Is Vanderbilt anyones First/Top Choice?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Unless the results on Parchment are color coded the results are not statistically significant and cannot be trusted, likely because not enough people voted to have accurate results. Read the fine print!

Among T25 USNews schools:
Vandy “loses”:
HPYSM
Penn
Brown
Dartmouth
UChicago
Columbia
Notre Dame
UCLA
Cal
CalTech
JHU

Vanderbilt “wins”
Emory
CMU
Wash U
Georgetown

Vanderbilt “ties”- results are not statistically significant (most likely not enough votes on parchment to yield a reliable result at 95%):
Michigan
UVA
Duke
Northwestern
Rice
Cornell

This generally makes sense based on the current ranking of #18 and historical ranking of about 16-21 they’ve had. When there is a greater difference in ranking/prestige, Vanderbilt is not likely to be picked but the closer the rankings get or the higher Vandy is ranked in comparison, it’s more likely Vanderbilt wins. I didn’t go beyond T25 much but if you do Vanderbilt starts to win more in comparison. And for some of the ties or “wins” I’d bet the cultural differences (location, public schools where in-state students are more likely to stay at their flagship due to cost, religious affiliation in the case of Notre Dame), that would be a deciding factor. Many of these students apply to the same group of schools so there is much overlap.

Vanderbilt is clearly an elite school with an extremely low acceptance rate. Students who go there are happy and the alumni network is strong. It has been ranked in the top 20 for a long long time.

Not sure why so much hate, there are lots of schools that remain test optional in the top 20 and these schools will likely continue as long as it’s beneficial to them. Remember schools do what’s in their best interest- not the applicant’s, no matter what the party line is that they put out.

You really think the result between Vandy and Duke/UVa wouldn't have enough data?! Thats obviously not the case for 3 southern schools.

[Anonymous]

According to parchment, the difference is not statistically significant. Which means that they are not confident that one school would consistently be picked over the other 95% of the time.

I do agree that Duke beats Vanderbilt head to head all else being equal- there is likely a ton of overlap in applicants due to the school’s similarities. I think Duke also has a more east coast vs southern vibe that Vanderbilt has.

I attended the Vanderbilt admitted students day and overheard multiple student groups who were discussing getting into both schools. I’d bet that between the 2, a student would select Duke unless they received good merit at Vanderbilt, and they are also not right next to each other rankings-wise, Duke is quite a bit higher. Students applying to these schools care about prestige.

My kid did not apply to Duke at all, so didn’t have that choice. They did select Vanderbilt over Michigan and UVA.

Their data, not mine. So even if not due to the # of responses, they still indicate the difference is not statistically significant.

[Anonymous]

There’s tons of overlap between Duke and Vanderbilt applicants.

But I don’t find parchment useful. Both Duke and Vanderbilt take many students in the ED round. Clearly first choice schools for a lot of students. And when these students don’t get into their ED/SCEA schools, they tend to shotgun. Vanderbilt’s RD acceptance rate is like 3 percent. Duke is not much better.

In the RD round, it’s mayhem. Financial aid is also a huge factor at schools costing $400,000. That determines a lot of choices.

Also, both Vanderbilt and Duke are on the upswing. Whereas a lot of Ivy schools are showing declining applications. It’s hard for data to keep up.

[Anonymous]

I just ran parchment and it says Vandy loses to WashU by 56% to 44%…though they aren’t color coded so I gather they don’t have enough info.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I just ran parchment and it says Vandy loses to WashU by 56% to 44%…though they aren’t color coded so I gather they don’t have enough info.

He's right pp, remove WashU from that section. Vandy only beats Emory, Georgetown, CMU in the Top 25. Vandy also loses to NYU and USC BADLY. I dont know why this school gets so much more respected than say or when Emory actually performs better against most of these schools according to parchment.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Come on. No one is picking Vandy over an Ivy
unless they get a better financial deal.

Is this a joke?

No, it’s the sincere feeling of a 1st or 2nd gen striver without generational affluence. Their hunger prevents any answer except Ivy Stanford MIT

Those with more cushion and chill - but the same resume — can afford to think more expansively. See also, “CS”

Pathetic that you are so insecure that you think poor and/or hardworking immigrants are people you should look down upon. And, no, I am not an immigrant, or the child of immigrants, or poor.

[Anonymous]

Hell yeah Vanderbilt is great, lots of hot chicks. I know a guy who went there for CS, never got any chicks though.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I just ran parchment and it says Vandy loses to WashU by 56% to 44%…though they aren’t color coded so I gather they don’t have enough info.

He's right pp, remove WashU from that section. Vandy only beats Emory, Georgetown, CMU in the Top 25. Vandy also loses to NYU and USC BADLY. I dont know why this school gets so much more respected than say or when Emory actually performs better against most of these schools according to parchment.

And yet Vandy’s yield rate is much higher than NYU and USC. Of course you will bring up Vandy using ED1 and ED2 but so does NYU. Parchment isn’t everything and isn’t always accurate and up to date. College’s prestige and favorability is always changing based on advancements in the university, media coverage, and overall hype for the university. So let’s simmer down instead of putting amazing schools that you would never be able to get into down cause many kids attend them and love them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I just ran parchment and it says Vandy loses to WashU by 56% to 44%…though they aren’t color coded so I gather they don’t have enough info.

He's right pp, remove WashU from that section. Vandy only beats Emory, Georgetown, CMU in the Top 25. Vandy also loses to NYU and USC BADLY. I dont know why this school gets so much more respected than say or when Emory actually performs better against most of these schools according to parchment.

I mean as someone else said, Vandy has hot chicks and NYU has ??? Jew haters

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I just ran parchment and it says Vandy loses to WashU by 56% to 44%…though they aren’t color coded so I gather they don’t have enough info.

He's right pp, remove WashU from that section. Vandy only beats Emory, Georgetown, CMU in the Top 25. Vandy also loses to NYU and USC BADLY. I dont know why this school gets so much more respected than say or when Emory actually performs better against most of these schools according to parchment.

And yet Vandy’s yield rate is much higher than NYU and USC. Of course you will bring up Vandy using ED1 and ED2 but so does NYU. Parchment isn’t everything and isn’t always accurate and up to date. College’s prestige and favorability is always changing based on advancements in the university, media coverage, and overall hype for the university. So let’s simmer down instead of putting amazing schools that you would never be able to get into down cause many kids attend them and love them.

Prestige takes decades to change and for some reason DCUM wants us to trust their opinions over parchment data. How comical.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I just ran parchment and it says Vandy loses to WashU by 56% to 44%…though they aren’t color coded so I gather they don’t have enough info.

He's right pp, remove WashU from that section. Vandy only beats Emory, Georgetown, CMU in the Top 25. Vandy also loses to NYU and USC BADLY. I dont know why this school gets so much more respected than say or when Emory actually performs better against most of these schools according to parchment.

And yet Vandy’s yield rate is much higher than NYU and USC. Of course you will bring up Vandy using ED1 and ED2 but so does NYU. Parchment isn’t everything and isn’t always accurate and up to date. College’s prestige and favorability is always changing based on advancements in the university, media coverage, and overall hype for the university. So let’s simmer down instead of putting amazing schools that you would never be able to get into down cause many kids attend them and love them.

Vandy vs NYu
33:67

Emory vs NYu
44:56

Vandy vs USC
28:72

Emory vs USC
36:64

Vandyartmouth
24:76

Emory vs Dartmouth
50:50

Vandy has a higher yeild because it yeild protects.

[Anonymous]

While you argue about what schools are better, Vanderbilt accepts less than 5% of applicants….the school certainly isn’t hurting for students who want to attend.

[Anonymous]

Anyone using Parchment to understand school comparisons doesn’t understand data and/or Parchment’s process. Of course, Parchment wants you to believe that their data reflects reality, but there is little reason to believe them.

Parchment’s data is 100% self-reported with absolutely no verification of reality. That means that it’s potentially rife with problems.

First, there is selection bias - who would/would not visit such a site to provide there data. It is not a complete or representative dataset.

Second, there is false data - people report comparisons and outcomes that are fake to put their thumb in the scale.

Third, there is no safeguard against one person or a group of people creating multiple accounts and “astroturfing” the results - essentially a coordinated effort to hype or degrade a school (much like DCUM trolls!).

What to trust? School data. Common App data. Given Vanderbilt’s admission stats and class profile, it’s very hard to believe the Parchment results.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Anyone using Parchment to understand school comparisons doesn’t understand data and/or Parchment’s process. Of course, Parchment wants you to believe that their data reflects reality, but there is little reason to believe them.

Parchment’s data is 100% self-reported with absolutely no verification of reality. That means that it’s potentially rife with problems.

First, there is selection bias - who would/would not visit such a site to provide there data. It is not a complete or representative dataset.

Second, there is false data - people report comparisons and outcomes that are fake to put their thumb in the scale.

Third, there is no safeguard against one person or a group of people creating multiple accounts and “astroturfing” the results - essentially a coordinated effort to hype or degrade a school (much like DCUM trolls!).

What to trust? School data. Common App data. Given Vanderbilt’s admission stats and class profile, it’s very hard to believe the Parchment results.

Parchment is not self reported, its using transcript data through counselors. Vanderbilt gets a ton of applicants from students who have no chance at going. Especially southern students, so yea its believable.

[Anonymous]

Just to rub it in
Vanderbilt vs Princeton
20:80

Emory vs Princeton
30:70

Vandy vs Columbia
78: 22

Emory vs Columbia
50:50

Vandy vs Notre dame
27:73

Emory vs Notre Dame
37:63

Vanderbilt vs UVa
44:56

Emory vs UVa
54:46

Vanderbilt vs UNC
69:31

Emory vs UNC
75:25