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Anonymous wrote:Everyone so angry here (though I suspect it’s really only one person) is about to be absolutely shattered when their kids go to a top college, more than half the class is on aid, and may don’t pay a dime, including some “Pellionaires,” who are also getting federal aid.

College aid is completely different.

First of all, K-12 is offered completely free through public schools. Private is a luxury option.


Financial aid at private schools in the DMV is largely funded by tuition paid for by the other parents. There is no large endowment to cover these expenses. The full pay families are paying the majority of the financial aid budget. For a luxury education.

You can go to community college and transfer to a public four-year for a fraction of the price of private. A tiny fraction. Private college is absolutely as luxurious as private undergrad. And private college aid funds living expenses too.

Many top privates have substantial endowments. And many colleges that don’t have huge endowments are doing insane and inequitable discounting through sophisticated enrollment management algorithms.

Not the same at all. Roughly 90% of K-12 students attend public school. Completely free. Financial aid is really not needed for K-12.

About 73% of college students attend a public university, including community college, which is significantly cheaper than a private university. If this bothers you at the K-12 level it’s going to infuriate you at the tertiary level too.

K-12 and college are completely different. Just stop.

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Anonymous wrote:Everyone so angry here (though I suspect it’s really only one person) is about to be absolutely shattered when their kids go to a top college, more than half the class is on aid, and may don’t pay a dime, including some “Pellionaires,” who are also getting federal aid.

College aid is completely different.

First of all, K-12 is offered completely free through public schools. Private is a luxury option.


Financial aid at private schools in the DMV is largely funded by tuition paid for by the other parents. There is no large endowment to cover these expenses. The full pay families are paying the majority of the financial aid budget. For a luxury education.

You can go to community college and transfer to a public four-year for a fraction of the price of private. A tiny fraction. Private college is absolutely as luxurious as private undergrad. And private college aid funds living expenses too.

Many top privates have substantial endowments. And many colleges that don’t have huge endowments are doing insane and inequitable discounting through sophisticated enrollment management algorithms.

Not the same at all. Roughly 90% of K-12 students attend public school. Completely free. Financial aid is really not needed for K-12.

About 73% of college students attend a public university, including community college, which is significantly cheaper than a private university. If this bothers you at the K-12 level it’s going to infuriate you at the tertiary level too.

K-12 and college are completely different. Just stop.

The main difference being college is primarily funded by loans taken out in the child’s name, which are not available for K-12. There is no comparison.

[Anonymous]

A lot of people find OP to be irresponsible, unethical, and shameful. For the people who find this acceptable, how were you raised?

[Anonymous]

I kind of appreciate that OP posted this. It’s “the quiet part out loud.” Many people paying full tuition either are not aware or are in denial that financial aid is going to upper income families. When they think of financial aid they think of giving to charity, of filling food pantries and donating toys to tots. They need to know that that’s not what is happening, so they can make an informed choice about whether to keep supporting this system.

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Anonymous wrote:Everyone so angry here (though I suspect it’s really only one person) is about to be absolutely shattered when their kids go to a top college, more than half the class is on aid, and may don’t pay a dime, including some “Pellionaires,” who are also getting federal aid.

College aid is completely different.

First of all, K-12 is offered completely free through public schools. Private is a luxury option.


Financial aid at private schools in the DMV is largely funded by tuition paid for by the other parents. There is no large endowment to cover these expenses. The full pay families are paying the majority of the financial aid budget. For a luxury education.

You can go to community college and transfer to a public four-year for a fraction of the price of private. A tiny fraction. Private college is absolutely as luxurious as private undergrad. And private college aid funds living expenses too.

Many top privates have substantial endowments. And many colleges that don’t have huge endowments are doing insane and inequitable discounting through sophisticated enrollment management algorithms.

Not the same at all. Roughly 90% of K-12 students attend public school. Completely free. Financial aid is really not needed for K-12.

About 73% of college students attend a public university, including community college, which is significantly cheaper than a private university. If this bothers you at the K-12 level it’s going to infuriate you at the tertiary level too.

K-12 and college are completely different. Just stop.

The main difference being college is primarily funded by loans taken out in the child’s name, which are not available for K-12. There is no comparison.

And this shows you don’t understand the college financial landscape. Good private universities these days regularly meet 100% of demonstrated financial need. Kids from families making up to $300k are getting aid these days at expensive private colleges.

But more relevant to the point is that when it comes to busybodies’ anger over financial aid, they really aren’t different at all. Go to the college forum. There are people regularly complaining about their kids’ roommates getting aid and having nicer things than their own kid. And you’ll see these posters lamenting that the FA kids didn’t go to community college where they clearly belong.

If you are overly invested in other people’s lives now, that isn’t going to suddenly change when your kid turns 19.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:A lot of people find OP to be irresponsible, unethical, and shameful. For the people who find this acceptable, how were you raised?

Like a normal person, not a maladjusted weirdo who comments repeatedly on internet threads about a topic they know nothing about (because you aren’t a DMV full pay private school parent, let’s be clear).

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Anonymous wrote:A lot of people find OP to be irresponsible, unethical, and shameful. For the people who find this acceptable, how were you raised?

Like a normal person, not a maladjusted weirdo who comments repeatedly on internet threads about a topic they know nothing about (because you aren’t a DMV full pay private school parent, let’s be clear).

I have 3 kids, full pay, here and am deeply bothered by OP.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I kind of appreciate that OP posted this. It’s “the quiet part out loud.” Many people paying full tuition either are not aware or are in denial that financial aid is going to upper income families. When they think of financial aid they think of giving to charity, of filling food pantries and donating toys to tots. They need to know that that’s not what is happening, so they can make an informed choice about whether to keep supporting this system.

Well of course they know. They support the way their school does FA. They want to say their school has FA but they don’t actually want poor kids at their school so giving a little FA to many families that make mid-six figures and up works for them.

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Anonymous wrote:Everyone so angry here (though I suspect it’s really only one person) is about to be absolutely shattered when their kids go to a top college, more than half the class is on aid, and may don’t pay a dime, including some “Pellionaires,” who are also getting federal aid.

College aid is completely different.

First of all, K-12 is offered completely free through public schools. Private is a luxury option.


Financial aid at private schools in the DMV is largely funded by tuition paid for by the other parents. There is no large endowment to cover these expenses. The full pay families are paying the majority of the financial aid budget. For a luxury education.

You can go to community college and transfer to a public four-year for a fraction of the price of private. A tiny fraction. Private college is absolutely as luxurious as private undergrad. And private college aid funds living expenses too.

Many top privates have substantial endowments. And many colleges that don’t have huge endowments are doing insane and inequitable discounting through sophisticated enrollment management algorithms.

Not the same at all. Roughly 90% of K-12 students attend public school. Completely free. Financial aid is really not needed for K-12.

About 73% of college students attend a public university, including community college, which is significantly cheaper than a private university. If this bothers you at the K-12 level it’s going to infuriate you at the tertiary level too.

K-12 and college are completely different. Just stop.

The main difference being college is primarily funded by loans taken out in the child’s name, which are not available for K-12. There is no comparison.

And this shows you don’t understand the college financial landscape. Good private universities these days regularly meet 100% of demonstrated financial need. Kids from families making up to $300k are getting aid these days at expensive private colleges.

But more relevant to the point is that when it comes to busybodies’ anger over financial aid, they really aren’t different at all. Go to the college forum. There are people regularly complaining about their kids’ roommates getting aid and having nicer things than their own kid. And you’ll see these posters lamenting that the FA kids didn’t go to community college where they clearly belong.

If you are overly invested in other people’s lives now, that isn’t going to suddenly change when your kid turns 19.

You are the one who doesn’t understand colleges. The percent of private universities that do this is tiny. For the majority, this is not a thing.

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Anonymous wrote:Everyone so angry here (though I suspect it’s really only one person) is about to be absolutely shattered when their kids go to a top college, more than half the class is on aid, and may don’t pay a dime, including some “Pellionaires,” who are also getting federal aid.

College aid is completely different.

First of all, K-12 is offered completely free through public schools. Private is a luxury option.


Financial aid at private schools in the DMV is largely funded by tuition paid for by the other parents. There is no large endowment to cover these expenses. The full pay families are paying the majority of the financial aid budget. For a luxury education.

You can go to community college and transfer to a public four-year for a fraction of the price of private. A tiny fraction. Private college is absolutely as luxurious as private undergrad. And private college aid funds living expenses too.

Many top privates have substantial endowments. And many colleges that don’t have huge endowments are doing insane and inequitable discounting through sophisticated enrollment management algorithms.

Not the same at all. Roughly 90% of K-12 students attend public school. Completely free. Financial aid is really not needed for K-12.

About 73% of college students attend a public university, including community college, which is significantly cheaper than a private university. If this bothers you at the K-12 level it’s going to infuriate you at the tertiary level too.

K-12 and college are completely different. Just stop.

The main difference being college is primarily funded by loans taken out in the child’s name, which are not available for K-12. There is no comparison.

And this shows you don’t understand the college financial landscape. Good private universities these days regularly meet 100% of demonstrated financial need. Kids from families making up to $300k are getting aid these days at expensive private colleges.

But more relevant to the point is that when it comes to busybodies’ anger over financial aid, they really aren’t different at all. Go to the college forum. There are people regularly complaining about their kids’ roommates getting aid and having nicer things than their own kid. And you’ll see these posters lamenting that the FA kids didn’t go to community college where they clearly belong.

If you are overly invested in other people’s lives now, that isn’t going to suddenly change when your kid turns 19.

You are the one who doesn’t understand colleges. The percent of private universities that do this is tiny. For the majority, this is not a thing.

It is common at any T50 private university, and even some T100. At the top end they even go beyond to giving full packages to $200k families. If you attend a DMV independent high school, you are aiming for, and expecting, these schools. No one cares about the rest.

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Anonymous wrote:Everyone so angry here (though I suspect it’s really only one person) is about to be absolutely shattered when their kids go to a top college, more than half the class is on aid, and may don’t pay a dime, including some “Pellionaires,” who are also getting federal aid.

College aid is completely different.

First of all, K-12 is offered completely free through public schools. Private is a luxury option.


Financial aid at private schools in the DMV is largely funded by tuition paid for by the other parents. There is no large endowment to cover these expenses. The full pay families are paying the majority of the financial aid budget. For a luxury education.

You can go to community college and transfer to a public four-year for a fraction of the price of private. A tiny fraction. Private college is absolutely as luxurious as private undergrad. And private college aid funds living expenses too.

Many top privates have substantial endowments. And many colleges that don’t have huge endowments are doing insane and inequitable discounting through sophisticated enrollment management algorithms.

Not the same at all. Roughly 90% of K-12 students attend public school. Completely free. Financial aid is really not needed for K-12.

About 73% of college students attend a public university, including community college, which is significantly cheaper than a private university. If this bothers you at the K-12 level it’s going to infuriate you at the tertiary level too.

K-12 and college are completely different. Just stop.

The main difference being college is primarily funded by loans taken out in the child’s name, which are not available for K-12. There is no comparison.

And this shows you don’t understand the college financial landscape. Good private universities these days regularly meet 100% of demonstrated financial need. Kids from families making up to $300k are getting aid these days at expensive private colleges.

But more relevant to the point is that when it comes to busybodies’ anger over financial aid, they really aren’t different at all. Go to the college forum. There are people regularly complaining about their kids’ roommates getting aid and having nicer things than their own kid. And you’ll see these posters lamenting that the FA kids didn’t go to community college where they clearly belong.

If you are overly invested in other people’s lives now, that isn’t going to suddenly change when your kid turns 19.

You are the one who doesn’t understand colleges. The percent of private universities that do this is tiny. For the majority, this is not a thing.

It is common at any T50 private university, and even some T100. At the top end they even go beyond to giving full packages to $200k families. If you attend a DMV independent high school, you are aiming for, and expecting, these schools. No one cares about the rest.

No, it doesn’t extend to all the T50 or T100. Also, lots of people care about the rest. To say otherwise is the height of stupidity.

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Anonymous wrote:Everyone so angry here (though I suspect it’s really only one person) is about to be absolutely shattered when their kids go to a top college, more than half the class is on aid, and may don’t pay a dime, including some “Pellionaires,” who are also getting federal aid.

College aid is completely different.

First of all, K-12 is offered completely free through public schools. Private is a luxury option.


Financial aid at private schools in the DMV is largely funded by tuition paid for by the other parents. There is no large endowment to cover these expenses. The full pay families are paying the majority of the financial aid budget. For a luxury education.

You can go to community college and transfer to a public four-year for a fraction of the price of private. A tiny fraction. Private college is absolutely as luxurious as private undergrad. And private college aid funds living expenses too.

Many top privates have substantial endowments. And many colleges that don’t have huge endowments are doing insane and inequitable discounting through sophisticated enrollment management algorithms.

Not the same at all. Roughly 90% of K-12 students attend public school. Completely free. Financial aid is really not needed for K-12.

About 73% of college students attend a public university, including community college, which is significantly cheaper than a private university. If this bothers you at the K-12 level it’s going to infuriate you at the tertiary level too.

K-12 and college are completely different. Just stop.

The main difference being college is primarily funded by loans taken out in the child’s name, which are not available for K-12. There is no comparison.

And this shows you don’t understand the college financial landscape. Good private universities these days regularly meet 100% of demonstrated financial need. Kids from families making up to $300k are getting aid these days at expensive private colleges.

But more relevant to the point is that when it comes to busybodies’ anger over financial aid, they really aren’t different at all. Go to the college forum. There are people regularly complaining about their kids’ roommates getting aid and having nicer things than their own kid. And you’ll see these posters lamenting that the FA kids didn’t go to community college where they clearly belong.

If you are overly invested in other people’s lives now, that isn’t going to suddenly change when your kid turns 19.

You are the one who doesn’t understand colleges. The percent of private universities that do this is tiny. For the majority, this is not a thing.

It is common at any T50 private university, and even some T100. At the top end they even go beyond to giving full packages to $200k families. If you attend a DMV independent high school, you are aiming for, and expecting, these schools. No one cares about the rest.

Not so. A tiny percentage of private colleges and universities are need blind. Most are not, and families (including those making well under $300k) take out loans.

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I have a question for OP: do you plan to repay the generous financial aid that you are receiving for your 3 kids?

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Anonymous wrote:As a teacher who left a Big 3 school after over a decade of service because we could not afford to send our children there, suffice it to say that there is a lot about this that pisses me off.

Why? You would have gotten FA.

We applied and did not get any. And no tuition remission.

Then clearly your HHI or assets are quite high.

Nope.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I read this thread and there has to absolutely be a troll who has frequented other threads about FA. I can’t imagine so many different rude posters. If not, can you share where you send your kids, so I make sure to cross those schools off my list?

Yep...

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