Trump and RFK Jr. to Ban COVID-19 Vaccine ‘Within Months’

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I live in Massachusetts and this news has me sick to my stomach tonight.

I had called around earlier in the week and nobody has the new vaccine in stock yet supposed to be released mid September but who knows - maybe they won’t let us have it at all. If the corporate shills at Walgreens and Walmart follow in CVS’s footsteps . . .

I’ve left a message with my doctor’s office to see if they can administer the vaccine but I’m sure they don’t have newest updated vaccine in stock yet either. And maybe this administration isn’t going to let it be released.

Canada needs to offer mass vaccination to US citizens at their border cities - obviously we’ll have to pay whatever they ask but this is a humanitarian issue.

RFK Jr. wants the ‘mitochondrially challenged’ to just die, I think.

Hopefully they can administer it but if not they can write you an rx.

CVS isn’t honoring prescriptions for COVID vaccine in Massachusetts - or New Mexico or Nevada. Not sure why we get totally screwed but that’s what they’ve decided.

One can only assume that other corporate shills at Walgreens Walmart etc. will follow suit as they attempt to curry favor with the fascist dictator in the WH.

Thanks MAGA voters.

If they aren’t going to be able to be reimbursed, and their pharmacists aren’t legally allowed to administer according to state laws, then they aren’t really currying favor - they have no choice. The Covid vax is $150-200 per dose, quite expensive, and vials are multi-dose so all doses must be used within a certain time period or money lost.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is funny. Everyone on this thread wants the US healthcare system to be more like Europe and Canada, until it comes to the Covid vaccine. Someone upthread said Canada should be immunizing US citizens at the border. Do you know that Canada, like the EU, only vaccinates adults over 65 and those with certain conditions? Their restrictions are even tighter than these new US conditions. Literally, over half the US can get the vaccination because obesity is one of the conditions that makes one eligible; as is anxiety and depression. Pretty much everyone on this site is covered. So to call this a "humanitarian" crisis is beyond hysteria. And comes from a place of complete disinformation.

Stop with the lies. Canada strongly recommends it for vulnerable groups (not only age based), and makes it available to everyone, suggesting an annual booster is enough for average risk individuals. Canada also updates its guidance based on the latest statistics and scientific findings, noting that any “common” side effects (meaning those occurring in 10% or more people), such as a sore arm, are typically mild and transient.

https://www.canada.ca/en/public-health/services/publications/healthy-living/canadian-immunization-guide-part-4-active-vaccines/page-26-covid-19-vaccine.html

Well, actually, neither of you are completely correct. Availability is by province. Canada technicaly recommends it just for the vulnerable groups. Availability for those outside of the vulnerable groups varies, as I said, by province. The standard across most of the world is recommendation for the vulnerable. https://www.canada.ca/en/public-health/services/diseases/coronavirus-disease-covid-19/vaccines/how-vaccinated.html#a13

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is funny. Everyone on this thread wants the US healthcare system to be more like Europe and Canada, until it comes to the Covid vaccine. Someone upthread said Canada should be immunizing US citizens at the border. Do you know that Canada, like the EU, only vaccinates adults over 65 and those with certain conditions? Their restrictions are even tighter than these new US conditions. Literally, over half the US can get the vaccination because obesity is one of the conditions that makes one eligible; as is anxiety and depression. Pretty much everyone on this site is covered. So to call this a "humanitarian" crisis is beyond hysteria. And comes from a place of complete disinformation.

I’m sorry to point it out, but you are incorrect.
1.In Canada, anyone can be immunized with Covid vax once a year, and those high risk can be immunized twice a year.
2. Due to individual state laws in the USA, vaccines cannot be released if they are not approved by fda and ACIP. RFK has fired ACIP and tried to force cdc director to sign off on fake documents. This now means they are banned in a few states and require prescription AND proof of high-risk condition in order to get one.

This has been widely reported and clarified by reputable news sources in the past 24 hours.

That's not quite right. And what about the EU, hmm?

[Anonymous]

There’s trouble brewing with MMR and hep b and rsv vaccines approvals (nothing wrong with them, but RFK has set his sights on them and tried to force CDC director to revise and rewrite prior research showing safety and efficacy)- if you want one, go get it asap, before September 18. They may be banned too.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is funny. Everyone on this thread wants the US healthcare system to be more like Europe and Canada, until it comes to the Covid vaccine. Someone upthread said Canada should be immunizing US citizens at the border. Do you know that Canada, like the EU, only vaccinates adults over 65 and those with certain conditions? Their restrictions are even tighter than these new US conditions. Literally, over half the US can get the vaccination because obesity is one of the conditions that makes one eligible; as is anxiety and depression. Pretty much everyone on this site is covered. So to call this a "humanitarian" crisis is beyond hysteria. And comes from a place of complete disinformation.

I’m sorry to point it out, but you are incorrect.
1.In Canada, anyone can be immunized with Covid vax once a year, and those high risk can be immunized twice a year.
2. Due to individual state laws in the USA, vaccines cannot be released if they are not approved by fda and ACIP. RFK has fired ACIP and tried to force cdc director to sign off on fake documents. This now means they are banned in a few states and require prescription AND proof of high-risk condition in order to get one.

This has been widely reported and clarified by reputable news sources in the past 24 hours.

Sorry to point this out: they "can be," but it's not recommended.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is funny. Everyone on this thread wants the US healthcare system to be more like Europe and Canada, until it comes to the Covid vaccine. Someone upthread said Canada should be immunizing US citizens at the border. Do you know that Canada, like the EU, only vaccinates adults over 65 and those with certain conditions? Their restrictions are even tighter than these new US conditions. Literally, over half the US can get the vaccination because obesity is one of the conditions that makes one eligible; as is anxiety and depression. Pretty much everyone on this site is covered. So to call this a "humanitarian" crisis is beyond hysteria. And comes from a place of complete disinformation.

I’m sorry to point it out, but you are incorrect.
1.In Canada, anyone can be immunized with Covid vax once a year, and those high risk can be immunized twice a year.
2. Due to individual state laws in the USA, vaccines cannot be released if they are not approved by fda and ACIP. RFK has fired ACIP and tried to force cdc director to sign off on fake documents. This now means they are banned in a few states and require prescription AND proof of high-risk condition in order to get one.

This has been widely reported and clarified by reputable news sources in the past 24 hours.

That's not quite right. And what about the EU, hmm?

Same in the EU. Anyone of any age can get the covid vax free of charge, at least once a year. Some member states of the EU offer more than one a year to high risk groups, free of charge.
This information is easy to look up, you know. EMA. Not Fox News or gateway pundit.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is funny. Everyone on this thread wants the US healthcare system to be more like Europe and Canada, until it comes to the Covid vaccine. Someone upthread said Canada should be immunizing US citizens at the border. Do you know that Canada, like the EU, only vaccinates adults over 65 and those with certain conditions? Their restrictions are even tighter than these new US conditions. Literally, over half the US can get the vaccination because obesity is one of the conditions that makes one eligible; as is anxiety and depression. Pretty much everyone on this site is covered. So to call this a "humanitarian" crisis is beyond hysteria. And comes from a place of complete disinformation.

I’m sorry to point it out, but you are incorrect.
1.In Canada, anyone can be immunized with Covid vax once a year, and those high risk can be immunized twice a year.
2. Due to individual state laws in the USA, vaccines cannot be released if they are not approved by fda and ACIP. RFK has fired ACIP and tried to force cdc director to sign off on fake documents. This now means they are banned in a few states and require prescription AND proof of high-risk condition in order to get one.

This has been widely reported and clarified by reputable news sources in the past 24 hours.

Sorry to point this out: they "can be," but it's not recommended.

Www.canada.ca it’s under the title “recommendations”
And “Should receive”
Anyway, I’m not going to argue with you about it. It’s a shame you aren’t reading reputable news sources and websites, but it’s your choice. Just don’t spread misinformation to others. That’s how we got here in the first place.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I live in Massachusetts and this news has me sick to my stomach tonight.

I had called around earlier in the week and nobody has the new vaccine in stock yet supposed to be released mid September but who knows - maybe they won’t let us have it at all. If the corporate shills at Walgreens and Walmart follow in CVS’s footsteps . . .

I’ve left a message with my doctor’s office to see if they can administer the vaccine but I’m sure they don’t have newest updated vaccine in stock yet either. And maybe this administration isn’t going to let it be released.

Canada needs to offer mass vaccination to US citizens at their border cities - obviously we’ll have to pay whatever they ask but this is a humanitarian issue.

RFK Jr. wants the ‘mitochondrially challenged’ to just die, I think.

Hopefully they can administer it but if not they can write you an rx.

CVS isn’t honoring prescriptions for COVID vaccine in Massachusetts - or New Mexico or Nevada. Not sure why we get totally screwed but that’s what they’ve decided.

One can only assume that other corporate shills at Walgreens Walmart etc. will follow suit as they attempt to curry favor with the fascist dictator in the WH.

Thanks MAGA voters.

If they aren’t going to be able to be reimbursed, and their pharmacists aren’t legally allowed to administer according to state laws, then they aren’t really currying favor - they have no choice. The Covid vax is $150-200 per dose, quite expensive, and vials are multi-dose so all doses must be used within a certain time period or money lost.

As has been reported extensively in the news in the last few weeks, the health insurance industry has no plans to cancel coverage of any vaccines regardless of whatever is going on at CDC. Health insurers recognize the indisputable science and that vaccination reduces serious illness and hospitalization, thus reducing healthcare costs overall by a very significant number. I already verified with my insurer that they will cover it; the hang up is that I live in a commonwealth with laws prohibiting vaccines not approved by FDA and RFK Jr. and his MAHA goons are holding up/trying to cancel that approval.

I have a qualifying condition, although in a free country I believe I should be able to consult with my physician and have any vaccine for which I'm otherwise eligible and willing to take for prevention of serious illness. I also work with a very vulnerable elder with profound dementia, and so both because my caregiving is essential work and because of wanting to reduce risk of transmission to him, I want to be vaccinated. Because through my work I have seen the ravages of shingles (which can be unrelenting and chronic, devastating quality of life) and pneumonia, I got vaccinated as soon as I was eligible. Having once been pre-med and having taken college courses in immunology, virology, etc. I have a hard time understanding vaccine skepticism in light of hundreds of years of efficacy and hundreds of millions of lives saved with countless others prevented from living lives of long term disability from the extreme manifestations of preventable illnesses. I can't grasp why some people in this country seem to want to see children dying of measles and ending up on ventilators in wheelchairs or bedbound with polio.

This is a sickness in our body politic and we are heading into a mini-pandemic of vulnerable people when covid hits hard this winter.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I live in Massachusetts and this news has me sick to my stomach tonight.

I had called around earlier in the week and nobody has the new vaccine in stock yet supposed to be released mid September but who knows - maybe they won’t let us have it at all. If the corporate shills at Walgreens and Walmart follow in CVS’s footsteps . . .

I’ve left a message with my doctor’s office to see if they can administer the vaccine but I’m sure they don’t have newest updated vaccine in stock yet either. And maybe this administration isn’t going to let it be released.

Canada needs to offer mass vaccination to US citizens at their border cities - obviously we’ll have to pay whatever they ask but this is a humanitarian issue.

RFK Jr. wants the ‘mitochondrially challenged’ to just die, I think.

Hopefully they can administer it but if not they can write you an rx.

CVS isn’t honoring prescriptions for COVID vaccine in Massachusetts - or New Mexico or Nevada. Not sure why we get totally screwed but that’s what they’ve decided.

One can only assume that other corporate shills at Walgreens Walmart etc. will follow suit as they attempt to curry favor with the fascist dictator in the WH.

Thanks MAGA voters.

If they aren’t going to be able to be reimbursed, and their pharmacists aren’t legally allowed to administer according to state laws, then they aren’t really currying favor - they have no choice. The Covid vax is $150-200 per dose, quite expensive, and vials are multi-dose so all doses must be used within a certain time period or money lost.

As has been reported extensively in the news in the last few weeks, the health insurance industry has no plans to cancel coverage of any vaccines regardless of whatever is going on at CDC. Health insurers recognize the indisputable science and that vaccination reduces serious illness and hospitalization, thus reducing healthcare costs overall by a very significant number. I already verified with my insurer that they will cover it; the hang up is that I live in a commonwealth with laws prohibiting vaccines not approved by FDA and RFK Jr. and his MAHA goons are holding up/trying to cancel that approval.

I have a qualifying condition, although in a free country I believe I should be able to consult with my physician and have any vaccine for which I'm otherwise eligible and willing to take for prevention of serious illness. I also work with a very vulnerable elder with profound dementia, and so both because my caregiving is essential work and because of wanting to reduce risk of transmission to him, I want to be vaccinated. Because through my work I have seen the ravages of shingles (which can be unrelenting and chronic, devastating quality of life) and pneumonia, I got vaccinated as soon as I was eligible. Having once been pre-med and having taken college courses in immunology, virology, etc. I have a hard time understanding vaccine skepticism in light of hundreds of years of efficacy and hundreds of millions of lives saved with countless others prevented from living lives of long term disability from the extreme manifestations of preventable illnesses. I can't grasp why some people in this country seem to want to see children dying of measles and ending up on ventilators in wheelchairs or bedbound with polio.

This is a sickness in our body politic and we are heading into a mini-pandemic of vulnerable people when covid hits hard this winter.

The vaccine is approved. The problem is that regulations in some states also require vaccines to also be explicitly recommended by the CDC for pharmacists to administer them.

Everything about this is dumb, including those regulations. Allow parmacists to administer approved vaccines, at least when given a prescription.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is funny. Everyone on this thread wants the US healthcare system to be more like Europe and Canada, until it comes to the Covid vaccine. Someone upthread said Canada should be immunizing US citizens at the border. Do you know that Canada, like the EU, only vaccinates adults over 65 and those with certain conditions? Their restrictions are even tighter than these new US conditions. Literally, over half the US can get the vaccination because obesity is one of the conditions that makes one eligible; as is anxiety and depression. Pretty much everyone on this site is covered. So to call this a "humanitarian" crisis is beyond hysteria. And comes from a place of complete disinformation.

I’m sorry to point it out, but you are incorrect.
1.In Canada, anyone can be immunized with Covid vax once a year, and those high risk can be immunized twice a year.
2. Due to individual state laws in the USA, vaccines cannot be released if they are not approved by fda and ACIP. RFK has fired ACIP and tried to force cdc director to sign off on fake documents. This now means they are banned in a few states and require prescription AND proof of high-risk condition in order to get one.

This has been widely reported and clarified by reputable news sources in the past 24 hours.

Sorry to point this out: they "can be," but it's not recommended.

Www.canada.ca it’s under the title “recommendations”
And “Should receive”
Anyway, I’m not going to argue with you about it. It’s a shame you aren’t reading reputable news sources and websites, but it’s your choice. Just don’t spread misinformation to others. That’s how we got here in the first place.

Um, that's exactly the source I was using. Just because I'm not a "sky is falling" loon, who follows data instead of the hysterical mob, doesn't mean I get my facts from Fox News. You people are absolutely infuriating. Read the data on Covid vaccines. For healthy people, the risks (known and what even the FDA directors are now admitting--unknown) outweight th risks of Covid. You think we couldn't have a vaccine for the rhinovirus now if the industry thought it was profitable or the administration thought it would save lives? The reason we don't? Risks are greater than the virus for healthy people. The same is true of the Covid vaccine. It's not being banned for people who fall under an enormously large list of conditions--including obesity and anxiety. The conditions cover far far more people than who are even getting the vaccine. Only in DC and a few other very red, very anxious cities, are people daring to call this a humanitarian crisis. You should stop getting your news from single mainstream sources yourself. And instead go right to th data. Here are a few good pieces of data for you to start with:
https://www.who.int/emergencies/diseases/novel-coronavirus-2019/covid-19-vaccines/advice
https://www.rivm.nl/en/coronavirus-covid-19/vaccination
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/covid-19-vaccination-spring-booster-resources/a-guide-to-the-covid-19-spring-booster-2023
https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMsb2506929

[Anonymous]

It may not be banned but I cannot book an mNEXSPIKE appointment in VA. Could get the updated Spikevax but that's reported to be not as good. Over 65, prescriptions in the mail.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wasn’t there recent research from Europe saying either covid or the vaccine (they aren’t sure) ages your blood vessels by 5 years on average—noting the link to vasculitis (among other issues)?

Perhaps that’s why most doctors aren’t recommending it for kids and healthy adults any longer?

FTR I got the original vax and was boosted, but I haven’t opted for continual covid vaccines. I’m also a lifelong liberal who would never vote for a R. But my pediatrician stopped recommending the covid vaccine a while ago based on “the science,” so I feel like research has evolved.

Instead of a knee-jerk reaction, perhaps there is a middle ground?

This is such a sensible response. As a middle aged late woman home right now with my first ever bout of Covid, even I support a common sense, open-minded understanding of this topic. For healthy people, the risks of the vaccines simply do not outweigh the risks of Covid. I don't feel great right now, but it's just a bad cold. I had the first round of shots and no boosters. Too many in the medical community are coming out with new recommendations about the safety and efficacy. I wish people would just be more open-minded instead of jumping right to insults of people who happen to have a different perspective.

You are full of it and don’t know what you are talking about. I’m in the same demographic as you and had Covid 8 months ago. Still struggling with altered taste buds and congestion. My doctor has told me it can take 1-2 years to resolve fully.

Also my WBC’s have mysteriously dropped and they are not sure if this is Covid related or not.

So, please present this mysterious data of which you speak!

DP. Not exactly a shining endorsement of the vaccine.

Why not? Without the vax, they might be dead. You should learn to see more than black and white.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wasn’t there recent research from Europe saying either covid or the vaccine (they aren’t sure) ages your blood vessels by 5 years on average—noting the link to vasculitis (among other issues)?

Perhaps that’s why most doctors aren’t recommending it for kids and healthy adults any longer?

FTR I got the original vax and was boosted, but I haven’t opted for continual covid vaccines. I’m also a lifelong liberal who would never vote for a R. But my pediatrician stopped recommending the covid vaccine a while ago based on “the science,” so I feel like research has evolved.

Instead of a knee-jerk reaction, perhaps there is a middle ground?

This is such a sensible response. As a middle aged late woman home right now with my first ever bout of Covid, even I support a common sense, open-minded understanding of this topic. For healthy people, the risks of the vaccines simply do not outweigh the risks of Covid. I don't feel great right now, but it's just a bad cold. I had the first round of shots and no boosters. Too many in the medical community are coming out with new recommendations about the safety and efficacy. I wish people would just be more open-minded instead of jumping right to insults of people who happen to have a different perspective.

You are full of it and don’t know what you are talking about. I’m in the same demographic as you and had Covid 8 months ago. Still struggling with altered taste buds and congestion. My doctor has told me it can take 1-2 years to resolve fully.

Also my WBC’s have mysteriously dropped and they are not sure if this is Covid related or not.

So, please present this mysterious data of which you speak!

Not to mention that no one knows what the implications of COVID may be in the years to come.

Sadly, some people (MAGA) are so stupid that they can't think ten or twenty years ahead and what their current choices will do to them in the future.

So, PP, why don't you inhale some asbestos? RFK probably thinks we should all eat it for breakfast.

If you aren't going to listen to science on vaccines, then why listen to science on asbestos?

For that matter, why listen to accident data and wear a seat belt? Why are you doing anything recommended by experts?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wasn’t there recent research from Europe saying either covid or the vaccine (they aren’t sure) ages your blood vessels by 5 years on average—noting the link to vasculitis (among other issues)?

Perhaps that’s why most doctors aren’t recommending it for kids and healthy adults any longer?

FTR I got the original vax and was boosted, but I haven’t opted for continual covid vaccines. I’m also a lifelong liberal who would never vote for a R. But my pediatrician stopped recommending the covid vaccine a while ago based on “the science,” so I feel like research has evolved.

Instead of a knee-jerk reaction, perhaps there is a middle ground?

This is such a sensible response. As a middle aged late woman home right now with my first ever bout of Covid, even I support a common sense, open-minded understanding of this topic. For healthy people, the risks of the vaccines simply do not outweigh the risks of Covid. I don't feel great right now, but it's just a bad cold. I had the first round of shots and no boosters. Too many in the medical community are coming out with new recommendations about the safety and efficacy. I wish people would just be more open-minded instead of jumping right to insults of people who happen to have a different perspective.

You are full of it and don’t know what you are talking about. I’m in the same demographic as you and had Covid 8 months ago. Still struggling with altered taste buds and congestion. My doctor has told me it can take 1-2 years to resolve fully.

Also my WBC’s have mysteriously dropped and they are not sure if this is Covid related or not.

So, please present this mysterious data of which you speak!

DP. Not exactly a shining endorsement of the vaccine.

Why not? Without the vax, they might be dead. You should learn to see more than black and white.

Without the vaccine, maybe they'd be healthy and millionaires. Since we're apparently into wildly speculating without regard for facts.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is funny. Everyone on this thread wants the US healthcare system to be more like Europe and Canada, until it comes to the Covid vaccine. Someone upthread said Canada should be immunizing US citizens at the border. Do you know that Canada, like the EU, only vaccinates adults over 65 and those with certain conditions? Their restrictions are even tighter than these new US conditions. Literally, over half the US can get the vaccination because obesity is one of the conditions that makes one eligible; as is anxiety and depression. Pretty much everyone on this site is covered. So to call this a "humanitarian" crisis is beyond hysteria. And comes from a place of complete disinformation.

I’m sorry to point it out, but you are incorrect.
1.In Canada, anyone can be immunized with Covid vax once a year, and those high risk can be immunized twice a year.
2. Due to individual state laws in the USA, vaccines cannot be released if they are not approved by fda and ACIP. RFK has fired ACIP and tried to force cdc director to sign off on fake documents. This now means they are banned in a few states and require prescription AND proof of high-risk condition in order to get one.

This has been widely reported and clarified by reputable news sources in the past 24 hours.

That's not quite right. And what about the EU, hmm?

Same in the EU. Anyone of any age can get the covid vax free of charge, at least once a year. Some member states of the EU offer more than one a year to high risk groups, free of charge.
This information is easy to look up, you know. EMA. Not Fox News or gateway pundit.

Nope.

https://ukhsa.blog.gov.uk/2025/06/26/whos-eligible-for-the-2025-covid-19-vaccine-or-autumn-booster/

For autumn 2025, COVID-19 vaccination will be offered to:

adults aged 75 years and over
residents in care homes for older adults
individuals who are immunosuppressed aged 6 months and over

This represents a change from the autumn 2024 programme, which also included adults aged 65 to 74 and all those aged 6 months and over in a clinical risk group.

The eligibility is the same across the 4 nations of the UK (England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland).