Is Vanderbilt anyones First/Top Choice?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Anyone using Parchment to understand school comparisons doesn’t understand data and/or Parchment’s process. Of course, Parchment wants you to believe that their data reflects reality, but there is little reason to believe them.

Parchment’s data is 100% self-reported with absolutely no verification of reality. That means that it’s potentially rife with problems.

First, there is selection bias - who would/would not visit such a site to provide there data. It is not a complete or representative dataset.

Second, there is false data - people report comparisons and outcomes that are fake to put their thumb in the scale.

Third, there is no safeguard against one person or a group of people creating multiple accounts and “astroturfing” the results - essentially a coordinated effort to hype or degrade a school (much like DCUM trolls!).

What to trust? School data. Common App data. Given Vanderbilt’s admission stats and class profile, it’s very hard to believe the Parchment results.

Parchment is not self reported, its using transcript data through counselors. Vanderbilt gets a ton of applicants from students who have no chance at going. Especially southern students, so yea its believable.

How can you say southern students have “no chance” at going? You’re making some horribly prejudiced assumptions here about southern kids. To take a rough paraphrase of that line from Sweet Home Alabama just because they talk slow doesn’t meant they’re stupid.

[Anonymous]

I meant Vandy vs Columbia
22:78 Columbia is winning.

[Anonymous]

How is this still dragging on? They have ED.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I just ran parchment and it says Vandy loses to WashU by 56% to 44%…though they aren’t color coded so I gather they don’t have enough info.

He's right pp, remove WashU from that section. Vandy only beats Emory, Georgetown, CMU in the Top 25. Vandy also loses to NYU and USC BADLY. I dont know why this school gets so much more respected than say or when Emory actually performs better against most of these schools according to parchment.

And yet Vandy’s yield rate is much higher than NYU and USC. Of course you will bring up Vandy using ED1 and ED2 but so does NYU. Parchment isn’t everything and isn’t always accurate and up to date. College’s prestige and favorability is always changing based on advancements in the university, media coverage, and overall hype for the university. So let’s simmer down instead of putting amazing schools that you would never be able to get into down cause many kids attend them and love them.

Vandy vs NYu
33:67

Emory vs NYu
44:56

Vandy vs USC
28:72

Emory vs USC
36:64

Vandyartmouth
24:76

Emory vs Dartmouth
50:50

Vandy has a higher yeild because it yeild protects.

Mhm I’m sure it does

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Anyone using Parchment to understand school comparisons doesn’t understand data and/or Parchment’s process. Of course, Parchment wants you to believe that their data reflects reality, but there is little reason to believe them.

Parchment’s data is 100% self-reported with absolutely no verification of reality. That means that it’s potentially rife with problems.

First, there is selection bias - who would/would not visit such a site to provide there data. It is not a complete or representative dataset.

Second, there is false data - people report comparisons and outcomes that are fake to put their thumb in the scale.

Third, there is no safeguard against one person or a group of people creating multiple accounts and “astroturfing” the results - essentially a coordinated effort to hype or degrade a school (much like DCUM trolls!).

What to trust? School data. Common App data. Given Vanderbilt’s admission stats and class profile, it’s very hard to believe the Parchment results.

Parchment is not self reported, its using transcript data through counselors. Vanderbilt gets a ton of applicants from students who have no chance at going. Especially southern students, so yea its believable.

Oh honey, someone’s not the sharpest tool in the shed. Parchment results are not reliable. But, not only do you lack on an intellectual level to know that but you're also classist and racist. The South has the largest and most successful black population in the US with very talented students. Maybe spend time working on yourself before spewing your disgusting rhetoric. And there are many students who aren’t qualified who apply to Harvard, I assume your kids will be one of them

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Anyone using Parchment to understand school comparisons doesn’t understand data and/or Parchment’s process. Of course, Parchment wants you to believe that their data reflects reality, but there is little reason to believe them.

Parchment’s data is 100% self-reported with absolutely no verification of reality. That means that it’s potentially rife with problems.

First, there is selection bias - who would/would not visit such a site to provide there data. It is not a complete or representative dataset.

Second, there is false data - people report comparisons and outcomes that are fake to put their thumb in the scale.

Third, there is no safeguard against one person or a group of people creating multiple accounts and “astroturfing” the results - essentially a coordinated effort to hype or degrade a school (much like DCUM trolls!).

What to trust? School data. Common App data. Given Vanderbilt’s admission stats and class profile, it’s very hard to believe the Parchment results.

Parchment is not self reported, its using transcript data through counselors. Vanderbilt gets a ton of applicants from students who have no chance at going. Especially southern students, so yea its believable.

Oh honey, someone’s not the sharpest tool in the shed. Parchment results are not reliable. But, not only do you lack on an intellectual level to know that but you're also classist and racist. The South has the largest and most successful black population in the US with very talented students. Maybe spend time working on yourself before spewing your disgusting rhetoric. And there are many students who aren’t qualified who apply to Harvard, I assume your kids will be one of them

There's a reason Vandy is 50% TO.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Anyone using Parchment to understand school comparisons doesn’t understand data and/or Parchment’s process. Of course, Parchment wants you to believe that their data reflects reality, but there is little reason to believe them.

Parchment’s data is 100% self-reported with absolutely no verification of reality. That means that it’s potentially rife with problems.

First, there is selection bias - who would/would not visit such a site to provide there data. It is not a complete or representative dataset.

Second, there is false data - people report comparisons and outcomes that are fake to put their thumb in the scale.

Third, there is no safeguard against one person or a group of people creating multiple accounts and “astroturfing” the results - essentially a coordinated effort to hype or degrade a school (much like DCUM trolls!).

What to trust? School data. Common App data. Given Vanderbilt’s admission stats and class profile, it’s very hard to believe the Parchment results.

Parchment is not self reported, its using transcript data through counselors. Vanderbilt gets a ton of applicants from students who have no chance at going. Especially southern students, so yea its believable.

Oh honey, someone’s not the sharpest tool in the shed. Parchment results are not reliable. But, not only do you lack on an intellectual level to know that but you're also classist and racist. The South has the largest and most successful black population in the US with very talented students. Maybe spend time working on yourself before spewing your disgusting rhetoric. And there are many students who aren’t qualified who apply to Harvard, I assume your kids will be one of them

There's a reason Vandy is 50% TO.

Yes. It's a Division I, Power 5 SEC school. This really isn't complicated. They have to recruit enough athletes who can compete in the SEC -- meaning, from all over the country, in all the sports.

[The school has an entering class of 1600 and nearly 500 of them are athletes]

I wish Vandy's TO intake was closer to that of other T20 power sport schools like Duke and NU, which are about 20% each. That seems balanced. That said, the school spirit atmosphere that Big Sports brings to a university is a key selling point for a lot of applicants, so who knows. A lot of smart kids target Vandy precisely because it offers excellent academics and school spirit in a fun, big city.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Anyone using Parchment to understand school comparisons doesn’t understand data and/or Parchment’s process. Of course, Parchment wants you to believe that their data reflects reality, but there is little reason to believe them.

Parchment’s data is 100% self-reported with absolutely no verification of reality. That means that it’s potentially rife with problems.

First, there is selection bias - who would/would not visit such a site to provide there data. It is not a complete or representative dataset.

Second, there is false data - people report comparisons and outcomes that are fake to put their thumb in the scale.

Third, there is no safeguard against one person or a group of people creating multiple accounts and “astroturfing” the results - essentially a coordinated effort to hype or degrade a school (much like DCUM trolls!).

What to trust? School data. Common App data. Given Vanderbilt’s admission stats and class profile, it’s very hard to believe the Parchment results.

Parchment is not self reported, its using transcript data through counselors. Vanderbilt gets a ton of applicants from students who have no chance at going. Especially southern students, so yea its believable.

Yes, Parchment has transcript info, but that’s not college selection data. Parchment is very coy about the data they’re using. There is lots of stuff on methodology, but not data. And, yes, some of the data is student provided.

[Anonymous]

https://www.parchment.com/c/college/college-rankings.php?thisYear=2021&thisCategory=National

Here is Parchment's 2022 overall list of college rankings. For whatever reason, they don't have a more updated list. As of that time, Vanderbilt ranked 23rd overall and ahead of several Ivies.

I don't know what's going with Parchment data, but they are not forthcoming about their data source and these overall ratings ceased in 2022.

Frankly, the numbers people are posting on here regarding Vanderbilt are not possible given its published statistics.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I just ran parchment and it says Vandy loses to WashU by 56% to 44%…though they aren’t color coded so I gather they don’t have enough info.

He's right pp, remove WashU from that section. Vandy only beats Emory, Georgetown, CMU in the Top 25. Vandy also loses to NYU and USC BADLY. I dont know why this school gets so much more respected than say or when Emory actually performs better against most of these schools according to parchment.

And yet Vandy’s yield rate is much higher than NYU and USC. Of course you will bring up Vandy using ED1 and ED2 but so does NYU. Parchment isn’t everything and isn’t always accurate and up to date. College’s prestige and favorability is always changing based on advancements in the university, media coverage, and overall hype for the university. So let’s simmer down instead of putting amazing schools that you would never be able to get into down cause many kids attend them and love them.

Vandy vs NYu
33:67

Emory vs NYu
44:56

Vandy vs USC
28:72

Emory vs USC
36:64

Vandyartmouth
24:76

Emory vs Dartmouth
50:50

Vandy has a higher yeild because it yeild protects.

According to parchment, a majority of students take BYU over Duke. Most take Wake Forest over Princeton. And it's about even between those choosing between Harvard and the University of Vermont.

It's a useless website.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I just ran parchment and it says Vandy loses to WashU by 56% to 44%…though they aren’t color coded so I gather they don’t have enough info.

He's right pp, remove WashU from that section. Vandy only beats Emory, Georgetown, CMU in the Top 25. Vandy also loses to NYU and USC BADLY. I dont know why this school gets so much more respected than say or when Emory actually performs better against most of these schools according to parchment.

And yet Vandy’s yield rate is much higher than NYU and USC. Of course you will bring up Vandy using ED1 and ED2 but so does NYU. Parchment isn’t everything and isn’t always accurate and up to date. College’s prestige and favorability is always changing based on advancements in the university, media coverage, and overall hype for the university. So let’s simmer down instead of putting amazing schools that you would never be able to get into down cause many kids attend them and love them.

Vandy vs NYu
33:67

Emory vs NYu
44:56

Vandy vs USC
28:72

Emory vs USC
36:64

Vandyartmouth
24:76

Emory vs Dartmouth
50:50

Vandy has a higher yeild because it yeild protects.

According to parchment, a majority of students take BYU over Duke. Most take Wake Forest over Princeton. And it's about even between those choosing between Harvard and the University of Vermont.

It's a useless website.

I just ran it. It literally gave no results for Princeton vs Wake.

More importantly if the results aren’t color coded then they actually don’t have enough data so they aren’t final results (which both the Duke and Harvard comparisons above are).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Anyone using Parchment to understand school comparisons doesn’t understand data and/or Parchment’s process. Of course, Parchment wants you to believe that their data reflects reality, but there is little reason to believe them.

Parchment’s data is 100% self-reported with absolutely no verification of reality. That means that it’s potentially rife with problems.

First, there is selection bias - who would/would not visit such a site to provide there data. It is not a complete or representative dataset.

Second, there is false data - people report comparisons and outcomes that are fake to put their thumb in the scale.

Third, there is no safeguard against one person or a group of people creating multiple accounts and “astroturfing” the results - essentially a coordinated effort to hype or degrade a school (much like DCUM trolls!).

What to trust? School data. Common App data. Given Vanderbilt’s admission stats and class profile, it’s very hard to believe the Parchment results.

Parchment is not self reported, its using transcript data through counselors. Vanderbilt gets a ton of applicants from students who have no chance at going. Especially southern students, so yea its believable.

Oh honey, someone’s not the sharpest tool in the shed. Parchment results are not reliable. But, not only do you lack on an intellectual level to know that but you're also classist and racist. The South has the largest and most successful black population in the US with very talented students. Maybe spend time working on yourself before spewing your disgusting rhetoric. And there are many students who aren’t qualified who apply to Harvard, I assume your kids will be one of them

There's a reason Vandy is 50% TO.

Yes. It's a Division I, Power 5 SEC school. This really isn't complicated. They have to recruit enough athletes who can compete in the SEC -- meaning, from all over the country, in all the sports.

[The school has an entering class of 1600 and nearly 500 of them are athletes]

I wish Vandy's TO intake was closer to that of other T20 power sport schools like Duke and NU, which are about 20% each. That seems balanced. That said, the school spirit atmosphere that Big Sports brings to a university is a key selling point for a lot of applicants, so who knows. A lot of smart kids target Vandy precisely because it offers excellent academics and school spirit in a fun, big city.

Vanderbilt admits: 61% submitted test scores
Enrolled class (last year): 52% submitted scores
The enrolled class of a school is always lower stats than the admitted class of the school.

Also, there are about 450 TOTAL athletes at Vanderbilt, not just in the freshman class. So about 110/1600 athletes in the freshman class.