Who can afford First Class prices?

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Anonymous wrote:We are traveling to Europe to visit our kid studying abroad over Thanksgiving break. I think that constitutes peak pricing. Round trip business is $8,000 plus on our route, leaving from IAD. Half the flights are already sold out of business seats. Wound up paying around $14,000 for three people using a combo of points and we are flying back premium economy. Cost is going to be very time specific. Also, not everyone is going to London or Paris.

Just looked for business class to Florence (popular spot for study abroad, figured), Nov 25, returning Dec 1, on Swiss through Zurich. $3,100 roundtrip in lie flat business.

If I’m going to Europe, with a job and other kids, I’m going weekend to weekend, not random weekdays. Most kids can miss Thanksgiving week of school, but we wouldn’t be taking off the following Monday.

$3200 on Swiss Nov 22-30.

I guess that’s nice if one is going to Florence, but we aren’t, and the fares for the route we need is 8,000 plus four round trip business per person. Not sure why you want to debate this. I’m not saying there isnt cheaper business seats to Europe, but there are also routes and time period when it is pretty expensive.

It appears you are going to Copenhagen for that last week of November? Looks like you can go with a quick stop in Zurich for $4700. Yeah I wouldn't like an extra 3 hours, but seems pretty reasonable to save $3300/person.

As I said, we are using a combination of points and cash so paying less than that.

Okay, now even more confused, because Nov 22-29 nonstop on SAS business IAD-CPH is $4500.

Copenhagen is not our final destination.

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Anonymous wrote:We are traveling to Europe to visit our kid studying abroad over Thanksgiving break. I think that constitutes peak pricing. Round trip business is $8,000 plus on our route, leaving from IAD. Half the flights are already sold out of business seats. Wound up paying around $14,000 for three people using a combo of points and we are flying back premium economy. Cost is going to be very time specific. Also, not everyone is going to London or Paris.

Just looked for business class to Florence (popular spot for study abroad, figured), Nov 25, returning Dec 1, on Swiss through Zurich. $3,100 roundtrip in lie flat business.

If I’m going to Europe, with a job and other kids, I’m going weekend to weekend, not random weekdays. Most kids can miss Thanksgiving week of school, but we wouldn’t be taking off the following Monday.

$3200 on Swiss Nov 22-30.

I guess that’s nice if one is going to Florence, but we aren’t, and the fares for the route we need is 8,000 plus four round trip business per person. Not sure why you want to debate this. I’m not saying there isnt cheaper business seats to Europe, but there are also routes and time period when it is pretty expensive.

It appears you are going to Copenhagen for that last week of November? Looks like you can go with a quick stop in Zurich for $4700. Yeah I wouldn't like an extra 3 hours, but seems pretty reasonable to save $3300/person.

As I said, we are using a combination of points and cash so paying less than that.

Okay, now even more confused, because Nov 22-29 nonstop on SAS business IAD-CPH is $4500.

Copenhagen is not our final destination.

This is an incredible string of comments. You say a business class ticket to an unspecified place in Europe the last week of November is $8000/person. You also say multiple flights on SAS are sold out for those dates in business class.

When asked about the sold out portion, you give incomplete information that is still wrong. When presented with some flights during the week, you say "yeah but we would only go on the weekend". When presented with flights on the weekend you say "yeah but that's not where we are going". When presented with an option with a layover in Zurich, you say you wouldn't take that, but apparently you are going somewhere that requires a layover, if it's not Copenhagen, since that's SAS's hub. How about this- you say where you are going, on what dates, and then somehow we can examine the original claim that "Round trip business is $8,000 plus on our route".

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Anonymous wrote:We are traveling to Europe to visit our kid studying abroad over Thanksgiving break. I think that constitutes peak pricing. Round trip business is $8,000 plus on our route, leaving from IAD. Half the flights are already sold out of business seats. Wound up paying around $14,000 for three people using a combo of points and we are flying back premium economy. Cost is going to be very time specific. Also, not everyone is going to London or Paris.

Just looked for business class to Florence (popular spot for study abroad, figured), Nov 25, returning Dec 1, on Swiss through Zurich. $3,100 roundtrip in lie flat business.

If I’m going to Europe, with a job and other kids, I’m going weekend to weekend, not random weekdays. Most kids can miss Thanksgiving week of school, but we wouldn’t be taking off the following Monday.

$3200 on Swiss Nov 22-30.

I guess that’s nice if one is going to Florence, but we aren’t, and the fares for the route we need is 8,000 plus four round trip business per person. Not sure why you want to debate this. I’m not saying there isnt cheaper business seats to Europe, but there are also routes and time period when it is pretty expensive.

It appears you are going to Copenhagen for that last week of November? Looks like you can go with a quick stop in Zurich for $4700. Yeah I wouldn't like an extra 3 hours, but seems pretty reasonable to save $3300/person.

As I said, we are using a combination of points and cash so paying less than that.

Okay, now even more confused, because Nov 22-29 nonstop on SAS business IAD-CPH is $4500.

Copenhagen is not our final destination.

Just because you seemed so interested, I searched for our exact flight plan on SwissAir and the cost per person for round trip was $6916 pre tax.

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Anonymous wrote:We are traveling to Europe to visit our kid studying abroad over Thanksgiving break. I think that constitutes peak pricing. Round trip business is $8,000 plus on our route, leaving from IAD. Half the flights are already sold out of business seats. Wound up paying around $14,000 for three people using a combo of points and we are flying back premium economy. Cost is going to be very time specific. Also, not everyone is going to London or Paris.

Just looked for business class to Florence (popular spot for study abroad, figured), Nov 25, returning Dec 1, on Swiss through Zurich. $3,100 roundtrip in lie flat business.

If I’m going to Europe, with a job and other kids, I’m going weekend to weekend, not random weekdays. Most kids can miss Thanksgiving week of school, but we wouldn’t be taking off the following Monday.

$3200 on Swiss Nov 22-30.

I guess that’s nice if one is going to Florence, but we aren’t, and the fares for the route we need is 8,000 plus four round trip business per person. Not sure why you want to debate this. I’m not saying there isnt cheaper business seats to Europe, but there are also routes and time period when it is pretty expensive.

It appears you are going to Copenhagen for that last week of November? Looks like you can go with a quick stop in Zurich for $4700. Yeah I wouldn't like an extra 3 hours, but seems pretty reasonable to save $3300/person.

As I said, we are using a combination of points and cash so paying less than that.

Okay, now even more confused, because Nov 22-29 nonstop on SAS business IAD-CPH is $4500.

Copenhagen is not our final destination.

Just because you seemed so interested, I searched for our exact flight plan on SwissAir and the cost per person for round trip was $6916 pre tax.

Pre tax? By US law airfares have to be displayed with all mandatory taxes and fees included.

https://www.transportation.gov/individuals/aviation-consumer-protection/buying-ticket#:~:text=It%20is%20relatively%20easy%20to,Restrictions%20on%20Tickets

I continue to be confused.

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Anonymous wrote:We are traveling to Europe to visit our kid studying abroad over Thanksgiving break. I think that constitutes peak pricing. Round trip business is $8,000 plus on our route, leaving from IAD. Half the flights are already sold out of business seats. Wound up paying around $14,000 for three people using a combo of points and we are flying back premium economy. Cost is going to be very time specific. Also, not everyone is going to London or Paris.

Just looked for business class to Florence (popular spot for study abroad, figured), Nov 25, returning Dec 1, on Swiss through Zurich. $3,100 roundtrip in lie flat business.

If I’m going to Europe, with a job and other kids, I’m going weekend to weekend, not random weekdays. Most kids can miss Thanksgiving week of school, but we wouldn’t be taking off the following Monday.

$3200 on Swiss Nov 22-30.

I guess that’s nice if one is going to Florence, but we aren’t, and the fares for the route we need is 8,000 plus four round trip business per person. Not sure why you want to debate this. I’m not saying there isnt cheaper business seats to Europe, but there are also routes and time period when it is pretty expensive.

It appears you are going to Copenhagen for that last week of November? Looks like you can go with a quick stop in Zurich for $4700. Yeah I wouldn't like an extra 3 hours, but seems pretty reasonable to save $3300/person.

As I said, we are using a combination of points and cash so paying less than that.

Okay, now even more confused, because Nov 22-29 nonstop on SAS business IAD-CPH is $4500.

Copenhagen is not our final destination.

Just because you seemed so interested, I searched for our exact flight plan on SwissAir and the cost per person for round trip was $6916 pre tax.

Pre tax? By US law airfares have to be displayed with all mandatory taxes and fees included.

https://www.transportation.gov/individuals/aviation-consumer-protection/buying-ticket#:~:text=It%20is%20relatively%20easy%20to,Restrictions%20on%20Tickets

I continue to be confused.

Also, boom, saved $4k right there if flying as a family of 4! Big win.

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Why is everyone responding with business class fares when OP specifically said first class?

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Anonymous wrote:Why is everyone responding with business class fares when OP specifically said first class?

"I will look up the cost of first class/business lay-down flat seats"

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Anonymous wrote:Why is everyone responding with business class fares when OP specifically said first class?

"I will look up the cost of first class/business lay-down flat seats"

And that's reasonable, because most long haul international carriers no longer have separate first and business class cabins. They have pretty much merged into a single business class cabin with lie flat seats that are nicer than "first class" seats were 30 years ago.

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Anonymous wrote:We are traveling to Europe to visit our kid studying abroad over Thanksgiving break. I think that constitutes peak pricing. Round trip business is $8,000 plus on our route, leaving from IAD. Half the flights are already sold out of business seats. Wound up paying around $14,000 for three people using a combo of points and we are flying back premium economy. Cost is going to be very time specific. Also, not everyone is going to London or Paris.

Just looked for business class to Florence (popular spot for study abroad, figured), Nov 25, returning Dec 1, on Swiss through Zurich. $3,100 roundtrip in lie flat business.

If I’m going to Europe, with a job and other kids, I’m going weekend to weekend, not random weekdays. Most kids can miss Thanksgiving week of school, but we wouldn’t be taking off the following Monday.

$3200 on Swiss Nov 22-30.

I guess that’s nice if one is going to Florence, but we aren’t, and the fares for the route we need is 8,000 plus four round trip business per person. Not sure why you want to debate this. I’m not saying there isnt cheaper business seats to Europe, but there are also routes and time period when it is pretty expensive.

It appears you are going to Copenhagen for that last week of November? Looks like you can go with a quick stop in Zurich for $4700. Yeah I wouldn't like an extra 3 hours, but seems pretty reasonable to save $3300/person.

As I said, we are using a combination of points and cash so paying less than that.

Okay, now even more confused, because Nov 22-29 nonstop on SAS business IAD-CPH is $4500.

Copenhagen is not our final destination.

Just because you seemed so interested, I searched for our exact flight plan on SwissAir and the cost per person for round trip was $6916 pre tax.

On British Air, it’s 10,033 per person., pre tax. I’m not flying either of these airlines, but would agree Swiss Air might be worth checking out in the future.
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Anonymous wrote:We are traveling to Europe to visit our kid studying abroad over Thanksgiving break. I think that constitutes peak pricing. Round trip business is $8,000 plus on our route, leaving from IAD. Half the flights are already sold out of business seats. Wound up paying around $14,000 for three people using a combo of points and we are flying back premium economy. Cost is going to be very time specific. Also, not everyone is going to London or Paris.

Just looked for business class to Florence (popular spot for study abroad, figured), Nov 25, returning Dec 1, on Swiss through Zurich. $3,100 roundtrip in lie flat business.

If I’m going to Europe, with a job and other kids, I’m going weekend to weekend, not random weekdays. Most kids can miss Thanksgiving week of school, but we wouldn’t be taking off the following Monday.

$3200 on Swiss Nov 22-30.

I guess that’s nice if one is going to Florence, but we aren’t, and the fares for the route we need is 8,000 plus four round trip business per person. Not sure why you want to debate this. I’m not saying there isnt cheaper business seats to Europe, but there are also routes and time period when it is pretty expensive.

It appears you are going to Copenhagen for that last week of November? Looks like you can go with a quick stop in Zurich for $4700. Yeah I wouldn't like an extra 3 hours, but seems pretty reasonable to save $3300/person.

As I said, we are using a combination of points and cash so paying less than that.

Okay, now even more confused, because Nov 22-29 nonstop on SAS business IAD-CPH is $4500.

Copenhagen is not our final destination.

Just because you seemed so interested, I searched for our exact flight plan on SwissAir and the cost per person for round trip was $6916 pre tax.

On British Air, it’s 10,033 per person., pre tax. I’m not flying either of these airlines, but would agree Swiss Air might be worth checking out in the future.
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So still not saying...where. And still quoting a "pre tax" price even though such a thing doesn't really exist with airfares sold in the United States. Just an incredible exchange.

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Anonymous wrote:We are traveling to Europe to visit our kid studying abroad over Thanksgiving break. I think that constitutes peak pricing. Round trip business is $8,000 plus on our route, leaving from IAD. Half the flights are already sold out of business seats. Wound up paying around $14,000 for three people using a combo of points and we are flying back premium economy. Cost is going to be very time specific. Also, not everyone is going to London or Paris.

Just looked for business class to Florence (popular spot for study abroad, figured), Nov 25, returning Dec 1, on Swiss through Zurich. $3,100 roundtrip in lie flat business.

If I’m going to Europe, with a job and other kids, I’m going weekend to weekend, not random weekdays. Most kids can miss Thanksgiving week of school, but we wouldn’t be taking off the following Monday.

$3200 on Swiss Nov 22-30.

I guess that’s nice if one is going to Florence, but we aren’t, and the fares for the route we need is 8,000 plus four round trip business per person. Not sure why you want to debate this. I’m not saying there isnt cheaper business seats to Europe, but there are also routes and time period when it is pretty expensive.

It appears you are going to Copenhagen for that last week of November? Looks like you can go with a quick stop in Zurich for $4700. Yeah I wouldn't like an extra 3 hours, but seems pretty reasonable to save $3300/person.

As I said, we are using a combination of points and cash so paying less than that.

Okay, now even more confused, because Nov 22-29 nonstop on SAS business IAD-CPH is $4500.

Copenhagen is not our final destination.

Just because you seemed so interested, I searched for our exact flight plan on SwissAir and the cost per person for round trip was $6916 pre tax.

On British Air, it’s 10,033 per person., pre tax. I’m not flying either of these airlines, but would agree Swiss Air might be worth checking out in the future.
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So still not saying...where. And still quoting a "pre tax" price even though such a thing doesn't really exist with airfares sold in the United States. Just an incredible exchange.

Because I don’t want to share my itinerary with a weirdo on dcum who has been behaving in a stalkerish way for the past hour and a half.

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Anonymous wrote:We are traveling to Europe to visit our kid studying abroad over Thanksgiving break. I think that constitutes peak pricing. Round trip business is $8,000 plus on our route, leaving from IAD. Half the flights are already sold out of business seats. Wound up paying around $14,000 for three people using a combo of points and we are flying back premium economy. Cost is going to be very time specific. Also, not everyone is going to London or Paris.

Just looked for business class to Florence (popular spot for study abroad, figured), Nov 25, returning Dec 1, on Swiss through Zurich. $3,100 roundtrip in lie flat business.

If I’m going to Europe, with a job and other kids, I’m going weekend to weekend, not random weekdays. Most kids can miss Thanksgiving week of school, but we wouldn’t be taking off the following Monday.

$3200 on Swiss Nov 22-30.

I guess that’s nice if one is going to Florence, but we aren’t, and the fares for the route we need is 8,000 plus four round trip business per person. Not sure why you want to debate this. I’m not saying there isnt cheaper business seats to Europe, but there are also routes and time period when it is pretty expensive.

It appears you are going to Copenhagen for that last week of November? Looks like you can go with a quick stop in Zurich for $4700. Yeah I wouldn't like an extra 3 hours, but seems pretty reasonable to save $3300/person.

As I said, we are using a combination of points and cash so paying less than that.

Okay, now even more confused, because Nov 22-29 nonstop on SAS business IAD-CPH is $4500.

Copenhagen is not our final destination.

Just because you seemed so interested, I searched for our exact flight plan on SwissAir and the cost per person for round trip was $6916 pre tax.

On British Air, it’s 10,033 per person., pre tax. I’m not flying either of these airlines, but would agree Swiss Air might be worth checking out in the future.
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So still not saying...where. And still quoting a "pre tax" price even though such a thing doesn't really exist with airfares sold in the United States. Just an incredible exchange.

Because I don’t want to share my itinerary with a weirdo on dcum who has been behaving in a stalkerish way for the past hour and a half.

Me, waiting at the SAS counter at Dulles for 2 days straight.

You, checking in online and walking right behind me without me noticing.

Me- "Foiled again"!

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Anonymous wrote:We are traveling to Europe to visit our kid studying abroad over Thanksgiving break. I think that constitutes peak pricing. Round trip business is $8,000 plus on our route, leaving from IAD. Half the flights are already sold out of business seats. Wound up paying around $14,000 for three people using a combo of points and we are flying back premium economy. Cost is going to be very time specific. Also, not everyone is going to London or Paris.

Just looked for business class to Florence (popular spot for study abroad, figured), Nov 25, returning Dec 1, on Swiss through Zurich. $3,100 roundtrip in lie flat business.

If I’m going to Europe, with a job and other kids, I’m going weekend to weekend, not random weekdays. Most kids can miss Thanksgiving week of school, but we wouldn’t be taking off the following Monday.

$3200 on Swiss Nov 22-30.

I guess that’s nice if one is going to Florence, but we aren’t, and the fares for the route we need is 8,000 plus four round trip business per person. Not sure why you want to debate this. I’m not saying there isnt cheaper business seats to Europe, but there are also routes and time period when it is pretty expensive.

It appears you are going to Copenhagen for that last week of November? Looks like you can go with a quick stop in Zurich for $4700. Yeah I wouldn't like an extra 3 hours, but seems pretty reasonable to save $3300/person.

As I said, we are using a combination of points and cash so paying less than that.

Okay, now even more confused, because Nov 22-29 nonstop on SAS business IAD-CPH is $4500.

Copenhagen is not our final destination.

Just because you seemed so interested, I searched for our exact flight plan on SwissAir and the cost per person for round trip was $6916 pre tax.

On British Air, it’s 10,033 per person., pre tax. I’m not flying either of these airlines, but would agree Swiss Air might be worth checking out in the future.
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So still not saying...where. And still quoting a "pre tax" price even though such a thing doesn't really exist with airfares sold in the United States. Just an incredible exchange.

What I think really happened- you searched SAS' website only to get prices, saw the cash price, and decided that was the price. You never looked at any other airlines, and thus have no idea what other options/prices there were.

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Anonymous wrote:We are traveling to Europe to visit our kid studying abroad over Thanksgiving break. I think that constitutes peak pricing. Round trip business is $8,000 plus on our route, leaving from IAD. Half the flights are already sold out of business seats. Wound up paying around $14,000 for three people using a combo of points and we are flying back premium economy. Cost is going to be very time specific. Also, not everyone is going to London or Paris.

Just looked for business class to Florence (popular spot for study abroad, figured), Nov 25, returning Dec 1, on Swiss through Zurich. $3,100 roundtrip in lie flat business.

If I’m going to Europe, with a job and other kids, I’m going weekend to weekend, not random weekdays. Most kids can miss Thanksgiving week of school, but we wouldn’t be taking off the following Monday.

$3200 on Swiss Nov 22-30.

I guess that’s nice if one is going to Florence, but we aren’t, and the fares for the route we need is 8,000 plus four round trip business per person. Not sure why you want to debate this. I’m not saying there isnt cheaper business seats to Europe, but there are also routes and time period when it is pretty expensive.

It appears you are going to Copenhagen for that last week of November? Looks like you can go with a quick stop in Zurich for $4700. Yeah I wouldn't like an extra 3 hours, but seems pretty reasonable to save $3300/person.

As I said, we are using a combination of points and cash so paying less than that.

Okay, now even more confused, because Nov 22-29 nonstop on SAS business IAD-CPH is $4500.

Copenhagen is not our final destination.

Just because you seemed so interested, I searched for our exact flight plan on SwissAir and the cost per person for round trip was $6916 pre tax.

On British Air, it’s 10,033 per person., pre tax. I’m not flying either of these airlines, but would agree Swiss Air might be worth checking out in the future.
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So still not saying...where. And still quoting a "pre tax" price even though such a thing doesn't really exist with airfares sold in the United States. Just an incredible exchange.

What I think really happened- you searched SAS' website only to get prices, saw the cash price, and decided that was the price. You never looked at any other airlines, and thus have no idea what other options/prices there were.

You’d be wrong. I looked at British Air, Lufthansa, KLM, Air France and others. As you can see, it’s an expensive flight even on Swiss Air. And this ends my bizarre discourse with some stranger.

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Anonymous wrote:We are traveling to Europe to visit our kid studying abroad over Thanksgiving break. I think that constitutes peak pricing. Round trip business is $8,000 plus on our route, leaving from IAD. Half the flights are already sold out of business seats. Wound up paying around $14,000 for three people using a combo of points and we are flying back premium economy. Cost is going to be very time specific. Also, not everyone is going to London or Paris.

Just looked for business class to Florence (popular spot for study abroad, figured), Nov 25, returning Dec 1, on Swiss through Zurich. $3,100 roundtrip in lie flat business.

If I’m going to Europe, with a job and other kids, I’m going weekend to weekend, not random weekdays. Most kids can miss Thanksgiving week of school, but we wouldn’t be taking off the following Monday.

$3200 on Swiss Nov 22-30.

I guess that’s nice if one is going to Florence, but we aren’t, and the fares for the route we need is 8,000 plus four round trip business per person. Not sure why you want to debate this. I’m not saying there isnt cheaper business seats to Europe, but there are also routes and time period when it is pretty expensive.

It appears you are going to Copenhagen for that last week of November? Looks like you can go with a quick stop in Zurich for $4700. Yeah I wouldn't like an extra 3 hours, but seems pretty reasonable to save $3300/person.

As I said, we are using a combination of points and cash so paying less than that.

Okay, now even more confused, because Nov 22-29 nonstop on SAS business IAD-CPH is $4500.

Copenhagen is not our final destination.

Just because you seemed so interested, I searched for our exact flight plan on SwissAir and the cost per person for round trip was $6916 pre tax.

On British Air, it’s 10,033 per person., pre tax. I’m not flying either of these airlines, but would agree Swiss Air might be worth checking out in the future.
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So still not saying...where. And still quoting a "pre tax" price even though such a thing doesn't really exist with airfares sold in the United States. Just an incredible exchange.

What I think really happened- you searched SAS' website only to get prices, saw the cash price, and decided that was the price. You never looked at any other airlines, and thus have no idea what other options/prices there were.

You’d be wrong. I looked at British Air, Lufthansa, KLM, Air France and others. As you can see, it’s an expensive flight even on Swiss Air. And this ends my bizarre discourse with some stranger.

Have a nice trip, glad I could have saved $4k on your hypothetical trip.