Trump and RFK Jr. to Ban COVID-19 Vaccine ‘Within Months’

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For healthy people, the risks of the vaccines simply do not outweigh the risks of Covid.

Source?

Their source is social media. No reputable doctor believes that at all. The vascular damage from repeated COVID infections can be profoundly debilitating. There are essentially no downsides to the COVID vaccine.

This idiocracy is going to kill a lot of us and reduce the lifespans of untold millions.

No downsides, except for myocarditis.

Okay then you do not get the vaccine but do not outlaw it for everyone else. Also your insurance should reflect your choice with additional fees and you have to pay out of pocket for any treatment resulting from vaccine refusal.

Imaginary problem solved!

+1. And if there is another severe epidemic of Covid, the unvaxxed should not occupy precious hospital beds in the ICU. Let people face the consequences of their choices if resources need to be restricted.

If only. It was a huge mistake to treat the elderly the first time around.

In particular, huge mistake to treat one elderly with the initials DJT.

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For healthy people, the risks of the vaccines simply do not outweigh the risks of Covid.

Source?

Their source is social media. No reputable doctor believes that at all. The vascular damage from repeated COVID infections can be profoundly debilitating. There are essentially no downsides to the COVID vaccine.

This idiocracy is going to kill a lot of us and reduce the lifespans of untold millions.

No downsides, except for myocarditis.

Okay then you do not get the vaccine but do not outlaw it for everyone else. Also your insurance should reflect your choice with additional fees and you have to pay out of pocket for any treatment resulting from vaccine refusal.

Imaginary problem solved!

+1. And if there is another severe epidemic of Covid, the unvaxxed should not occupy precious hospital beds in the ICU. Let people face the consequences of their choices if resources need to be restricted.

So you won’t be overwhelming the system with myocarditis?

Has the system ever been overwhelmed with myocarditis patients? No. Because it’s a very rare side effect.

Dp…myocarditis is more frequently caused by Covid than the vaccines.

That depended on the demographic. For young males, the vaccine resulted in an increased risk.

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For healthy people, the risks of the vaccines simply do not outweigh the risks of Covid.

Source?

Their source is social media. No reputable doctor believes that at all. The vascular damage from repeated COVID infections can be profoundly debilitating. There are essentially no downsides to the COVID vaccine.

This idiocracy is going to kill a lot of us and reduce the lifespans of untold millions.

No downsides, except for myocarditis.

Okay then you do not get the vaccine but do not outlaw it for everyone else. Also your insurance should reflect your choice with additional fees and you have to pay out of pocket for any treatment resulting from vaccine refusal.

Imaginary problem solved!

+1. And if there is another severe epidemic of Covid, the unvaxxed should not occupy precious hospital beds in the ICU. Let people face the consequences of their choices if resources need to be restricted.

So you won’t be overwhelming the system with myocarditis?

Has the system ever been overwhelmed with myocarditis patients? No. Because it’s a very rare side effect.

Dp…myocarditis is more frequently caused by Covid than the vaccines.

That depended on the demographic. For young males, the vaccine resulted in an increased risk.

No propaganda shut up

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Anonymous wrote:Do people think that vaccination rates are going to go down? They were pretty low already. If you aren’t in a high-risk group and have been getting the booster regularly, my guess is that you will continue to do so. The people who haven’t been won’t change. So, same.

No. The Republicans will not allow you to get any vaccine. They are going to do away with liability protections and make it impossible for insurance companies to cover the vaccines.

I guess we’ll all be in the same boat then.

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For healthy people, the risks of the vaccines simply do not outweigh the risks of Covid.

Source?

Their source is social media. No reputable doctor believes that at all. The vascular damage from repeated COVID infections can be profoundly debilitating. There are essentially no downsides to the COVID vaccine.

This idiocracy is going to kill a lot of us and reduce the lifespans of untold millions.

No downsides, except for myocarditis.

Okay then you do not get the vaccine but do not outlaw it for everyone else. Also your insurance should reflect your choice with additional fees and you have to pay out of pocket for any treatment resulting from vaccine refusal.

Imaginary problem solved!

+1. And if there is another severe epidemic of Covid, the unvaxxed should not occupy precious hospital beds in the ICU. Let people face the consequences of their choices if resources need to be restricted.

So you won’t be overwhelming the system with myocarditis?

Has the system ever been overwhelmed with myocarditis patients? No. Because it’s a very rare side effect.

Dp…myocarditis is more frequently caused by Covid than the vaccines.

That depended on the demographic. For young males, the vaccine resulted in an increased risk.

No propaganda shut up

Patone, M., Mei, X.W., Handunnetthi, L. et al. Risks of myocarditis, pericarditis, and cardiac arrhythmias associated with COVID-19 vaccination or SARS-CoV-2 infection. Nat Med 28, 410–422 (2022). https://doi.org/10.1038/s41591-021-01630-0

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For healthy people, the risks of the vaccines simply do not outweigh the risks of Covid.

Source?

Their source is social media. No reputable doctor believes that at all. The vascular damage from repeated COVID infections can be profoundly debilitating. There are essentially no downsides to the COVID vaccine.

This idiocracy is going to kill a lot of us and reduce the lifespans of untold millions.

No downsides, except for myocarditis.

Okay then you do not get the vaccine but do not outlaw it for everyone else. Also your insurance should reflect your choice with additional fees and you have to pay out of pocket for any treatment resulting from vaccine refusal.

Imaginary problem solved!

+1. And if there is another severe epidemic of Covid, the unvaxxed should not occupy precious hospital beds in the ICU. Let people face the consequences of their choices if resources need to be restricted.

So you won’t be overwhelming the system with myocarditis?

Has the system ever been overwhelmed with myocarditis patients? No. Because it’s a very rare side effect.

Dp…myocarditis is more frequently caused by Covid than the vaccines.

That depended on the demographic. For young males, the vaccine resulted in an increased risk.

No propaganda shut up

Patone, M., Mei, X.W., Handunnetthi, L. et al. Risks of myocarditis, pericarditis, and cardiac arrhythmias associated with COVID-19 vaccination or SARS-CoV-2 infection. Nat Med 28, 410–422 (2022). https://doi.org/10.1038/s41591-021-01630-0

2 to 10 more cases per million from the 2020-21 shots.

Chances of same demographic person getting hit by a car, victim of gunshot or stabbing? One wonders.

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For healthy people, the risks of the vaccines simply do not outweigh the risks of Covid.

Source?

Their source is social media. No reputable doctor believes that at all. The vascular damage from repeated COVID infections can be profoundly debilitating. There are essentially no downsides to the COVID vaccine.

This idiocracy is going to kill a lot of us and reduce the lifespans of untold millions.

No downsides, except for myocarditis.

Okay then you do not get the vaccine but do not outlaw it for everyone else. Also your insurance should reflect your choice with additional fees and you have to pay out of pocket for any treatment resulting from vaccine refusal.

Imaginary problem solved!

+1. And if there is another severe epidemic of Covid, the unvaxxed should not occupy precious hospital beds in the ICU. Let people face the consequences of their choices if resources need to be restricted.

So you won’t be overwhelming the system with myocarditis?

Has the system ever been overwhelmed with myocarditis patients? No. Because it’s a very rare side effect.

Dp…myocarditis is more frequently caused by Covid than the vaccines.

That depended on the demographic. For young males, the vaccine resulted in an increased risk.

No propaganda shut up

Patone, M., Mei, X.W., Handunnetthi, L. et al. Risks of myocarditis, pericarditis, and cardiac arrhythmias associated with COVID-19 vaccination or SARS-CoV-2 infection. Nat Med 28, 410–422 (2022). https://doi.org/10.1038/s41591-021-01630-0

2 to 10 more cases per million from the 2020-21 shots.

Chances of same demographic person getting hit by a car, victim of gunshot or stabbing? One wonders.

For young males, that's a higher risk from the vaccine (specifically moderna, which had 100-150 more cases per million) than from covid.

That not propaganda. Similar results were found in other studies.

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Anonymous wrote:

For healthy people, the risks of the vaccines simply do not outweigh the risks of Covid.

Source?

Their source is social media. No reputable doctor believes that at all. The vascular damage from repeated COVID infections can be profoundly debilitating. There are essentially no downsides to the COVID vaccine.

This idiocracy is going to kill a lot of us and reduce the lifespans of untold millions.

No downsides, except for myocarditis.

Okay then you do not get the vaccine but do not outlaw it for everyone else. Also your insurance should reflect your choice with additional fees and you have to pay out of pocket for any treatment resulting from vaccine refusal.

Imaginary problem solved!

+1. And if there is another severe epidemic of Covid, the unvaxxed should not occupy precious hospital beds in the ICU. Let people face the consequences of their choices if resources need to be restricted.

So you won’t be overwhelming the system with myocarditis?

Has the system ever been overwhelmed with myocarditis patients? No. Because it’s a very rare side effect.

Dp…myocarditis is more frequently caused by Covid than the vaccines.

That depended on the demographic. For young males, the vaccine resulted in an increased risk.

No propaganda shut up

Patone, M., Mei, X.W., Handunnetthi, L. et al. Risks of myocarditis, pericarditis, and cardiac arrhythmias associated with COVID-19 vaccination or SARS-CoV-2 infection. Nat Med 28, 410–422 (2022). https://doi.org/10.1038/s41591-021-01630-0

2 to 10 more cases per million from the 2020-21 shots.

Chances of same demographic person getting hit by a car, victim of gunshot or stabbing? One wonders.

For young males, that's a higher risk from the vaccine (specifically moderna, which had 100-150 more cases per million) than from covid.

That not propaganda. Similar results were found in other studies.

But not so much that they were overwhelming hospitals, which is what one PP was trying to imply.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

For healthy people, the risks of the vaccines simply do not outweigh the risks of Covid.

Source?

Their source is social media. No reputable doctor believes that at all. The vascular damage from repeated COVID infections can be profoundly debilitating. There are essentially no downsides to the COVID vaccine.

This idiocracy is going to kill a lot of us and reduce the lifespans of untold millions.

No downsides, except for myocarditis.

Okay then you do not get the vaccine but do not outlaw it for everyone else. Also your insurance should reflect your choice with additional fees and you have to pay out of pocket for any treatment resulting from vaccine refusal.

Imaginary problem solved!

+1. And if there is another severe epidemic of Covid, the unvaxxed should not occupy precious hospital beds in the ICU. Let people face the consequences of their choices if resources need to be restricted.

So you won’t be overwhelming the system with myocarditis?

Has the system ever been overwhelmed with myocarditis patients? No. Because it’s a very rare side effect.

Dp…myocarditis is more frequently caused by Covid than the vaccines.

That depended on the demographic. For young males, the vaccine resulted in an increased risk.

No propaganda shut up

Patone, M., Mei, X.W., Handunnetthi, L. et al. Risks of myocarditis, pericarditis, and cardiac arrhythmias associated with COVID-19 vaccination or SARS-CoV-2 infection. Nat Med 28, 410–422 (2022). https://doi.org/10.1038/s41591-021-01630-0

2 to 10 more cases per million from the 2020-21 shots.

Chances of same demographic person getting hit by a car, victim of gunshot or stabbing? One wonders.

For young males, that's a higher risk from the vaccine (specifically moderna, which had 100-150 more cases per million) than from covid.

That not propaganda. Similar results were found in other studies.

But not so much that they were overwhelming hospitals, which is what one PP was trying to imply.

The claim was:
"Dp…myocarditis is more frequently caused by Covid than the vaccines."

That isn't true for all demographic groups.

It is incredible that people who claim to be so concerned about covid are so ignorant of the studies.

[Anonymous]

My Maryland pharmacist friend says says that her CVS is crowded with people trying to get COVID shots from DC and Virginia where the rules aren’t sorted out yet. What a mess.

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Trump will turn around and fire RFK when the numbers of victims start to look bad.

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Anonymous wrote:

For healthy people, the risks of the vaccines simply do not outweigh the risks of Covid.

Source?

Their source is social media. No reputable doctor believes that at all. The vascular damage from repeated COVID infections can be profoundly debilitating. There are essentially no downsides to the COVID vaccine.

This idiocracy is going to kill a lot of us and reduce the lifespans of untold millions.

No downsides, except for myocarditis.

Okay then you do not get the vaccine but do not outlaw it for everyone else. Also your insurance should reflect your choice with additional fees and you have to pay out of pocket for any treatment resulting from vaccine refusal.

Imaginary problem solved!

+1. And if there is another severe epidemic of Covid, the unvaxxed should not occupy precious hospital beds in the ICU. Let people face the consequences of their choices if resources need to be restricted.

So you won’t be overwhelming the system with myocarditis?

Has the system ever been overwhelmed with myocarditis patients? No. Because it’s a very rare side effect.

Dp…myocarditis is more frequently caused by Covid than the vaccines.

That depended on the demographic. For young males, the vaccine resulted in an increased risk.

No propaganda shut up

Patone, M., Mei, X.W., Handunnetthi, L. et al. Risks of myocarditis, pericarditis, and cardiac arrhythmias associated with COVID-19 vaccination or SARS-CoV-2 infection. Nat Med 28, 410–422 (2022). https://doi.org/10.1038/s41591-021-01630-0

2 to 10 more cases per million from the 2020-21 shots.

Chances of same demographic person getting hit by a car, victim of gunshot or stabbing? One wonders.

For young males, that's a higher risk from the vaccine (specifically moderna, which had 100-150 more cases per million) than from covid.

That not propaganda. Similar results were found in other studies.

But not so much that they were overwhelming hospitals, which is what one PP was trying to imply.

The claim was:
"Dp…myocarditis is more frequently caused by Covid than the vaccines."

That isn't true for all demographic groups.

It is incredible that people who claim to be so concerned about covid are so ignorant of the studies.

Guys. Come on. Follow the science.
And make sure your sources are reliable and valid. We know that Covid infection causes more cases than the vaccine in young people. Just accept this, it’s JAMA:
https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/covid-19/myocarditis-complications-more-common-after-covid-infection-vaccination-18-month-data

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

For healthy people, the risks of the vaccines simply do not outweigh the risks of Covid.

Source?

Their source is social media. No reputable doctor believes that at all. The vascular damage from repeated COVID infections can be profoundly debilitating. There are essentially no downsides to the COVID vaccine.

This idiocracy is going to kill a lot of us and reduce the lifespans of untold millions.

No downsides, except for myocarditis.

Okay then you do not get the vaccine but do not outlaw it for everyone else. Also your insurance should reflect your choice with additional fees and you have to pay out of pocket for any treatment resulting from vaccine refusal.

Imaginary problem solved!

+1. And if there is another severe epidemic of Covid, the unvaxxed should not occupy precious hospital beds in the ICU. Let people face the consequences of their choices if resources need to be restricted.

So you won’t be overwhelming the system with myocarditis?

Has the system ever been overwhelmed with myocarditis patients? No. Because it’s a very rare side effect.

Dp…myocarditis is more frequently caused by Covid than the vaccines.

That depended on the demographic. For young males, the vaccine resulted in an increased risk.

No propaganda shut up

Patone, M., Mei, X.W., Handunnetthi, L. et al. Risks of myocarditis, pericarditis, and cardiac arrhythmias associated with COVID-19 vaccination or SARS-CoV-2 infection. Nat Med 28, 410–422 (2022). https://doi.org/10.1038/s41591-021-01630-0

2 to 10 more cases per million from the 2020-21 shots.

Chances of same demographic person getting hit by a car, victim of gunshot or stabbing? One wonders.

For young males, that's a higher risk from the vaccine (specifically moderna, which had 100-150 more cases per million) than from covid.

That not propaganda. Similar results were found in other studies.

But not so much that they were overwhelming hospitals, which is what one PP was trying to imply.

The claim was:
"Dp…myocarditis is more frequently caused by Covid than the vaccines."

That isn't true for all demographic groups.

It is incredible that people who claim to be so concerned about covid are so ignorant of the studies.

Guys. Come on. Follow the science.
And make sure your sources are reliable and valid. We know that Covid infection causes more cases than the vaccine in young people. Just accept this, it’s JAMA:
https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/covid-19/myocarditis-complications-more-common-after-covid-infection-vaccination-18-month-data[/quote
You're still claiming Nature is propaganda? With a separate study in JAMA confirming those results.