled.


Wasn’t one of Vonn’s commercials in the lead-up to the Olympics comparing injuries in the line of duty with Scarlett Johansson?
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I give her credit for taking a risk.
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Anonymous wrote:Putting the ACL aside, Lindsey clearly went out intending to win, and she tried to do it in the first 10 seconds by taking a tighter, more direct line than anyone else. In hindsight, it was a questionable tactical decision. We had already seen from several racers before her that you could be ahead of Breezy through the first half of the course, but those early splits weren’t translating into podium runs. The course set and conditions suggested that the race would be decided in the final third, where maintaining speed and line through the flatter, more technical sections mattered most.

By attacking so aggressively at the top, she effectively bet on gaining a decisive advantage early rather than building the run progressively. That approach increased risk without offering much strategic upside given how the course was skiing.

Unfortunately, the combination of bold tactics and her trademark willingness to push the limits, qualities that defined her entire career, didn’t align with what this race required.


Breezy herself took a much more conservative approach through the top third of the course and did not look on her way to a gold medal run at that point, but then had an extremely technically skillful remainder.

I thought it was interesting after Breezy's successful run, demonstrating this approach, that Vonn chose instead to try and attack the top of the course aggressively.

Jackie Wiles, the third American in the final, took a similar approach to Breezy and finished 4th, her best Olympic finish ever. Wiles also had the best time on the hill during her Friday training run. I also want to note that Wiles is not some kid -- she's 34 and this is her third Olympics.

This isn't a knock on Vonn's approach, she's obviously one of the best women's downhill skiers of all time and she's going to know better than me what she should do. But given the hill conditions and Breezy's success, I wonder what motivated Vonn to try and attack the top of the hill so aggressively? Was she worried that she wouldn't be able to ski as cleanly later in the course as Breezy and others were, due to her injury, so felt she needed to open up a lead early? Or was it a decision made independently of the current standings or how other skiers had skied, and based entirely on her own instincts based on her training run? Impossible to know, but just interesting to me that of the three American women, Vonn was the only one who chose to go after the top of the course the way she did, and the other two women had career best outcomes.
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Anonymous wrote:I give her credit for taking a risk.


+1

I hope it will bring her peace during her recovery
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