Olivia Nuzzi on her relationship with RFK Jr.

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Anonymous wrote:Also, it may take a while to load, so be a little patient. Let me know if you still can't listen.

I'm listening to it and it does go off as you said but I'm the poster who's only a few years older than Olivia and this is...extremely weird to have been recorded in 2010.

If you said the late 90s/early 2000s when Britney was doing her slutty schoolgirl shtick I could believe it but this is just like straight up weird for several people to have signed off on a minor singing 15 years ago.

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Anonymous wrote:Do you guys think Olivia lurks here? This is a D.C. forum, after all.

You wish someone famous cared about your online rantings. I'm the poster who thinks Olivia Nuzzi owes zero apologies. I don't need to be Olivia Nuzzi to applaud her for not letting herself be another ran-through 30-something with nothing to show for the older men who exploited her. If someone's depraved vampire of a husband goes around exploiting young women, he deserves to get taken for everything he has. I hope her next book is a tell-all about the Hollywood limp d!ck adulterers she has known biblically. They deserve to be shamed and mocked.

You're acting like Olivia's only crime was sleeping with older men. She violated journalist ethics. She's a loser.

Yea, I'm sure you're all broken up about journalistic ethics. Honey, the only thing more tired and stupid than a hater is a lying hater dressing up envy as a moral objection. Make an early resolution that 2026 will be the year you quit hating.

Put the phone down, Olivia. You look like handsome Squidward. Maybe use some of the money you got from Keith to get jaw reconstruction surgery.

Your commitment to journalistic ethics is really showing there. You're totally not a deranged hater for insulting Olivia Nuzzi's looks because I hurt your feelings. Psycho.

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Anonymous wrote:Do you guys think Olivia lurks here? This is a D.C. forum, after all.

You wish someone famous cared about your online rantings. I'm the poster who thinks Olivia Nuzzi owes zero apologies. I don't need to be Olivia Nuzzi to applaud her for not letting herself be another ran-through 30-something with nothing to show for the older men who exploited her. If someone's depraved vampire of a husband goes around exploiting young women, he deserves to get taken for everything he has. I hope her next book is a tell-all about the Hollywood limp d!ck adulterers she has known biblically. They deserve to be shamed and mocked.

You're acting like Olivia's only crime was sleeping with older men. She violated journalist ethics. She's a loser.

Yea, I'm sure you're all broken up about journalistic ethics. Honey, the only thing more tired and stupid than a hater is a lying hater dressing up envy as a moral objection. Make an early resolution that 2026 will be the year you quit hating.

Put the phone down, Olivia. You look like handsome Squidward. Maybe use some of the money you got from Keith to get jaw reconstruction surgery.

Your commitment to journalistic ethics is really showing there. You're totally not a deranged hater for insulting Olivia Nuzzi's looks because I hurt your feelings. Psycho.

What does my post have to do with or not with journalistic ethics? Take a break, Robert Zdar.

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Anonymous wrote:Do you guys think Olivia lurks here? This is a D.C. forum, after all.

You wish someone famous cared about your online rantings. I'm the poster who thinks Olivia Nuzzi owes zero apologies. I don't need to be Olivia Nuzzi to applaud her for not letting herself be another ran-through 30-something with nothing to show for the older men who exploited her. If someone's depraved vampire of a husband goes around exploiting young women, he deserves to get taken for everything he has. I hope her next book is a tell-all about the Hollywood limp d!ck adulterers she has known biblically. They deserve to be shamed and mocked.

You're acting like Olivia's only crime was sleeping with older men. She violated journalist ethics. She's a loser.

Yea, I'm sure you're all broken up about journalistic ethics. Honey, the only thing more tired and stupid than a hater is a lying hater dressing up envy as a moral objection. Make an early resolution that 2026 will be the year you quit hating.

Put the phone down, Olivia. You look like handsome Squidward. Maybe use some of the money you got from Keith to get jaw reconstruction surgery.

Your commitment to journalistic ethics is really showing there. You're totally not a deranged hater for insulting Olivia Nuzzi's looks because I hurt your feelings. Psycho.

Livvy can you comment on why your parents let you sing a song about f ucking adult men when you were a high school junior and do you think that led to the fact that you seemingly can't get aroused unless your sex partner is old enough for a shingles vax?

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Anonymous wrote:Oh my god, Olivia Nuzzi had another affair with another 30+ older man.

Here's the original reveal from her ex, Ryan Lizza: https://www.telos.news/p/part-1-how-i-found-out

Lol. Ryan is a messy b-tch for this and he definitely hasn't moved on.

I enjoyed reading Ryan’s piece, it’s always helpful to get the other side of the story. But this guy doesn’t get a pass from me. Nuzzi was messy af. But Lizza and Nuzzi were both clout-chasers who mutually benefited from each other’s looks, position, and access. Lizza unfortunately miscalculated that Olivia would try to level up eventually; something that was obvious to anybody who knew about the Olberman history. Nuzzi was (is) a creature for whom lifeblood is attention and death is irrelevance. Each jump to next rock was a more powerful guy, no matter how gross. This makes sense when you realize that the guy isn’t a guy, he’s a path to survival. Nuzzi’s writing skills are always presented as some sort of defense of her actions; as if being skilled at something, anything, somehow reorients the moral framework around which choices should be made. She’s a good writer. She also decided rules of journalism didn’t apply to her. That’s a problem. She’s odd person to lionize until you realize that the media folks writing about her in the press, defending her on X, and giving her book deals are men. It sounds too simple and dumb to be an explanation, but everyone still scratches their heads about how Elizabeth Holmes scammed investors out of millions of dollars.

No matter how compelling Lizza’s version of of events is, or how true, his piece reads as no more or less interesting than the story of any other guy smarting from losing the girl at the end of the movie. Juxtaposing his history with Nuzzi with the inclusion of his over the top love for his latest girlfriend is like that guy you go out on a date with who can’t stop talking about his ex: “you’re so beautiful! Also my ex was such a B, lemme tell you more about her”.

Being betrayed absolutely sucks and I’ve been there. But all of these people suffer from main character syndrome. There’s nothing extraordinary about a middle-aged guy’s 20-something girlfriend figuring out that there was a quicker elevator to the penthouse. Lizza is human, and deserving of empathy. But he ain’t special. My college roommate got dumped for an AP, and we got drunk, stalked her SM, then got up the next day and moved on with our lives. These folks should do the same.

Admittedly I didn't read all of this, but if you agree that Ryan Lizza is a nasty, greedy little b-tch for trying to turn his ex-girlfriend's saga into a come-up for himself while pretending to be above it all, then we agree.

Oh yes, we concur. I loved the part where he describes her angling for a wedding while he politely demures. Nothing says “I never wanted her” like a long-form article spilling all the deets a full year later.

YES. That part was a complete own goal on his part. Nothing says duplicitous snake like posing as the blindsided innocent victimized by a man-eating bimbo while admitting you led her on with no intention of marrying her. She was supposed to stay loyal to a man who was knowingly wasting what he knew she considered her prime marriageable years?

And the money-hungry, deeply envious way he catalogs the items she received from Olbermann is creepy as hell. He sounds a lot like an envious female competitor -- as if his real cause of his anger is that he isn't a woman who has the looks and game to attract financial and career support from successful older men.

I have no sympathy for Ryan Lizza given that there were numerous red flags he was either too stupid to see or too stupid to heed. But I don't think it counts as leading her on if she was cheating on him the entire time.

They are both odious people. But he is just a sad pathetic old man and she's likely mentally ill.

It most definitely does count as leading her on. He was consciously leading her on while smugly thinking he was denying her marriage, without realizing that she was also leading him on. That makes him both a gaping azzhole and a moron, not a victim.

I choose to give him the benefit of the doubt here. He was recently divorced and much older than her, meanwhile she kept going on and on about how she had to get married by 30. He then goes on to say she was pressuring him to plan the wedding. That would make a lot of guys feel like she wanted to get married just for the sake of getting married. Perhaps it was less that he wanted to string her along and deny her marriage but more that he wanted to make sure it was the real deal. Rushing into marriage is always a terrible idea, especially if one partner wants to do it just to say they had a wedding and did it by a certain age.

I am certainly no Ryan Lizza fan but I think you are reading too much into his comments about not being ready to discuss marriage. He has a ton of flaws - he's a middle aged simp who ignored dozens of red flags in a woman half his age, he stayed with her after the first affair, he seems deeply insecure - but I think not wanting to rush into marriage so his 28 year old gf can have a wedding is not one of them.

In some ways I wonder if he didn't want to get married bc the part of him that knew he was in denial about how toxic Olivia was had doubts.

Why exactly would you choose to give the benefit of the doubt to a 50-something year old loser leading on a woman almost half his age, but deride the woman as "toxic"? Some of you really don't know how to think before you post. How do you not feel like an idiot writing a three-paragraph defense of a mouth breather who is staring down 60 and still too immature and vindictive to avoid writing hit pieces on exes? What would it take for you not to fall to your knees before a man? Internalized misogyny is a mofo.

This thread is so irritating because I don't even give a crap about this woman, but I'm so sick of the toxic stupidity of so many of my fellow women who can excuse anything a man does but can't froth and foam hard enough at the chance to take down another woman. When will you crabs get it together and stop envying other women so that women have a fighting chance in this society? Men will stand rock solid behind literal serial rapists and multi-victim pedophiles, but a woman has a phone situationship with a man and you all think she should go hungry in the streets. The way you throw away other women is why you're so expendable too. When will you get that? Just dumb.

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Anonymous wrote:Do you guys think Olivia lurks here? This is a D.C. forum, after all.

You wish someone famous cared about your online rantings. I'm the poster who thinks Olivia Nuzzi owes zero apologies. I don't need to be Olivia Nuzzi to applaud her for not letting herself be another ran-through 30-something with nothing to show for the older men who exploited her. If someone's depraved vampire of a husband goes around exploiting young women, he deserves to get taken for everything he has. I hope her next book is a tell-all about the Hollywood limp d!ck adulterers she has known biblically. They deserve to be shamed and mocked.

You're acting like Olivia's only crime was sleeping with older men. She violated journalist ethics. She's a loser.

Yea, I'm sure you're all broken up about journalistic ethics. Honey, the only thing more tired and stupid than a hater is a lying hater dressing up envy as a moral objection. Make an early resolution that 2026 will be the year you quit hating.

Put the phone down, Olivia. You look like handsome Squidward. Maybe use some of the money you got from Keith to get jaw reconstruction surgery.

Your commitment to journalistic ethics is really showing there. You're totally not a deranged hater for insulting Olivia Nuzzi's looks because I hurt your feelings. Psycho.

Livvy can you comment on why your parents let you sing a song about f ucking adult men when you were a high school junior and do you think that led to the fact that you seemingly can't get aroused unless your sex partner is old enough for a shingles vax?

Ok, loser, I guess you really did something pretending a stranger on a message board is Olivia Nuzzi.

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Anonymous wrote:Oh my god, Olivia Nuzzi had another affair with another 30+ older man.

Here's the original reveal from her ex, Ryan Lizza: https://www.telos.news/p/part-1-how-i-found-out

Lol. Ryan is a messy b-tch for this and he definitely hasn't moved on.

I enjoyed reading Ryan’s piece, it’s always helpful to get the other side of the story. But this guy doesn’t get a pass from me. Nuzzi was messy af. But Lizza and Nuzzi were both clout-chasers who mutually benefited from each other’s looks, position, and access. Lizza unfortunately miscalculated that Olivia would try to level up eventually; something that was obvious to anybody who knew about the Olberman history. Nuzzi was (is) a creature for whom lifeblood is attention and death is irrelevance. Each jump to next rock was a more powerful guy, no matter how gross. This makes sense when you realize that the guy isn’t a guy, he’s a path to survival. Nuzzi’s writing skills are always presented as some sort of defense of her actions; as if being skilled at something, anything, somehow reorients the moral framework around which choices should be made. She’s a good writer. She also decided rules of journalism didn’t apply to her. That’s a problem. She’s odd person to lionize until you realize that the media folks writing about her in the press, defending her on X, and giving her book deals are men. It sounds too simple and dumb to be an explanation, but everyone still scratches their heads about how Elizabeth Holmes scammed investors out of millions of dollars.

No matter how compelling Lizza’s version of of events is, or how true, his piece reads as no more or less interesting than the story of any other guy smarting from losing the girl at the end of the movie. Juxtaposing his history with Nuzzi with the inclusion of his over the top love for his latest girlfriend is like that guy you go out on a date with who can’t stop talking about his ex: “you’re so beautiful! Also my ex was such a B, lemme tell you more about her”.

Being betrayed absolutely sucks and I’ve been there. But all of these people suffer from main character syndrome. There’s nothing extraordinary about a middle-aged guy’s 20-something girlfriend figuring out that there was a quicker elevator to the penthouse. Lizza is human, and deserving of empathy. But he ain’t special. My college roommate got dumped for an AP, and we got drunk, stalked her SM, then got up the next day and moved on with our lives. These folks should do the same.

Admittedly I didn't read all of this, but if you agree that Ryan Lizza is a nasty, greedy little b-tch for trying to turn his ex-girlfriend's saga into a come-up for himself while pretending to be above it all, then we agree.

Oh yes, we concur. I loved the part where he describes her angling for a wedding while he politely demures. Nothing says “I never wanted her” like a long-form article spilling all the deets a full year later.

YES. That part was a complete own goal on his part. Nothing says duplicitous snake like posing as the blindsided innocent victimized by a man-eating bimbo while admitting you led her on with no intention of marrying her. She was supposed to stay loyal to a man who was knowingly wasting what he knew she considered her prime marriageable years?

And the money-hungry, deeply envious way he catalogs the items she received from Olbermann is creepy as hell. He sounds a lot like an envious female competitor -- as if his real cause of his anger is that he isn't a woman who has the looks and game to attract financial and career support from successful older men.

I have no sympathy for Ryan Lizza given that there were numerous red flags he was either too stupid to see or too stupid to heed. But I don't think it counts as leading her on if she was cheating on him the entire time.

They are both odious people. But he is just a sad pathetic old man and she's likely mentally ill.

It most definitely does count as leading her on. He was consciously leading her on while smugly thinking he was denying her marriage, without realizing that she was also leading him on. That makes him both a gaping azzhole and a moron, not a victim.

I choose to give him the benefit of the doubt here. He was recently divorced and much older than her, meanwhile she kept going on and on about how she had to get married by 30. He then goes on to say she was pressuring him to plan the wedding. That would make a lot of guys feel like she wanted to get married just for the sake of getting married. Perhaps it was less that he wanted to string her along and deny her marriage but more that he wanted to make sure it was the real deal. Rushing into marriage is always a terrible idea, especially if one partner wants to do it just to say they had a wedding and did it by a certain age.

I am certainly no Ryan Lizza fan but I think you are reading too much into his comments about not being ready to discuss marriage. He has a ton of flaws - he's a middle aged simp who ignored dozens of red flags in a woman half his age, he stayed with her after the first affair, he seems deeply insecure - but I think not wanting to rush into marriage so his 28 year old gf can have a wedding is not one of them.

In some ways I wonder if he didn't want to get married bc the part of him that knew he was in denial about how toxic Olivia was had doubts.

Why exactly would you choose to give the benefit of the doubt to a 50-something year old loser leading on a woman almost half his age, but deride the woman as "toxic"? Some of you really don't know how to think before you post. How do you not feel like an idiot writing a three-paragraph defense of a mouth breather who is staring down 60 and still too immature and vindictive to avoid writing hit pieces on exes? What would it take for you not to fall to your knees before a man? Internalized misogyny is a mofo.

This thread is so irritating because I don't even give a crap about this woman, but I'm so sick of the toxic stupidity of so many of my fellow women who can excuse anything a man does but can't froth and foam hard enough at the chance to take down another woman. When will you crabs get it together and stop envying other women so that women have a fighting chance in this society? Men will stand rock solid behind literal serial rapists and multi-victim pedophiles, but a woman has a phone situationship with a man and you all think she should go hungry in the streets. The way you throw away other women is why you're so expendable too. When will you get that? Just dumb.

They're both losers but he's just a sad old man who thinks the industry chippie really love$$$ him. She, imo, actually is toxic, demanding she get married "before she's old" (mind you, "old" here means 30) and telling him to plan a wedding while she's cheating on him.

Believe me, no one is getting down on her knees before Ryan Lizza except Olivia Nuzzi.

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Anonymous wrote:Oh my god, Olivia Nuzzi had another affair with another 30+ older man.

Here's the original reveal from her ex, Ryan Lizza: https://www.telos.news/p/part-1-how-i-found-out

Lol. Ryan is a messy b-tch for this and he definitely hasn't moved on.

I enjoyed reading Ryan’s piece, it’s always helpful to get the other side of the story. But this guy doesn’t get a pass from me. Nuzzi was messy af. But Lizza and Nuzzi were both clout-chasers who mutually benefited from each other’s looks, position, and access. Lizza unfortunately miscalculated that Olivia would try to level up eventually; something that was obvious to anybody who knew about the Olberman history. Nuzzi was (is) a creature for whom lifeblood is attention and death is irrelevance. Each jump to next rock was a more powerful guy, no matter how gross. This makes sense when you realize that the guy isn’t a guy, he’s a path to survival. Nuzzi’s writing skills are always presented as some sort of defense of her actions; as if being skilled at something, anything, somehow reorients the moral framework around which choices should be made. She’s a good writer. She also decided rules of journalism didn’t apply to her. That’s a problem. She’s odd person to lionize until you realize that the media folks writing about her in the press, defending her on X, and giving her book deals are men. It sounds too simple and dumb to be an explanation, but everyone still scratches their heads about how Elizabeth Holmes scammed investors out of millions of dollars.

No matter how compelling Lizza’s version of of events is, or how true, his piece reads as no more or less interesting than the story of any other guy smarting from losing the girl at the end of the movie. Juxtaposing his history with Nuzzi with the inclusion of his over the top love for his latest girlfriend is like that guy you go out on a date with who can’t stop talking about his ex: “you’re so beautiful! Also my ex was such a B, lemme tell you more about her”.

Being betrayed absolutely sucks and I’ve been there. But all of these people suffer from main character syndrome. There’s nothing extraordinary about a middle-aged guy’s 20-something girlfriend figuring out that there was a quicker elevator to the penthouse. Lizza is human, and deserving of empathy. But he ain’t special. My college roommate got dumped for an AP, and we got drunk, stalked her SM, then got up the next day and moved on with our lives. These folks should do the same.

Admittedly I didn't read all of this, but if you agree that Ryan Lizza is a nasty, greedy little b-tch for trying to turn his ex-girlfriend's saga into a come-up for himself while pretending to be above it all, then we agree.

Oh yes, we concur. I loved the part where he describes her angling for a wedding while he politely demures. Nothing says “I never wanted her” like a long-form article spilling all the deets a full year later.

YES. That part was a complete own goal on his part. Nothing says duplicitous snake like posing as the blindsided innocent victimized by a man-eating bimbo while admitting you led her on with no intention of marrying her. She was supposed to stay loyal to a man who was knowingly wasting what he knew she considered her prime marriageable years?

And the money-hungry, deeply envious way he catalogs the items she received from Olbermann is creepy as hell. He sounds a lot like an envious female competitor -- as if his real cause of his anger is that he isn't a woman who has the looks and game to attract financial and career support from successful older men.

I have no sympathy for Ryan Lizza given that there were numerous red flags he was either too stupid to see or too stupid to heed. But I don't think it counts as leading her on if she was cheating on him the entire time.

They are both odious people. But he is just a sad pathetic old man and she's likely mentally ill.

It most definitely does count as leading her on. He was consciously leading her on while smugly thinking he was denying her marriage, without realizing that she was also leading him on. That makes him both a gaping azzhole and a moron, not a victim.

I choose to give him the benefit of the doubt here. He was recently divorced and much older than her, meanwhile she kept going on and on about how she had to get married by 30. He then goes on to say she was pressuring him to plan the wedding. That would make a lot of guys feel like she wanted to get married just for the sake of getting married. Perhaps it was less that he wanted to string her along and deny her marriage but more that he wanted to make sure it was the real deal. Rushing into marriage is always a terrible idea, especially if one partner wants to do it just to say they had a wedding and did it by a certain age.

I am certainly no Ryan Lizza fan but I think you are reading too much into his comments about not being ready to discuss marriage. He has a ton of flaws - he's a middle aged simp who ignored dozens of red flags in a woman half his age, he stayed with her after the first affair, he seems deeply insecure - but I think not wanting to rush into marriage so his 28 year old gf can have a wedding is not one of them.

In some ways I wonder if he didn't want to get married bc the part of him that knew he was in denial about how toxic Olivia was had doubts.

Why exactly would you choose to give the benefit of the doubt to a 50-something year old loser leading on a woman almost half his age, but deride the woman as "toxic"? Some of you really don't know how to think before you post. How do you not feel like an idiot writing a three-paragraph defense of a mouth breather who is staring down 60 and still too immature and vindictive to avoid writing hit pieces on exes? What would it take for you not to fall to your knees before a man? Internalized misogyny is a mofo.

This thread is so irritating because I don't even give a crap about this woman, but I'm so sick of the toxic stupidity of so many of my fellow women who can excuse anything a man does but can't froth and foam hard enough at the chance to take down another woman. When will you crabs get it together and stop envying other women so that women have a fighting chance in this society? Men will stand rock solid behind literal serial rapists and multi-victim pedophiles, but a woman has a phone situationship with a man and you all think she should go hungry in the streets. The way you throw away other women is why you're so expendable too. When will you get that? Just dumb.

Something I've always been curious about: does having a Habsburg jaw make it harder to talk?

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Anonymous wrote:Oh my god, Olivia Nuzzi had another affair with another 30+ older man.

Here's the original reveal from her ex, Ryan Lizza: https://www.telos.news/p/part-1-how-i-found-out

Lol. Ryan is a messy b-tch for this and he definitely hasn't moved on.

I enjoyed reading Ryan’s piece, it’s always helpful to get the other side of the story. But this guy doesn’t get a pass from me. Nuzzi was messy af. But Lizza and Nuzzi were both clout-chasers who mutually benefited from each other’s looks, position, and access. Lizza unfortunately miscalculated that Olivia would try to level up eventually; something that was obvious to anybody who knew about the Olberman history. Nuzzi was (is) a creature for whom lifeblood is attention and death is irrelevance. Each jump to next rock was a more powerful guy, no matter how gross. This makes sense when you realize that the guy isn’t a guy, he’s a path to survival. Nuzzi’s writing skills are always presented as some sort of defense of her actions; as if being skilled at something, anything, somehow reorients the moral framework around which choices should be made. She’s a good writer. She also decided rules of journalism didn’t apply to her. That’s a problem. She’s odd person to lionize until you realize that the media folks writing about her in the press, defending her on X, and giving her book deals are men. It sounds too simple and dumb to be an explanation, but everyone still scratches their heads about how Elizabeth Holmes scammed investors out of millions of dollars.

No matter how compelling Lizza’s version of of events is, or how true, his piece reads as no more or less interesting than the story of any other guy smarting from losing the girl at the end of the movie. Juxtaposing his history with Nuzzi with the inclusion of his over the top love for his latest girlfriend is like that guy you go out on a date with who can’t stop talking about his ex: “you’re so beautiful! Also my ex was such a B, lemme tell you more about her”.

Being betrayed absolutely sucks and I’ve been there. But all of these people suffer from main character syndrome. There’s nothing extraordinary about a middle-aged guy’s 20-something girlfriend figuring out that there was a quicker elevator to the penthouse. Lizza is human, and deserving of empathy. But he ain’t special. My college roommate got dumped for an AP, and we got drunk, stalked her SM, then got up the next day and moved on with our lives. These folks should do the same.

Admittedly I didn't read all of this, but if you agree that Ryan Lizza is a nasty, greedy little b-tch for trying to turn his ex-girlfriend's saga into a come-up for himself while pretending to be above it all, then we agree.

Oh yes, we concur. I loved the part where he describes her angling for a wedding while he politely demures. Nothing says “I never wanted her” like a long-form article spilling all the deets a full year later.

YES. That part was a complete own goal on his part. Nothing says duplicitous snake like posing as the blindsided innocent victimized by a man-eating bimbo while admitting you led her on with no intention of marrying her. She was supposed to stay loyal to a man who was knowingly wasting what he knew she considered her prime marriageable years?

And the money-hungry, deeply envious way he catalogs the items she received from Olbermann is creepy as hell. He sounds a lot like an envious female competitor -- as if his real cause of his anger is that he isn't a woman who has the looks and game to attract financial and career support from successful older men.

I have no sympathy for Ryan Lizza given that there were numerous red flags he was either too stupid to see or too stupid to heed. But I don't think it counts as leading her on if she was cheating on him the entire time.

They are both odious people. But he is just a sad pathetic old man and she's likely mentally ill.

It most definitely does count as leading her on. He was consciously leading her on while smugly thinking he was denying her marriage, without realizing that she was also leading him on. That makes him both a gaping azzhole and a moron, not a victim.

I choose to give him the benefit of the doubt here. He was recently divorced and much older than her, meanwhile she kept going on and on about how she had to get married by 30. He then goes on to say she was pressuring him to plan the wedding. That would make a lot of guys feel like she wanted to get married just for the sake of getting married. Perhaps it was less that he wanted to string her along and deny her marriage but more that he wanted to make sure it was the real deal. Rushing into marriage is always a terrible idea, especially if one partner wants to do it just to say they had a wedding and did it by a certain age.

I am certainly no Ryan Lizza fan but I think you are reading too much into his comments about not being ready to discuss marriage. He has a ton of flaws - he's a middle aged simp who ignored dozens of red flags in a woman half his age, he stayed with her after the first affair, he seems deeply insecure - but I think not wanting to rush into marriage so his 28 year old gf can have a wedding is not one of them.

In some ways I wonder if he didn't want to get married bc the part of him that knew he was in denial about how toxic Olivia was had doubts.

Why exactly would you choose to give the benefit of the doubt to a 50-something year old loser leading on a woman almost half his age, but deride the woman as "toxic"? Some of you really don't know how to think before you post. How do you not feel like an idiot writing a three-paragraph defense of a mouth breather who is staring down 60 and still too immature and vindictive to avoid writing hit pieces on exes? What would it take for you not to fall to your knees before a man? Internalized misogyny is a mofo.

This thread is so irritating because I don't even give a crap about this woman, but I'm so sick of the toxic stupidity of so many of my fellow women who can excuse anything a man does but can't froth and foam hard enough at the chance to take down another woman. When will you crabs get it together and stop envying other women so that women have a fighting chance in this society? Men will stand rock solid behind literal serial rapists and multi-victim pedophiles, but a woman has a phone situationship with a man and you all think she should go hungry in the streets. The way you throw away other women is why you're so expendable too. When will you get that? Just dumb.

It's not a hit piece. A hit piece is excessively critical. He's literally just reporting that his ex cheated on him.

Frankly she seems like a loose cannon and I don't blame him for doing this exercise in CYA.

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Here's the original reveal from her ex, Ryan Lizza: https://www.telos.news/p/part-1-how-i-found-out

Lol. Ryan is a messy b-tch for this and he definitely hasn't moved on.

I enjoyed reading Ryan’s piece, it’s always helpful to get the other side of the story. But this guy doesn’t get a pass from me. Nuzzi was messy af. But Lizza and Nuzzi were both clout-chasers who mutually benefited from each other’s looks, position, and access. Lizza unfortunately miscalculated that Olivia would try to level up eventually; something that was obvious to anybody who knew about the Olberman history. Nuzzi was (is) a creature for whom lifeblood is attention and death is irrelevance. Each jump to next rock was a more powerful guy, no matter how gross. This makes sense when you realize that the guy isn’t a guy, he’s a path to survival. Nuzzi’s writing skills are always presented as some sort of defense of her actions; as if being skilled at something, anything, somehow reorients the moral framework around which choices should be made. She’s a good writer. She also decided rules of journalism didn’t apply to her. That’s a problem. She’s odd person to lionize until you realize that the media folks writing about her in the press, defending her on X, and giving her book deals are men. It sounds too simple and dumb to be an explanation, but everyone still scratches their heads about how Elizabeth Holmes scammed investors out of millions of dollars.

No matter how compelling Lizza’s version of of events is, or how true, his piece reads as no more or less interesting than the story of any other guy smarting from losing the girl at the end of the movie. Juxtaposing his history with Nuzzi with the inclusion of his over the top love for his latest girlfriend is like that guy you go out on a date with who can’t stop talking about his ex: “you’re so beautiful! Also my ex was such a B, lemme tell you more about her”.

Being betrayed absolutely sucks and I’ve been there. But all of these people suffer from main character syndrome. There’s nothing extraordinary about a middle-aged guy’s 20-something girlfriend figuring out that there was a quicker elevator to the penthouse. Lizza is human, and deserving of empathy. But he ain’t special. My college roommate got dumped for an AP, and we got drunk, stalked her SM, then got up the next day and moved on with our lives. These folks should do the same.

Admittedly I didn't read all of this, but if you agree that Ryan Lizza is a nasty, greedy little b-tch for trying to turn his ex-girlfriend's saga into a come-up for himself while pretending to be above it all, then we agree.

Oh yes, we concur. I loved the part where he describes her angling for a wedding while he politely demures. Nothing says “I never wanted her” like a long-form article spilling all the deets a full year later.

YES. That part was a complete own goal on his part. Nothing says duplicitous snake like posing as the blindsided innocent victimized by a man-eating bimbo while admitting you led her on with no intention of marrying her. She was supposed to stay loyal to a man who was knowingly wasting what he knew she considered her prime marriageable years?

And the money-hungry, deeply envious way he catalogs the items she received from Olbermann is creepy as hell. He sounds a lot like an envious female competitor -- as if his real cause of his anger is that he isn't a woman who has the looks and game to attract financial and career support from successful older men.

I have no sympathy for Ryan Lizza given that there were numerous red flags he was either too stupid to see or too stupid to heed. But I don't think it counts as leading her on if she was cheating on him the entire time.

They are both odious people. But he is just a sad pathetic old man and she's likely mentally ill.

It most definitely does count as leading her on. He was consciously leading her on while smugly thinking he was denying her marriage, without realizing that she was also leading him on. That makes him both a gaping azzhole and a moron, not a victim.

I choose to give him the benefit of the doubt here. He was recently divorced and much older than her, meanwhile she kept going on and on about how she had to get married by 30. He then goes on to say she was pressuring him to plan the wedding. That would make a lot of guys feel like she wanted to get married just for the sake of getting married. Perhaps it was less that he wanted to string her along and deny her marriage but more that he wanted to make sure it was the real deal. Rushing into marriage is always a terrible idea, especially if one partner wants to do it just to say they had a wedding and did it by a certain age.

I am certainly no Ryan Lizza fan but I think you are reading too much into his comments about not being ready to discuss marriage. He has a ton of flaws - he's a middle aged simp who ignored dozens of red flags in a woman half his age, he stayed with her after the first affair, he seems deeply insecure - but I think not wanting to rush into marriage so his 28 year old gf can have a wedding is not one of them.

In some ways I wonder if he didn't want to get married bc the part of him that knew he was in denial about how toxic Olivia was had doubts.

Why exactly would you choose to give the benefit of the doubt to a 50-something year old loser leading on a woman almost half his age, but deride the woman as "toxic"? Some of you really don't know how to think before you post. How do you not feel like an idiot writing a three-paragraph defense of a mouth breather who is staring down 60 and still too immature and vindictive to avoid writing hit pieces on exes? What would it take for you not to fall to your knees before a man? Internalized misogyny is a mofo.

This thread is so irritating because I don't even give a crap about this woman, but I'm so sick of the toxic stupidity of so many of my fellow women who can excuse anything a man does but can't froth and foam hard enough at the chance to take down another woman. When will you crabs get it together and stop envying other women so that women have a fighting chance in this society? Men will stand rock solid behind literal serial rapists and multi-victim pedophiles, but a woman has a phone situationship with a man and you all think she should go hungry in the streets. The way you throw away other women is why you're so expendable too. When will you get that? Just dumb.

They're both losers but he's just a sad old man who thinks the industry chippie really love$$$ him. She, imo, actually is toxic, demanding she get married "before she's old" (mind you, "old" here means 30) and telling him to plan a wedding while she's cheating on him.

Believe me, no one is getting down on her knees before Ryan Lizza except Olivia Nuzzi.

To be fair it sounds like she was getting down on her knees before Mark Sanford and lying to Ryan Lizza about being with her mom lol.

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Here's the original reveal from her ex, Ryan Lizza: https://www.telos.news/p/part-1-how-i-found-out

Lol. Ryan is a messy b-tch for this and he definitely hasn't moved on.

I enjoyed reading Ryan’s piece, it’s always helpful to get the other side of the story. But this guy doesn’t get a pass from me. Nuzzi was messy af. But Lizza and Nuzzi were both clout-chasers who mutually benefited from each other’s looks, position, and access. Lizza unfortunately miscalculated that Olivia would try to level up eventually; something that was obvious to anybody who knew about the Olberman history. Nuzzi was (is) a creature for whom lifeblood is attention and death is irrelevance. Each jump to next rock was a more powerful guy, no matter how gross. This makes sense when you realize that the guy isn’t a guy, he’s a path to survival. Nuzzi’s writing skills are always presented as some sort of defense of her actions; as if being skilled at something, anything, somehow reorients the moral framework around which choices should be made. She’s a good writer. She also decided rules of journalism didn’t apply to her. That’s a problem. She’s odd person to lionize until you realize that the media folks writing about her in the press, defending her on X, and giving her book deals are men. It sounds too simple and dumb to be an explanation, but everyone still scratches their heads about how Elizabeth Holmes scammed investors out of millions of dollars.

No matter how compelling Lizza’s version of of events is, or how true, his piece reads as no more or less interesting than the story of any other guy smarting from losing the girl at the end of the movie. Juxtaposing his history with Nuzzi with the inclusion of his over the top love for his latest girlfriend is like that guy you go out on a date with who can’t stop talking about his ex: “you’re so beautiful! Also my ex was such a B, lemme tell you more about her”.

Being betrayed absolutely sucks and I’ve been there. But all of these people suffer from main character syndrome. There’s nothing extraordinary about a middle-aged guy’s 20-something girlfriend figuring out that there was a quicker elevator to the penthouse. Lizza is human, and deserving of empathy. But he ain’t special. My college roommate got dumped for an AP, and we got drunk, stalked her SM, then got up the next day and moved on with our lives. These folks should do the same.

Admittedly I didn't read all of this, but if you agree that Ryan Lizza is a nasty, greedy little b-tch for trying to turn his ex-girlfriend's saga into a come-up for himself while pretending to be above it all, then we agree.

Oh yes, we concur. I loved the part where he describes her angling for a wedding while he politely demures. Nothing says “I never wanted her” like a long-form article spilling all the deets a full year later.

YES. That part was a complete own goal on his part. Nothing says duplicitous snake like posing as the blindsided innocent victimized by a man-eating bimbo while admitting you led her on with no intention of marrying her. She was supposed to stay loyal to a man who was knowingly wasting what he knew she considered her prime marriageable years?

And the money-hungry, deeply envious way he catalogs the items she received from Olbermann is creepy as hell. He sounds a lot like an envious female competitor -- as if his real cause of his anger is that he isn't a woman who has the looks and game to attract financial and career support from successful older men.

I have no sympathy for Ryan Lizza given that there were numerous red flags he was either too stupid to see or too stupid to heed. But I don't think it counts as leading her on if she was cheating on him the entire time.

They are both odious people. But he is just a sad pathetic old man and she's likely mentally ill.

It most definitely does count as leading her on. He was consciously leading her on while smugly thinking he was denying her marriage, without realizing that she was also leading him on. That makes him both a gaping azzhole and a moron, not a victim.

I choose to give him the benefit of the doubt here. He was recently divorced and much older than her, meanwhile she kept going on and on about how she had to get married by 30. He then goes on to say she was pressuring him to plan the wedding. That would make a lot of guys feel like she wanted to get married just for the sake of getting married. Perhaps it was less that he wanted to string her along and deny her marriage but more that he wanted to make sure it was the real deal. Rushing into marriage is always a terrible idea, especially if one partner wants to do it just to say they had a wedding and did it by a certain age.

I am certainly no Ryan Lizza fan but I think you are reading too much into his comments about not being ready to discuss marriage. He has a ton of flaws - he's a middle aged simp who ignored dozens of red flags in a woman half his age, he stayed with her after the first affair, he seems deeply insecure - but I think not wanting to rush into marriage so his 28 year old gf can have a wedding is not one of them.

In some ways I wonder if he didn't want to get married bc the part of him that knew he was in denial about how toxic Olivia was had doubts.

Why exactly would you choose to give the benefit of the doubt to a 50-something year old loser leading on a woman almost half his age, but deride the woman as "toxic"? Some of you really don't know how to think before you post. How do you not feel like an idiot writing a three-paragraph defense of a mouth breather who is staring down 60 and still too immature and vindictive to avoid writing hit pieces on exes? What would it take for you not to fall to your knees before a man? Internalized misogyny is a mofo.

This thread is so irritating because I don't even give a crap about this woman, but I'm so sick of the toxic stupidity of so many of my fellow women who can excuse anything a man does but can't froth and foam hard enough at the chance to take down another woman. When will you crabs get it together and stop envying other women so that women have a fighting chance in this society? Men will stand rock solid behind literal serial rapists and multi-victim pedophiles, but a woman has a phone situationship with a man and you all think she should go hungry in the streets. The way you throw away other women is why you're so expendable too. When will you get that? Just dumb.

They're both losers but he's just a sad old man who thinks the industry chippie really love$$$ him. She, imo, actually is toxic, demanding she get married "before she's old" (mind you, "old" here means 30) and telling him to plan a wedding while she's cheating on him.

Believe me, no one is getting down on her knees before Ryan Lizza except Olivia Nuzzi.

You're on at least your third comment defending him. It would actually be less sad if you were fellating him IRL because at least he'd know you exist. Right now, you're just being stupid for free because you're too dim to interrogate why you feel the need to defend men.

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Here's the original reveal from her ex, Ryan Lizza: https://www.telos.news/p/part-1-how-i-found-out

Lol. Ryan is a messy b-tch for this and he definitely hasn't moved on.

I enjoyed reading Ryan’s piece, it’s always helpful to get the other side of the story. But this guy doesn’t get a pass from me. Nuzzi was messy af. But Lizza and Nuzzi were both clout-chasers who mutually benefited from each other’s looks, position, and access. Lizza unfortunately miscalculated that Olivia would try to level up eventually; something that was obvious to anybody who knew about the Olberman history. Nuzzi was (is) a creature for whom lifeblood is attention and death is irrelevance. Each jump to next rock was a more powerful guy, no matter how gross. This makes sense when you realize that the guy isn’t a guy, he’s a path to survival. Nuzzi’s writing skills are always presented as some sort of defense of her actions; as if being skilled at something, anything, somehow reorients the moral framework around which choices should be made. She’s a good writer. She also decided rules of journalism didn’t apply to her. That’s a problem. She’s odd person to lionize until you realize that the media folks writing about her in the press, defending her on X, and giving her book deals are men. It sounds too simple and dumb to be an explanation, but everyone still scratches their heads about how Elizabeth Holmes scammed investors out of millions of dollars.

No matter how compelling Lizza’s version of of events is, or how true, his piece reads as no more or less interesting than the story of any other guy smarting from losing the girl at the end of the movie. Juxtaposing his history with Nuzzi with the inclusion of his over the top love for his latest girlfriend is like that guy you go out on a date with who can’t stop talking about his ex: “you’re so beautiful! Also my ex was such a B, lemme tell you more about her”.

Being betrayed absolutely sucks and I’ve been there. But all of these people suffer from main character syndrome. There’s nothing extraordinary about a middle-aged guy’s 20-something girlfriend figuring out that there was a quicker elevator to the penthouse. Lizza is human, and deserving of empathy. But he ain’t special. My college roommate got dumped for an AP, and we got drunk, stalked her SM, then got up the next day and moved on with our lives. These folks should do the same.

Admittedly I didn't read all of this, but if you agree that Ryan Lizza is a nasty, greedy little b-tch for trying to turn his ex-girlfriend's saga into a come-up for himself while pretending to be above it all, then we agree.

Oh yes, we concur. I loved the part where he describes her angling for a wedding while he politely demures. Nothing says “I never wanted her” like a long-form article spilling all the deets a full year later.

YES. That part was a complete own goal on his part. Nothing says duplicitous snake like posing as the blindsided innocent victimized by a man-eating bimbo while admitting you led her on with no intention of marrying her. She was supposed to stay loyal to a man who was knowingly wasting what he knew she considered her prime marriageable years?

And the money-hungry, deeply envious way he catalogs the items she received from Olbermann is creepy as hell. He sounds a lot like an envious female competitor -- as if his real cause of his anger is that he isn't a woman who has the looks and game to attract financial and career support from successful older men.

I have no sympathy for Ryan Lizza given that there were numerous red flags he was either too stupid to see or too stupid to heed. But I don't think it counts as leading her on if she was cheating on him the entire time.

They are both odious people. But he is just a sad pathetic old man and she's likely mentally ill.

It most definitely does count as leading her on. He was consciously leading her on while smugly thinking he was denying her marriage, without realizing that she was also leading him on. That makes him both a gaping azzhole and a moron, not a victim.

I choose to give him the benefit of the doubt here. He was recently divorced and much older than her, meanwhile she kept going on and on about how she had to get married by 30. He then goes on to say she was pressuring him to plan the wedding. That would make a lot of guys feel like she wanted to get married just for the sake of getting married. Perhaps it was less that he wanted to string her along and deny her marriage but more that he wanted to make sure it was the real deal. Rushing into marriage is always a terrible idea, especially if one partner wants to do it just to say they had a wedding and did it by a certain age.

I am certainly no Ryan Lizza fan but I think you are reading too much into his comments about not being ready to discuss marriage. He has a ton of flaws - he's a middle aged simp who ignored dozens of red flags in a woman half his age, he stayed with her after the first affair, he seems deeply insecure - but I think not wanting to rush into marriage so his 28 year old gf can have a wedding is not one of them.

In some ways I wonder if he didn't want to get married bc the part of him that knew he was in denial about how toxic Olivia was had doubts.

Why exactly would you choose to give the benefit of the doubt to a 50-something year old loser leading on a woman almost half his age, but deride the woman as "toxic"? Some of you really don't know how to think before you post. How do you not feel like an idiot writing a three-paragraph defense of a mouth breather who is staring down 60 and still too immature and vindictive to avoid writing hit pieces on exes? What would it take for you not to fall to your knees before a man? Internalized misogyny is a mofo.

This thread is so irritating because I don't even give a crap about this woman, but I'm so sick of the toxic stupidity of so many of my fellow women who can excuse anything a man does but can't froth and foam hard enough at the chance to take down another woman. When will you crabs get it together and stop envying other women so that women have a fighting chance in this society? Men will stand rock solid behind literal serial rapists and multi-victim pedophiles, but a woman has a phone situationship with a man and you all think she should go hungry in the streets. The way you throw away other women is why you're so expendable too. When will you get that? Just dumb.

They're both losers but he's just a sad old man who thinks the industry chippie really love$$$ him. She, imo, actually is toxic, demanding she get married "before she's old" (mind you, "old" here means 30) and telling him to plan a wedding while she's cheating on him.

Believe me, no one is getting down on her knees before Ryan Lizza except Olivia Nuzzi.

You're on at least your third comment defending him. It would actually be less sad if you were fellating him IRL because at least he'd know you exist. Right now, you're just being stupid for free because you're too dim to interrogate why you feel the need to defend men.

Okay, Olivia. I have a dad who loves me and had my best interests at heart as a kid so I actually don't need to fellate your loser ex. I just think he's a loser and you have BPD. Hope this helps.

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Anonymous wrote:Oh my god, Olivia Nuzzi had another affair with another 30+ older man.

Here's the original reveal from her ex, Ryan Lizza: https://www.telos.news/p/part-1-how-i-found-out

Lol. Ryan is a messy b-tch for this and he definitely hasn't moved on.

I enjoyed reading Ryan’s piece, it’s always helpful to get the other side of the story. But this guy doesn’t get a pass from me. Nuzzi was messy af. But Lizza and Nuzzi were both clout-chasers who mutually benefited from each other’s looks, position, and access. Lizza unfortunately miscalculated that Olivia would try to level up eventually; something that was obvious to anybody who knew about the Olberman history. Nuzzi was (is) a creature for whom lifeblood is attention and death is irrelevance. Each jump to next rock was a more powerful guy, no matter how gross. This makes sense when you realize that the guy isn’t a guy, he’s a path to survival. Nuzzi’s writing skills are always presented as some sort of defense of her actions; as if being skilled at something, anything, somehow reorients the moral framework around which choices should be made. She’s a good writer. She also decided rules of journalism didn’t apply to her. That’s a problem. She’s odd person to lionize until you realize that the media folks writing about her in the press, defending her on X, and giving her book deals are men. It sounds too simple and dumb to be an explanation, but everyone still scratches their heads about how Elizabeth Holmes scammed investors out of millions of dollars.

No matter how compelling Lizza’s version of of events is, or how true, his piece reads as no more or less interesting than the story of any other guy smarting from losing the girl at the end of the movie. Juxtaposing his history with Nuzzi with the inclusion of his over the top love for his latest girlfriend is like that guy you go out on a date with who can’t stop talking about his ex: “you’re so beautiful! Also my ex was such a B, lemme tell you more about her”.

Being betrayed absolutely sucks and I’ve been there. But all of these people suffer from main character syndrome. There’s nothing extraordinary about a middle-aged guy’s 20-something girlfriend figuring out that there was a quicker elevator to the penthouse. Lizza is human, and deserving of empathy. But he ain’t special. My college roommate got dumped for an AP, and we got drunk, stalked her SM, then got up the next day and moved on with our lives. These folks should do the same.

Admittedly I didn't read all of this, but if you agree that Ryan Lizza is a nasty, greedy little b-tch for trying to turn his ex-girlfriend's saga into a come-up for himself while pretending to be above it all, then we agree.

Oh yes, we concur. I loved the part where he describes her angling for a wedding while he politely demures. Nothing says “I never wanted her” like a long-form article spilling all the deets a full year later.

YES. That part was a complete own goal on his part. Nothing says duplicitous snake like posing as the blindsided innocent victimized by a man-eating bimbo while admitting you led her on with no intention of marrying her. She was supposed to stay loyal to a man who was knowingly wasting what he knew she considered her prime marriageable years?

And the money-hungry, deeply envious way he catalogs the items she received from Olbermann is creepy as hell. He sounds a lot like an envious female competitor -- as if his real cause of his anger is that he isn't a woman who has the looks and game to attract financial and career support from successful older men.

I have no sympathy for Ryan Lizza given that there were numerous red flags he was either too stupid to see or too stupid to heed. But I don't think it counts as leading her on if she was cheating on him the entire time.

They are both odious people. But he is just a sad pathetic old man and she's likely mentally ill.

It most definitely does count as leading her on. He was consciously leading her on while smugly thinking he was denying her marriage, without realizing that she was also leading him on. That makes him both a gaping azzhole and a moron, not a victim.

I choose to give him the benefit of the doubt here. He was recently divorced and much older than her, meanwhile she kept going on and on about how she had to get married by 30. He then goes on to say she was pressuring him to plan the wedding. That would make a lot of guys feel like she wanted to get married just for the sake of getting married. Perhaps it was less that he wanted to string her along and deny her marriage but more that he wanted to make sure it was the real deal. Rushing into marriage is always a terrible idea, especially if one partner wants to do it just to say they had a wedding and did it by a certain age.

I am certainly no Ryan Lizza fan but I think you are reading too much into his comments about not being ready to discuss marriage. He has a ton of flaws - he's a middle aged simp who ignored dozens of red flags in a woman half his age, he stayed with her after the first affair, he seems deeply insecure - but I think not wanting to rush into marriage so his 28 year old gf can have a wedding is not one of them.

In some ways I wonder if he didn't want to get married bc the part of him that knew he was in denial about how toxic Olivia was had doubts.

Why exactly would you choose to give the benefit of the doubt to a 50-something year old loser leading on a woman almost half his age, but deride the woman as "toxic"? Some of you really don't know how to think before you post. How do you not feel like an idiot writing a three-paragraph defense of a mouth breather who is staring down 60 and still too immature and vindictive to avoid writing hit pieces on exes? What would it take for you not to fall to your knees before a man? Internalized misogyny is a mofo.

This thread is so irritating because I don't even give a crap about this woman, but I'm so sick of the toxic stupidity of so many of my fellow women who can excuse anything a man does but can't froth and foam hard enough at the chance to take down another woman. When will you crabs get it together and stop envying other women so that women have a fighting chance in this society? Men will stand rock solid behind literal serial rapists and multi-victim pedophiles, but a woman has a phone situationship with a man and you all think she should go hungry in the streets. The way you throw away other women is why you're so expendable too. When will you get that? Just dumb.

They're both losers but he's just a sad old man who thinks the industry chippie really love$$$ him. She, imo, actually is toxic, demanding she get married "before she's old" (mind you, "old" here means 30) and telling him to plan a wedding while she's cheating on him.

Believe me, no one is getting down on her knees before Ryan Lizza except Olivia Nuzzi.

You're on at least your third comment defending him. It would actually be less sad if you were fellating him IRL because at least he'd know you exist. Right now, you're just being stupid for free because you're too dim to interrogate why you feel the need to defend men.

Okay, Olivia. I have a dad who loves me and had my best interests at heart as a kid so I actually don't need to fellate your loser ex. I just think he's a loser and you have BPD. Hope this helps.

But did your dad let you record a song called "Jail Bait" when you were literally a child?

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Here's the original reveal from her ex, Ryan Lizza: https://www.telos.news/p/part-1-how-i-found-out

Lol. Ryan is a messy b-tch for this and he definitely hasn't moved on.

I enjoyed reading Ryan’s piece, it’s always helpful to get the other side of the story. But this guy doesn’t get a pass from me. Nuzzi was messy af. But Lizza and Nuzzi were both clout-chasers who mutually benefited from each other’s looks, position, and access. Lizza unfortunately miscalculated that Olivia would try to level up eventually; something that was obvious to anybody who knew about the Olberman history. Nuzzi was (is) a creature for whom lifeblood is attention and death is irrelevance. Each jump to next rock was a more powerful guy, no matter how gross. This makes sense when you realize that the guy isn’t a guy, he’s a path to survival. Nuzzi’s writing skills are always presented as some sort of defense of her actions; as if being skilled at something, anything, somehow reorients the moral framework around which choices should be made. She’s a good writer. She also decided rules of journalism didn’t apply to her. That’s a problem. She’s odd person to lionize until you realize that the media folks writing about her in the press, defending her on X, and giving her book deals are men. It sounds too simple and dumb to be an explanation, but everyone still scratches their heads about how Elizabeth Holmes scammed investors out of millions of dollars.

No matter how compelling Lizza’s version of of events is, or how true, his piece reads as no more or less interesting than the story of any other guy smarting from losing the girl at the end of the movie. Juxtaposing his history with Nuzzi with the inclusion of his over the top love for his latest girlfriend is like that guy you go out on a date with who can’t stop talking about his ex: “you’re so beautiful! Also my ex was such a B, lemme tell you more about her”.

Being betrayed absolutely sucks and I’ve been there. But all of these people suffer from main character syndrome. There’s nothing extraordinary about a middle-aged guy’s 20-something girlfriend figuring out that there was a quicker elevator to the penthouse. Lizza is human, and deserving of empathy. But he ain’t special. My college roommate got dumped for an AP, and we got drunk, stalked her SM, then got up the next day and moved on with our lives. These folks should do the same.

Admittedly I didn't read all of this, but if you agree that Ryan Lizza is a nasty, greedy little b-tch for trying to turn his ex-girlfriend's saga into a come-up for himself while pretending to be above it all, then we agree.

Oh yes, we concur. I loved the part where he describes her angling for a wedding while he politely demures. Nothing says “I never wanted her” like a long-form article spilling all the deets a full year later.

YES. That part was a complete own goal on his part. Nothing says duplicitous snake like posing as the blindsided innocent victimized by a man-eating bimbo while admitting you led her on with no intention of marrying her. She was supposed to stay loyal to a man who was knowingly wasting what he knew she considered her prime marriageable years?

And the money-hungry, deeply envious way he catalogs the items she received from Olbermann is creepy as hell. He sounds a lot like an envious female competitor -- as if his real cause of his anger is that he isn't a woman who has the looks and game to attract financial and career support from successful older men.

I have no sympathy for Ryan Lizza given that there were numerous red flags he was either too stupid to see or too stupid to heed. But I don't think it counts as leading her on if she was cheating on him the entire time.

They are both odious people. But he is just a sad pathetic old man and she's likely mentally ill.

It most definitely does count as leading her on. He was consciously leading her on while smugly thinking he was denying her marriage, without realizing that she was also leading him on. That makes him both a gaping azzhole and a moron, not a victim.

I choose to give him the benefit of the doubt here. He was recently divorced and much older than her, meanwhile she kept going on and on about how she had to get married by 30. He then goes on to say she was pressuring him to plan the wedding. That would make a lot of guys feel like she wanted to get married just for the sake of getting married. Perhaps it was less that he wanted to string her along and deny her marriage but more that he wanted to make sure it was the real deal. Rushing into marriage is always a terrible idea, especially if one partner wants to do it just to say they had a wedding and did it by a certain age.

I am certainly no Ryan Lizza fan but I think you are reading too much into his comments about not being ready to discuss marriage. He has a ton of flaws - he's a middle aged simp who ignored dozens of red flags in a woman half his age, he stayed with her after the first affair, he seems deeply insecure - but I think not wanting to rush into marriage so his 28 year old gf can have a wedding is not one of them.

In some ways I wonder if he didn't want to get married bc the part of him that knew he was in denial about how toxic Olivia was had doubts.

Why exactly would you choose to give the benefit of the doubt to a 50-something year old loser leading on a woman almost half his age, but deride the woman as "toxic"? Some of you really don't know how to think before you post. How do you not feel like an idiot writing a three-paragraph defense of a mouth breather who is staring down 60 and still too immature and vindictive to avoid writing hit pieces on exes? What would it take for you not to fall to your knees before a man? Internalized misogyny is a mofo.

This thread is so irritating because I don't even give a crap about this woman, but I'm so sick of the toxic stupidity of so many of my fellow women who can excuse anything a man does but can't froth and foam hard enough at the chance to take down another woman. When will you crabs get it together and stop envying other women so that women have a fighting chance in this society? Men will stand rock solid behind literal serial rapists and multi-victim pedophiles, but a woman has a phone situationship with a man and you all think she should go hungry in the streets. The way you throw away other women is why you're so expendable too. When will you get that? Just dumb.

It's not a hit piece. A hit piece is excessively critical. He's literally just reporting that his ex cheated on him.

Frankly she seems like a loose cannon and I don't blame him for doing this exercise in CYA.

It's not a hit piece when he maliciously exposes another affair no one knew about and the exposé is conveniently timed to create backlash against her in her new job? Girl, bye.

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Ryan lizza has a sordid history too. He’s just like Olivia. She just beat him to the punch.

And now he’s playing the victim