But Don't Dare Call Them Racists!

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Anonymous wrote:NP. I’m a deeply disillusioned lifelong Democrat who basically despises the entire Democratic party now, but cannot stomach voting Republican. It’s stuff like this that is why. It’s just too endemic in the Republican party.


Same, very frustrated with Democrats, but I cannot stomach how the Republican party overlooks this stuff with "whataboutism." As a woman, also cannot stomach how they embrace Christian nationalists like Hesgeth or Kirk who use the bible as an excuse for viewing women as subservient.


PP here. I agree, though truthfully I don’t think that the Democrats are better as far as viewing women as subservient. They just use different language.

But these texts are consistent with the whataboutism language of Republicans (they just dismiss it) and it’s revolting. The lack of concern is horrible.


2 of the last three nominees for president were women.
Pro-choice so women can manage their own bodies
Pro child care, so women who want to, can partake in the work place
Pro-equal pay, so women and men earn the same salary for the same work

I could go on, but really not sure how you get to the bolded.


This is off topic for this thread, and you can start a different thread if you are truly interested, but one of the absolutely most distasteful aspects of the modern Democratic Party is that the narrow world view they prescribe and hold is so dogmatic and quasi-religious in nature that they cannot conceive of disagreement. I am an extremely reluctant Democrat voter who believes that Democrats are as much male supremacists as the Republicans. And I am not the only one.

But getting back on track, I can’t vote for Republicans so long as this nonsense is a key part of their party, and it is. It is a bridge too far. So of the awful choices, it is the Democrats at this point.


Did you vote for him in November because it was a bridge too far even then. WE knew what MAGA and dumpy stood for. None of this shocks most people.
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Anonymous wrote:NP. I’m a deeply disillusioned lifelong Democrat who basically despises the entire Democratic party now, but cannot stomach voting Republican. It’s stuff like this that is why. It’s just too endemic in the Republican party.


Same, very frustrated with Democrats, but I cannot stomach how the Republican party overlooks this stuff with "whataboutism." As a woman, also cannot stomach how they embrace Christian nationalists like Hesgeth or Kirk who use the bible as an excuse for viewing women as subservient.


PP here. I agree, though truthfully I don’t think that the Democrats are better as far as viewing women as subservient. They just use different language.

But these texts are consistent with the whataboutism language of Republicans (they just dismiss it) and it’s revolting. The lack of concern is horrible.


2 of the last three nominees for president were women.
Pro-choice so women can manage their own bodies
Pro child care, so women who want to, can partake in the work place
Pro-equal pay, so women and men earn the same salary for the same work

I could go on, but really not sure how you get to the bolded.


This is off topic for this thread, and you can start a different thread if you are truly interested, but one of the absolutely most distasteful aspects of the modern Democratic Party is that the narrow world view they prescribe and hold is so dogmatic and quasi-religious in nature that they cannot conceive of disagreement. I am an extremely reluctant Democrat voter who believes that Democrats are as much male supremacists as the Republicans. And I am not the only one.

But getting back on track, I can’t vote for Republicans so long as this nonsense is a key part of their party, and it is. It is a bridge too far. So of the awful choices, it is the Democrats at this point.


Did you vote for him in November because it was a bridge too far even then. WE knew what MAGA and dumpy stood for. None of this shocks most people.


No, of course not. I voted for Harris.

I hate the Democrats but I can’t vote Republican.
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Wonder what Usha Vance thinks about this.

Trump Considers Overhaul of Refugee System That Would Favor White People
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/10/15/us/politics/trump-refugee-white-people.html
The proposals would transform a program aimed at helping the most vulnerable people in the world into one that gives preference to mostly white people who say they are being persecuted.

he Trump administration is considering a radical overhaul of the U.S. refugee system that would slash the program to its bare bones while giving preference to English speakers, white South Africans and Europeans who oppose migration, according to documents obtained by The New York Times.

The proposals, some of which already have gone into effect, would transform a decades-old program aimed at helping the world’s most desperate people into one that conforms to Mr. Trump’s vision of immigration — which is to help mostly white people who say they are being persecuted while keeping the vast majority of other people out.
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Anonymous wrote:NP. I’m a deeply disillusioned lifelong Democrat who basically despises the entire Democratic party now, but cannot stomach voting Republican. It’s stuff like this that is why. It’s just too endemic in the Republican party.


Same, very frustrated with Democrats, but I cannot stomach how the Republican party overlooks this stuff with "whataboutism." As a woman, also cannot stomach how they embrace Christian nationalists like Hesgeth or Kirk who use the bible as an excuse for viewing women as subservient.


PP here. I agree, though truthfully I don’t think that the Democrats are better as far as viewing women as subservient. They just use different language.

But these texts are consistent with the whataboutism language of Republicans (they just dismiss it) and it’s revolting. The lack of concern is horrible.


2 of the last three nominees for president were women.
Pro-choice so women can manage their own bodies
Pro child care, so women who want to, can partake in the work place
Pro-equal pay, so women and men earn the same salary for the same work

I could go on, but really not sure how you get to the bolded.


This is off topic for this thread, and you can start a different thread if you are truly interested, but one of the absolutely most distasteful aspects of the modern Democratic Party is that the narrow world view they prescribe and hold is so dogmatic and quasi-religious in nature that they cannot conceive of disagreement. I am an extremely reluctant Democrat voter who believes that Democrats are as much male supremacists as the Republicans. And I am not the only one.

But getting back on track, I can’t vote for Republicans so long as this nonsense is a key part of their party, and it is. It is a bridge too far. So of the awful choices, it is the Democrats at this point.


Did you vote for him in November because it was a bridge too far even then. WE knew what MAGA and dumpy stood for. None of this shocks most people.


No, of course not. I voted for Harris.

I hate the Democrats but I can’t vote Republican.


I hear you....she wasn't my favorite candidate but she was the only choice.
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Anonymous wrote:NP. I’m a deeply disillusioned lifelong Democrat who basically despises the entire Democratic party now, but cannot stomach voting Republican. It’s stuff like this that is why. It’s just too endemic in the Republican party.


Same, very frustrated with Democrats, but I cannot stomach how the Republican party overlooks this stuff with "whataboutism." As a woman, also cannot stomach how they embrace Christian nationalists like Hesgeth or Kirk who use the bible as an excuse for viewing women as subservient.


PP here. I agree, though truthfully I don’t think that the Democrats are better as far as viewing women as subservient. They just use different language.

But these texts are consistent with the whataboutism language of Republicans (they just dismiss it) and it’s revolting. The lack of concern is horrible.


2 of the last three nominees for president were women.
Pro-choice so women can manage their own bodies
Pro child care, so women who want to, can partake in the work place
Pro-equal pay, so women and men earn the same salary for the same work

I could go on, but really not sure how you get to the bolded.


This is off topic for this thread, and you can start a different thread if you are truly interested, but one of the absolutely most distasteful aspects of the modern Democratic Party is that the narrow world view they prescribe and hold is so dogmatic and quasi-religious in nature that they cannot conceive of disagreement. I am an extremely reluctant Democrat voter who believes that Democrats are as much male supremacists as the Republicans. And I am not the only one.

But getting back on track, I can’t vote for Republicans so long as this nonsense is a key part of their party, and it is. It is a bridge too far. So of the awful choices, it is the Democrats at this point.


Did you vote for him in November because it was a bridge too far even then. WE knew what MAGA and dumpy stood for. None of this shocks most people.


No, of course not. I voted for Harris.

I hate the Democrats but I can’t vote Republican.


I hear you....she wasn't my favorite candidate but she was the only choice.


Yes. Very depressing choices.

My takeaway from all of this is that the Republicans could have a nearly bulletproof lock on the presidency and probably even Congress if they could marginalize their grotesque Nazi and incel wing, but right now that wing is not actually a wing at all; it is core to the party. Very few people outside of the DCUM bubble actually like Democrats. The Republicans could pick up a lot of reluctant Democrats but not if they don’t shut down their Nazi incels. And so far they aren’t doing that.

Horrible choices. Well, not really a choice at this point.

(That having been said if I was voting in VA, I couldn’t vote for Jones. I would not vote at all in that one. My reluctance has boundaries.)
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This is Angelo Elia, a legislative correspondent for Congressman Dave Taylor. During a Zoom meeting today, he had an American nazi flag displayed in the background.

But sure, we can pretend it's just a "college group chat" that's using Nazi language. We can pretend that the staffer-class of the GOP isn't proudly supporting Nazism.
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Anonymous wrote:NP. I’m a deeply disillusioned lifelong Democrat who basically despises the entire Democratic party now, but cannot stomach voting Republican. It’s stuff like this that is why. It’s just too endemic in the Republican party.


Same, very frustrated with Democrats, but I cannot stomach how the Republican party overlooks this stuff with "whataboutism." As a woman, also cannot stomach how they embrace Christian nationalists like Hesgeth or Kirk who use the bible as an excuse for viewing women as subservient.


PP here. I agree, though truthfully I don’t think that the Democrats are better as far as viewing women as subservient. They just use different language.

But these texts are consistent with the whataboutism language of Republicans (they just dismiss it) and it’s revolting. The lack of concern is horrible.


2 of the last three nominees for president were women.
Pro-choice so women can manage their own bodies
Pro child care, so women who want to, can partake in the work place
Pro-equal pay, so women and men earn the same salary for the same work

I could go on, but really not sure how you get to the bolded.


This is off topic for this thread, and you can start a different thread if you are truly interested, but one of the absolutely most distasteful aspects of the modern Democratic Party is that the narrow world view they prescribe and hold is so dogmatic and quasi-religious in nature that they cannot conceive of disagreement. I am an extremely reluctant Democrat voter who believes that Democrats are as much male supremacists as the Republicans. And I am not the only one.

But getting back on track, I can’t vote for Republicans so long as this nonsense is a key part of their party, and it is. It is a bridge too far. So of the awful choices, it is the Democrats at this point.


There is plenty of disagreement. Policy disagreement should be debated and compromised on. However, suggesting it is ok for racism and the other isms are not a policy disagreement. That is where the sidewalk ends.
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Anonymous wrote:NP. I’m a deeply disillusioned lifelong Democrat who basically despises the entire Democratic party now, but cannot stomach voting Republican. It’s stuff like this that is why. It’s just too endemic in the Republican party.


Same, very frustrated with Democrats, but I cannot stomach how the Republican party overlooks this stuff with "whataboutism." As a woman, also cannot stomach how they embrace Christian nationalists like Hesgeth or Kirk who use the bible as an excuse for viewing women as subservient.


PP here. I agree, though truthfully I don’t think that the Democrats are better as far as viewing women as subservient. They just use different language.

But these texts are consistent with the whataboutism language of Republicans (they just dismiss it) and it’s revolting. The lack of concern is horrible.


2 of the last three nominees for president were women.
Pro-choice so women can manage their own bodies
Pro child care, so women who want to, can partake in the work place
Pro-equal pay, so women and men earn the same salary for the same work

I could go on, but really not sure how you get to the bolded.


This is off topic for this thread, and you can start a different thread if you are truly interested, but one of the absolutely most distasteful aspects of the modern Democratic Party is that the narrow world view they prescribe and hold is so dogmatic and quasi-religious in nature that they cannot conceive of disagreement. I am an extremely reluctant Democrat voter who believes that Democrats are as much male supremacists as the Republicans. And I am not the only one.

But getting back on track, I can’t vote for Republicans so long as this nonsense is a key part of their party, and it is. It is a bridge too far. So of the awful choices, it is the Democrats at this point.


Did you vote for him in November because it was a bridge too far even then. WE knew what MAGA and dumpy stood for. None of this shocks most people.


No, of course not. I voted for Harris.

I hate the Democrats but I can’t vote Republican.


I hear you....she wasn't my favorite candidate but she was the only choice.


Yes. Very depressing choices.

My takeaway from all of this is that the Republicans could have a nearly bulletproof lock on the presidency and probably even Congress if they could marginalize their grotesque Nazi and incel wing, but right now that wing is not actually a wing at all; it is core to the party. Very few people outside of the DCUM bubble actually like Democrats. The Republicans could pick up a lot of reluctant Democrats but not if they don’t shut down their Nazi incels. And so far they aren’t doing that.

Horrible choices. Well, not really a choice at this point.

(That having been said if I was voting in VA, I couldn’t vote for Jones. I would not vote at all in that one. My reluctance has boundaries.)


You couldn't pay me to vote for any republican after the MAGA years. I know a lot of republicans who feel the same.
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Anonymous wrote:https://bsky.app/profile/santiagomayer.com/post/3m3awrotnjt27

This is Angelo Elia, a legislative correspondent for Congressman Dave Taylor. During a Zoom meeting today, he had an American nazi flag displayed in the background.

But sure, we can pretend it's just a "college group chat" that's using Nazi language. We can pretend that the staffer-class of the GOP isn't proudly supporting Nazism.


This is the Republican Party
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Anonymous wrote:https://bsky.app/profile/santiagomayer.com/post/3m3awrotnjt27

This is Angelo Elia, a legislative correspondent for Congressman Dave Taylor. During a Zoom meeting today, he had an American nazi flag displayed in the background.

But sure, we can pretend it's just a "college group chat" that's using Nazi language. We can pretend that the staffer-class of the GOP isn't proudly supporting Nazism.


This is the Republican Party


yup
Anonymous
I'm not going to body shame these pathetic people... we're better than that. But I am going to shame that one idiot for those hideous transitions lenses.. dear god.
Anonymous
Republicans are obviously very sorry about all this racism and anti-semitism in their party:

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Anonymous wrote:NP. I’m a deeply disillusioned lifelong Democrat who basically despises the entire Democratic party now, but cannot stomach voting Republican. It’s stuff like this that is why. It’s just too endemic in the Republican party.


Same, very frustrated with Democrats, but I cannot stomach how the Republican party overlooks this stuff with "whataboutism." As a woman, also cannot stomach how they embrace Christian nationalists like Hesgeth or Kirk who use the bible as an excuse for viewing women as subservient.


PP here. I agree, though truthfully I don’t think that the Democrats are better as far as viewing women as subservient. They just use different language.

But these texts are consistent with the whataboutism language of Republicans (they just dismiss it) and it’s revolting. The lack of concern is horrible.


2 of the last three nominees for president were women.
Pro-choice so women can manage their own bodies
Pro child care, so women who want to, can partake in the work place
Pro-equal pay, so women and men earn the same salary for the same work

I could go on, but really not sure how you get to the bolded.


This is off topic for this thread, and you can start a different thread if you are truly interested, but one of the absolutely most distasteful aspects of the modern Democratic Party is that the narrow world view they prescribe and hold is so dogmatic and quasi-religious in nature that they cannot conceive of disagreement. I am an extremely reluctant Democrat voter who believes that Democrats are as much male supremacists as the Republicans. And I am not the only one.

But getting back on track, I can’t vote for Republicans so long as this nonsense is a key part of their party, and it is. It is a bridge too far. So of the awful choices, it is the Democrats at this point.


Did you vote for him in November because it was a bridge too far even then. WE knew what MAGA and dumpy stood for. None of this shocks most people.


No, of course not. I voted for Harris.

I hate the Democrats but I can’t vote Republican.


I hear you....she wasn't my favorite candidate but she was the only choice.


Yes. Very depressing choices.

My takeaway from all of this is that the Republicans could have a nearly bulletproof lock on the presidency and probably even Congress if they could marginalize their grotesque Nazi and incel wing, but right now that wing is not actually a wing at all; it is core to the party. Very few people outside of the DCUM bubble actually like Democrats. The Republicans could pick up a lot of reluctant Democrats but not if they don’t shut down their Nazi incels. And so far they aren’t doing that.

Horrible choices. Well, not really a choice at this point.

(That having been said if I was voting in VA, I couldn’t vote for Jones. I would not vote at all in that one. My reluctance has boundaries.)


Well, wherever you visit clearly aligns with the bubble you live in here because I’m in various parts of the country from time to time, rural and urban, and they do not comport with your vision here. Of course, if I just spent time in the country clubs of those various places, then maybe that would be the case.
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Anonymous wrote:NP. I’m a deeply disillusioned lifelong Democrat who basically despises the entire Democratic party now, but cannot stomach voting Republican. It’s stuff like this that is why. It’s just too endemic in the Republican party.


Same, very frustrated with Democrats, but I cannot stomach how the Republican party overlooks this stuff with "whataboutism." As a woman, also cannot stomach how they embrace Christian nationalists like Hesgeth or Kirk who use the bible as an excuse for viewing women as subservient.


PP here. I agree, though truthfully I don’t think that the Democrats are better as far as viewing women as subservient. They just use different language.

But these texts are consistent with the whataboutism language of Republicans (they just dismiss it) and it’s revolting. The lack of concern is horrible.


2 of the last three nominees for president were women.
Pro-choice so women can manage their own bodies
Pro child care, so women who want to, can partake in the work place
Pro-equal pay, so women and men earn the same salary for the same work

I could go on, but really not sure how you get to the bolded.


This is off topic for this thread, and you can start a different thread if you are truly interested, but one of the absolutely most distasteful aspects of the modern Democratic Party is that the narrow world view they prescribe and hold is so dogmatic and quasi-religious in nature that they cannot conceive of disagreement. I am an extremely reluctant Democrat voter who believes that Democrats are as much male supremacists as the Republicans. And I am not the only one.

But getting back on track, I can’t vote for Republicans so long as this nonsense is a key part of their party, and it is. It is a bridge too far. So of the awful choices, it is the Democrats at this point.


There is plenty of disagreement. Policy disagreement should be debated and compromised on. However, suggesting it is ok for racism and the other isms are not a policy disagreement. That is where the sidewalk ends.


Had this convo with our then teen son who was arguing with me about Dems. I said, “it’s one thing to argue about foreign affairs, tax policy, etc, but when one party tells me that blacks, Jews, Latinos, women are the enemy, then I don’t care about one’s position on interhemispheric affairs or changing the tax rates, I will not vote for a single one.”
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Anonymous wrote:NP. I’m a deeply disillusioned lifelong Democrat who basically despises the entire Democratic party now, but cannot stomach voting Republican. It’s stuff like this that is why. It’s just too endemic in the Republican party.


Same, very frustrated with Democrats, but I cannot stomach how the Republican party overlooks this stuff with "whataboutism." As a woman, also cannot stomach how they embrace Christian nationalists like Hesgeth or Kirk who use the bible as an excuse for viewing women as subservient.


PP here. I agree, though truthfully I don’t think that the Democrats are better as far as viewing women as subservient. They just use different language.

But these texts are consistent with the whataboutism language of Republicans (they just dismiss it) and it’s revolting. The lack of concern is horrible.


2 of the last three nominees for president were women.
Pro-choice so women can manage their own bodies
Pro child care, so women who want to, can partake in the work place
Pro-equal pay, so women and men earn the same salary for the same work

I could go on, but really not sure how you get to the bolded.


This is off topic for this thread, and you can start a different thread if you are truly interested, but one of the absolutely most distasteful aspects of the modern Democratic Party is that the narrow world view they prescribe and hold is so dogmatic and quasi-religious in nature that they cannot conceive of disagreement. I am an extremely reluctant Democrat voter who believes that Democrats are as much male supremacists as the Republicans. And I am not the only one.

But getting back on track, I can’t vote for Republicans so long as this nonsense is a key part of their party, and it is. It is a bridge too far. So of the awful choices, it is the Democrats at this point.


There is plenty of disagreement. Policy disagreement should be debated and compromised on. However, suggesting it is ok for racism and the other isms are not a policy disagreement. That is where the sidewalk ends.


Had this convo with our then teen son who was arguing with me about Dems. I said, “it’s one thing to argue about foreign affairs, tax policy, etc, but when one party tells me that blacks, Jews, Latinos, women are the enemy, then I don’t care about one’s position on interhemispheric affairs or changing the tax rates, I will not vote for a single one.”


Good distinction!
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