Kids becoming Firefighters and Cops
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Anonymous
If a young adult is working in the environment you describe it’s much better to be making 1.5x of your hourly rate for the extra time. That certainly dulls the pain. The last few years of young applicants dictating work schedules is over. RTO is real and will only expand. |
Anonymous
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VT publishes fairly comprehensive data about recent graduates. The link below is for the class of 2024. I think we can all agree that 2024 was a better environment for graduates than 2025, and 2026 will be worse than both previous years.
Pamplin College of Business rate of full time employment: 53.8% Mean starting salary: $73,295 Median starting salary: $70,000 https://career.vt.edu/outcomes/#!eWVhcj0yMDI0O2RpdmlzaW9uPVBhbXBsaW4gQ29sbGVnZSBvZiBCdXNpbmVzcw== I would have guessed a higher full time employment rate and starting salaries. I wonder how many hours these young adults work to make $70,000? They should really dig into the math concerning time away from home. Hiring has already slowed, and will continue to do so. Layoffs will increase and expand across the private sector. Public companies care about shareholders more than employees. Suddenly hiring bonuses, overtime, pensions, tax credits and student loan forgiveness in the law enforcement space looks really attractive. |
Anonymous
The salaries are just base, not with bonuses. This is the list of top employers. The ceiling at these places is much higher than most of law enforcement. Deloitte RSM US LLP Bank of America KPMG LLP Otis Elevator IBM Capital One Wells Fargo Freddie Mac Accenture Federal Services PwC Baker Tilly EY LLP CoStar Group JPMorgan Chase & Co. Davenport & Company LLC Amazon Morgan Stanley CACI PepsiCo |
Anonymous
Are there bonuses available to the 46.2% that aren’t employed full time? |
Anonymous
I retired from law enforcement and have a law degree. Many of my colleagues had advanced degrees of various types. You speak from ignorance. |
Anonymous
Thanks for doing what you did. Most of us appreciate and understand the realities of law enforcement. |
Anonymous
Can you give your address so first responders can ignore your calls in the future? |
Anonymous
| What is more prestigious, a firefighter or a cop? Asking for a friend... |
Anonymous
Because they believe in helping society?! I can’t even believe this is a real post, PP. Do you hope that when you call the fire dept, someone answers? If everyone thought like you, no one would answer your call. |
Anonymous
| I went to a elite LAC, where most of us ended up in finance or law or academia or other typical jobs. But one classmate went into policing and is now chief of police in a medium sized city. I think he's doing well for himself and doing good for the city. |
Anonymous
Were you a federal law enforcement agent? The educational standards are higher in many (but not all) federal LEO jobs. On the flip side, Fairfax County PD only requires a GED or HS diploma to be considered for their Police Officer 1 program. |
Anonymous
Firefighter, but it is harder to break into and there's a lot of nepotism/racism/clannishness among folks for whom being FD is a family tradition. |
Anonymous
DP—Could you just stop w the comparison for a bit please! This isn’t about you or winning or losing Joe/Josie! So self absorbed and lacking insight. |
Anonymous
+1 And the uneducated cops are the ones with superiority complexes and committing most of the police brutality. |
Anonymous
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My friend with a college degree became a NYC fireman. They have a lot of time off and literally get paid to sleep, eat and go to bathroom when doing long shifts.
The union has a program to pay for college and graduate degrees not many people take advantage of. He started at 23 after college, "retired" at 43 with a pension and medical then started his Law career. A lot of Fireman own bars, do construction, drive limos while doing the job. My cousin for instance had a CPA and did right years public accounting before being called up to be a fireman around 30 and retired at 50. He did taxes and stuff while a Fireman. I took the NYC Fireman test. You need 100 to get in minimun. I got 100 on written test. In physical gets in final tunnel I had to crawl through right before end in full gear with a tank on my back my oxygen tank slighly brushed against top slowing me down for a moment and I finished a second slower which they score in 5 point increments just barely make it a 95 on physical. So I got a 97.5 overall. That year due to a push to add diversity they gave an extra few points to women and also they gave a bit of preference if a vet. In end I was not called at all. Dont know if would have done it. My year you needed an above 100 score to be called if no preference and not a vet. I think it was like 102 or higher. Most firefighter families they really really practice and sign up for courses and do the mock tests. I only made one mistake as understimated how low I had to get down for tunnel to make sure tank did not brush against top. BTW the ladder was scary. You take a 120 pound dummy, with full heavy equipment, tanks, boots, heavy jacket whole works and go up three story ladder over wall and then down three story ladder. I actually was so hyped up I cleared that super quick. I was actually in finish line for my 100 score in final run when tank hit top of tunnel that slowed me down and only got 95. |