Should influencers be allowed to sue to block public records requests?

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Anonymous wrote:These comments are so mean.

Emilie was/is considered one of the more normal and down to earth mom 'influencers' too. A wholesome sweetheart. Just tragic.

Tragic for her. Her deadbeat husband was betting on basketball rather than parenting. He’s criminally negligent and lucky he isn’t being charged.

PP here. I can definitely see this. But she is getting hammered just for being an 'influencer'.

She should be hammered for exploiting her child and not having a fence around the pool.

She is monetizing her "happy family" and her "parenting." She put it all out there, repeatedly for money. She doesn't then get to be shocked and offended there is extra scrutiny here. Especially when it turns out her "perfect happy family" was really just for show. They didn't properly protect their children from a known hazard and her DH seems like a sperm-donor father who isn't engaged in parenting.

So they should be punished extra harshly because you don’t like their lifestyle or career?

Not pp. What a childish response. They are expecting to be treated differently from other people who go through this. That is hypocritical and disgusting. Do you think the father in this case should be charged with neglect?

Taking your eyes off your kid for a few minutes is not neglect. Every parent has done it.

Not with a totally unsecured, fully accessible pool in the backyard. You sound like a terrible parent if you think this is normal parenting.

Normal parenting is not watching your kids eyes wide open 24/7. Do you even have kids?

False equivalence. Did you even minimally babyproof your house? Do you have gates on stairs and chemicals out of reach? Normal parents take normal recommended precautions. This is nothing to do with watching your kid "every second" and everything to do with creating a reasonably safe environment. No reasonable person would consider this a safe environment. I wouldn't even bring my young children to VISIT a house with an unsecured pool.

You’re ripe for a fall off that pedestal.

Again. This is false. Minimal safety precautions as parents don't put one on a "pedestal." This is parenting 101, not a high horse. Did you babyproof your home with young children - yes or no?

There is no such thing as a 100% safe babyproofed house. Get out of here with that nonsense.

You really are stupid. No one is saying this. Putting up a pool fence or safety cover is not an obsessive step. It's a basic one.

Then why are you asking about babyproofing? Quit moving the goal posts and stay on topic.

Not at all. Securing your pool is as basic as putting a gate at the top of your stairs.

They had a pool cover, it wasn’t in place at the time. It’s weird that of all the pool drowinings people are so obsessed with this one. Why?

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Anonymous wrote:I'm assuming the judges are deciding these cases on an individual level according to the facts. So, I'll trust them to make the decisions.

I would like the judge to say to her, “oh, so you think there is too much public interest in the death of your child? Maybe you should have thought about that before selling your family for profit.”

Here is a novel idea. MIND YOUR OWN BUSINESS!!!!

But then how would they get rich influencing? Their entire business model depends on people not minding their business.

That is also none of your business. I think it's kind of gross that people want these records.

If the info is out there concerning everyone else, there is something absolutely gross, dishonest, abusive about her trying to hide what is public information. 911 calls are public. She has no right to block those and I don't give one crap about what you think of people who listen to them.

It also *is* other people's business when a child dies for preventable reasons. If there's a police report, there is almost always a public interest in releasing it. In this case:

- releasing the police report helps disseminate information about pool safety and might alert other parents with backyard pools to how quickly a child can die because you have failed to secure your pool or supervise the child closely enough. Releasing the report can save lives.

- alerts others in the community to the fact that this family has an unsecured pool and a history of failing to supervise kids. Not only will this let others know that their kids are not safe at these people's house, but it might make them more thoughtful about taking their kids to other homes and know better what to look for or ask about.

While I would ordinarily be inclined to agree, the strange obsession with this accident is creepy. I find it deeply disturbing, and perhaps strong privacy protections is the only way to address that.

Without a doubt you are being paid by the family. There is no strange obsession. There is outrage that parents caused their child to die due to their own blind self interest.

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Anonymous wrote:These comments are so mean.

Emilie was/is considered one of the more normal and down to earth mom 'influencers' too. A wholesome sweetheart. Just tragic.

Tragic for her. Her deadbeat husband was betting on basketball rather than parenting. He’s criminally negligent and lucky he isn’t being charged.

PP here. I can definitely see this. But she is getting hammered just for being an 'influencer'.

She should be hammered for exploiting her child and not having a fence around the pool.

She is monetizing her "happy family" and her "parenting." She put it all out there, repeatedly for money. She doesn't then get to be shocked and offended there is extra scrutiny here. Especially when it turns out her "perfect happy family" was really just for show. They didn't properly protect their children from a known hazard and her DH seems like a sperm-donor father who isn't engaged in parenting.

So they should be punished extra harshly because you don’t like their lifestyle or career?

Not pp. What a childish response. They are expecting to be treated differently from other people who go through this. That is hypocritical and disgusting. Do you think the father in this case should be charged with neglect?

Taking your eyes off your kid for a few minutes is not neglect. Every parent has done it.

Not with a totally unsecured, fully accessible pool in the backyard. You sound like a terrible parent if you think this is normal parenting.

I'm sure you've never made any mistakes or taken any unnecessary risks...

How much does the family pay you? You clearly know nothing about the danger of bodies of water and small children. Wait. You do know but you're getting paid to minimize their criminal behavior.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm assuming the judges are deciding these cases on an individual level according to the facts. So, I'll trust them to make the decisions.

I would like the judge to say to her, “oh, so you think there is too much public interest in the death of your child? Maybe you should have thought about that before selling your family for profit.”

The mother wasn’t even home. What self interest?

Here is a novel idea. MIND YOUR OWN BUSINESS!!!!

But then how would they get rich influencing? Their entire business model depends on people not minding their business.

That is also none of your business. I think it's kind of gross that people want these records.

If the info is out there concerning everyone else, there is something absolutely gross, dishonest, abusive about her trying to hide what is public information. 911 calls are public. She has no right to block those and I don't give one crap about what you think of people who listen to them.

It also *is* other people's business when a child dies for preventable reasons. If there's a police report, there is almost always a public interest in releasing it. In this case:

- releasing the police report helps disseminate information about pool safety and might alert other parents with backyard pools to how quickly a child can die because you have failed to secure your pool or supervise the child closely enough. Releasing the report can save lives.

- alerts others in the community to the fact that this family has an unsecured pool and a history of failing to supervise kids. Not only will this let others know that their kids are not safe at these people's house, but it might make them more thoughtful about taking their kids to other homes and know better what to look for or ask about.

While I would ordinarily be inclined to agree, the strange obsession with this accident is creepy. I find it deeply disturbing, and perhaps strong privacy protections is the only way to address that.

Without a doubt you are being paid by the family. There is no strange obsession. There is outrage that parents caused their child to die due to their own blind self interest.

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Anonymous wrote:These comments are so mean.

Emilie was/is considered one of the more normal and down to earth mom 'influencers' too. A wholesome sweetheart. Just tragic.

Tragic for her. Her deadbeat husband was betting on basketball rather than parenting. He’s criminally negligent and lucky he isn’t being charged.

PP here. I can definitely see this. But she is getting hammered just for being an 'influencer'.

She should be hammered for exploiting her child and not having a fence around the pool.

She is monetizing her "happy family" and her "parenting." She put it all out there, repeatedly for money. She doesn't then get to be shocked and offended there is extra scrutiny here. Especially when it turns out her "perfect happy family" was really just for show. They didn't properly protect their children from a known hazard and her DH seems like a sperm-donor father who isn't engaged in parenting.

So they should be punished extra harshly because you don’t like their lifestyle or career?

Not pp. What a childish response. They are expecting to be treated differently from other people who go through this. That is hypocritical and disgusting. Do you think the father in this case should be charged with neglect?

Taking your eyes off your kid for a few minutes is not neglect. Every parent has done it.

Not with a totally unsecured, fully accessible pool in the backyard. You sound like a terrible parent if you think this is normal parenting.

Normal parenting is not watching your kids eyes wide open 24/7. Do you even have kids?

The other posters here clearly understand the issue. You're the one who doesn't have a clue.

People with pools pay a lot of money to make sure their children are safe from the danger they bring. These people chose to ignore standard safety protocols wrt the pool. They are also the cool parents who let their kids hang outside by themselves by the pool. You don't understand this issue because you are being intentionally obtuse. How much do you get paid?

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Anonymous wrote:These comments are so mean.

Emilie was/is considered one of the more normal and down to earth mom 'influencers' too. A wholesome sweetheart. Just tragic.

Tragic for her. Her deadbeat husband was betting on basketball rather than parenting. He’s criminally negligent and lucky he isn’t being charged.

PP here. I can definitely see this. But she is getting hammered just for being an 'influencer'.

She should be hammered for exploiting her child and not having a fence around the pool.

She is monetizing her "happy family" and her "parenting." She put it all out there, repeatedly for money. She doesn't then get to be shocked and offended there is extra scrutiny here. Especially when it turns out her "perfect happy family" was really just for show. They didn't properly protect their children from a known hazard and her DH seems like a sperm-donor father who isn't engaged in parenting.

So they should be punished extra harshly because you don’t like their lifestyle or career?

Not pp. What a childish response. They are expecting to be treated differently from other people who go through this. That is hypocritical and disgusting. Do you think the father in this case should be charged with neglect?

Taking your eyes off your kid for a few minutes is not neglect. Every parent has done it.

Are you paid by this family? This isn't just taking their eyes off their child for a few minutes and you know it. Your posts are intentionally misleading. You are dishonest.

These are parents who didnt bother to put up a safety fence around their pool. They have 2 children under 3 years of age. These are parents who weren't concerned that their 3 year old could open the door to the pool. Most people who have pools have safety fences around them and additional locks on the door that leads to the outside near the pool. Not these idiots. Dad was busy betting on basketball for at least 9 minutes while he knew the 3 year old was outside by the pool by himself.

Fences aren't required in Arizona. Lobby to change the law if you think this should be a prosecutable offense.

But it seems like you're more interested in judging this particular family.

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Anonymous wrote:These comments are so mean.

Emilie was/is considered one of the more normal and down to earth mom 'influencers' too. A wholesome sweetheart. Just tragic.

Tragic for her. Her deadbeat husband was betting on basketball rather than parenting. He’s criminally negligent and lucky he isn’t being charged.

PP here. I can definitely see this. But she is getting hammered just for being an 'influencer'.

She should be hammered for exploiting her child and not having a fence around the pool.

She is monetizing her "happy family" and her "parenting." She put it all out there, repeatedly for money. She doesn't then get to be shocked and offended there is extra scrutiny here. Especially when it turns out her "perfect happy family" was really just for show. They didn't properly protect their children from a known hazard and her DH seems like a sperm-donor father who isn't engaged in parenting.

So they should be punished extra harshly because you don’t like their lifestyle or career?

Not pp. What a childish response. They are expecting to be treated differently from other people who go through this. That is hypocritical and disgusting. Do you think the father in this case should be charged with neglect?

Taking your eyes off your kid for a few minutes is not neglect. Every parent has done it.

Not with a totally unsecured, fully accessible pool in the backyard. You sound like a terrible parent if you think this is normal parenting.

Normal parenting is not watching your kids eyes wide open 24/7. Do you even have kids?

She probably wipes for them.

This tells us everything we need to know about you. Again, how much are you paid by the family?

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Anonymous wrote:These comments are so mean.

Emilie was/is considered one of the more normal and down to earth mom 'influencers' too. A wholesome sweetheart. Just tragic.

Tragic for her. Her deadbeat husband was betting on basketball rather than parenting. He’s criminally negligent and lucky he isn’t being charged.

PP here. I can definitely see this. But she is getting hammered just for being an 'influencer'.

She should be hammered for exploiting her child and not having a fence around the pool.

She is monetizing her "happy family" and her "parenting." She put it all out there, repeatedly for money. She doesn't then get to be shocked and offended there is extra scrutiny here. Especially when it turns out her "perfect happy family" was really just for show. They didn't properly protect their children from a known hazard and her DH seems like a sperm-donor father who isn't engaged in parenting.

So they should be punished extra harshly because you don’t like their lifestyle or career?

Not pp. What a childish response. They are expecting to be treated differently from other people who go through this. That is hypocritical and disgusting. Do you think the father in this case should be charged with neglect?

Taking your eyes off your kid for a few minutes is not neglect. Every parent has done it.

Not with a totally unsecured, fully accessible pool in the backyard. You sound like a terrible parent if you think this is normal parenting.

Normal parenting is not watching your kids eyes wide open 24/7. Do you even have kids?

False equivalence. Did you even minimally babyproof your house? Do you have gates on stairs and chemicals out of reach? Normal parents take normal recommended precautions. This is nothing to do with watching your kid "every second" and everything to do with creating a reasonably safe environment. No reasonable person would consider this a safe environment. I wouldn't even bring my young children to VISIT a house with an unsecured pool.

You’re ripe for a fall off that pedestal.

Again. This is false. Minimal safety precautions as parents don't put one on a "pedestal." This is parenting 101, not a high horse. Did you babyproof your home with young children - yes or no?

There is no such thing as a 100% safe babyproofed house. Get out of here with that nonsense.

You really are stupid. No one is saying this. Putting up a pool fence or safety cover is not an obsessive step. It's a basic one.

Then why are you asking about babyproofing? Quit moving the goal posts and stay on topic.

Not at all. Securing your pool is as basic as putting a gate at the top of your stairs.

They had a pool cover, it wasn’t in place at the time. It’s weird that of all the pool drowinings people are so obsessed with this one. Why?

No one is obsessed but you. I guarantee you know them or ARE them. Sorry your cash cow has dried up. Securing your pool means securing your pool. If you don't use the security features you purchased, then your pool isn't secure. I'm guessing the cover looked bad in photos online?

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Anonymous wrote:These comments are so mean.

Emilie was/is considered one of the more normal and down to earth mom 'influencers' too. A wholesome sweetheart. Just tragic.

Tragic for her. Her deadbeat husband was betting on basketball rather than parenting. He’s criminally negligent and lucky he isn’t being charged.

PP here. I can definitely see this. But she is getting hammered just for being an 'influencer'.

She should be hammered for exploiting her child and not having a fence around the pool.

She is monetizing her "happy family" and her "parenting." She put it all out there, repeatedly for money. She doesn't then get to be shocked and offended there is extra scrutiny here. Especially when it turns out her "perfect happy family" was really just for show. They didn't properly protect their children from a known hazard and her DH seems like a sperm-donor father who isn't engaged in parenting.

So they should be punished extra harshly because you don’t like their lifestyle or career?

Not pp. What a childish response. They are expecting to be treated differently from other people who go through this. That is hypocritical and disgusting. Do you think the father in this case should be charged with neglect?

Taking your eyes off your kid for a few minutes is not neglect. Every parent has done it.

Not with a totally unsecured, fully accessible pool in the backyard. You sound like a terrible parent if you think this is normal parenting.

Normal parenting is not watching your kids eyes wide open 24/7. Do you even have kids?

False equivalence. Did you even minimally babyproof your house? Do you have gates on stairs and chemicals out of reach? Normal parents take normal recommended precautions. This is nothing to do with watching your kid "every second" and everything to do with creating a reasonably safe environment. No reasonable person would consider this a safe environment. I wouldn't even bring my young children to VISIT a house with an unsecured pool.

You’re ripe for a fall off that pedestal.

Again. This is false. Minimal safety precautions as parents don't put one on a "pedestal." This is parenting 101, not a high horse. Did you babyproof your home with young children - yes or no?

There is no such thing as a 100% safe babyproofed house. Get out of here with that nonsense.

You really are stupid. No one is saying this. Putting up a pool fence or safety cover is not an obsessive step. It's a basic one.

Then why are you asking about babyproofing? Quit moving the goal posts and stay on topic.

Not at all. Securing your pool is as basic as putting a gate at the top of your stairs.

They had a pool cover, it wasn’t in place at the time. It’s weird that of all the pool drowinings people are so obsessed with this one. Why?

No one is obsessed but you. I guarantee you know them or ARE them. Sorry your cash cow has dried up. Securing your pool means securing your pool. If you don't use the security features you purchased, then your pool isn't secure. I'm guessing the cover looked bad in photos online?

We have a live one here!

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Anonymous wrote:These comments are so mean.

Emilie was/is considered one of the more normal and down to earth mom 'influencers' too. A wholesome sweetheart. Just tragic.

Tragic for her. Her deadbeat husband was betting on basketball rather than parenting. He’s criminally negligent and lucky he isn’t being charged.

PP here. I can definitely see this. But she is getting hammered just for being an 'influencer'.

She should be hammered for exploiting her child and not having a fence around the pool.

She is monetizing her "happy family" and her "parenting." She put it all out there, repeatedly for money. She doesn't then get to be shocked and offended there is extra scrutiny here. Especially when it turns out her "perfect happy family" was really just for show. They didn't properly protect their children from a known hazard and her DH seems like a sperm-donor father who isn't engaged in parenting.

He clearly wasn’t attentive for those 9 minutes but he was home with a toddler and newborn while she was out for lunch with friends. Doesn’t sound like a father not engaged in parenting. I bet if you tracked cell phone / screen use of mothers at home with their kids you would find just as many non attentive gaps in parenting. It isn’t uncommon for parents to scroll or watch something while parenting.

Your post is utter bull shite and you know it. Scrolling on your phone while your kids are playing near you is one thing. Ignoring a 3 year old who is outside alone by a pool while you are busy placing bets is criminal negligence.

Are you getting paid by this family? The way you so dishonestly twist things to make dad seem sympathetic is telling.

Not a single parent I know with a pool would allow a 3 year old to be outside by a pool by themselves. Not a single parent I know has a pool without a safety fence. Not a single parent I know would be ok with the 3 year old being able to slip outside by the pool by themselves.

What makes you think he knew he was by the pool? You realize three years old are mobile, right?

Exactly!

This has to be the most stupid post on this site today and you don't get it.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm assuming the judges are deciding these cases on an individual level according to the facts. So, I'll trust them to make the decisions.

I would like the judge to say to her, “oh, so you think there is too much public interest in the death of your child? Maybe you should have thought about that before selling your family for profit.”

Here is a novel idea. MIND YOUR OWN BUSINESS!!!!

But then how would they get rich influencing? Their entire business model depends on people not minding their business.

That is also none of your business. I think it's kind of gross that people want these records.

If the info is out there concerning everyone else, there is something absolutely gross, dishonest, abusive about her trying to hide what is public information. 911 calls are public. She has no right to block those and I don't give one crap about what you think of people who listen to them.

It also *is* other people's business when a child dies for preventable reasons. If there's a police report, there is almost always a public interest in releasing it. In this case:

- releasing the police report helps disseminate information about pool safety and might alert other parents with backyard pools to how quickly a child can die because you have failed to secure your pool or supervise the child closely enough. Releasing the report can save lives.

- alerts others in the community to the fact that this family has an unsecured pool and a history of failing to supervise kids. Not only will this let others know that their kids are not safe at these people's house, but it might make them more thoughtful about taking their kids to other homes and know better what to look for or ask about.

While I would ordinarily be inclined to agree, the strange obsession with this accident is creepy. I find it deeply disturbing, and perhaps strong privacy protections is the only way to address that.

Without a doubt you are being paid by the family. There is no strange obsession. There is outrage that parents caused their child to die due to their own blind self interest.

About 400 kids die of each year in pool drownings, many in similar circumstances to this one. How many of those have you posted about?

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Anonymous wrote:These comments are so mean.

Emilie was/is considered one of the more normal and down to earth mom 'influencers' too. A wholesome sweetheart. Just tragic.

Tragic for her. Her deadbeat husband was betting on basketball rather than parenting. He’s criminally negligent and lucky he isn’t being charged.

PP here. I can definitely see this. But she is getting hammered just for being an 'influencer'.

She should be hammered for exploiting her child and not having a fence around the pool.

She is monetizing her "happy family" and her "parenting." She put it all out there, repeatedly for money. She doesn't then get to be shocked and offended there is extra scrutiny here. Especially when it turns out her "perfect happy family" was really just for show. They didn't properly protect their children from a known hazard and her DH seems like a sperm-donor father who isn't engaged in parenting.

So they should be punished extra harshly because you don’t like their lifestyle or career?

Not pp. What a childish response. They are expecting to be treated differently from other people who go through this. That is hypocritical and disgusting. Do you think the father in this case should be charged with neglect?

Taking your eyes off your kid for a few minutes is not neglect. Every parent has done it.

Are you paid by this family? This isn't just taking their eyes off their child for a few minutes and you know it. Your posts are intentionally misleading. You are dishonest.

These are parents who didnt bother to put up a safety fence around their pool. They have 2 children under 3 years of age. These are parents who weren't concerned that their 3 year old could open the door to the pool. Most people who have pools have safety fences around them and additional locks on the door that leads to the outside near the pool. Not these idiots. Dad was busy betting on basketball for at least 9 minutes while he knew the 3 year old was outside by the pool by himself.

Fences aren't required in Arizona. Lobby to change the law if you think this should be a prosecutable offense.

But it seems like you're more interested in judging this particular family.

Most parents even without pools take steps to prevent toddlers from accessing the outside of the home unnoticed. Most exterior doors have a deadbolt that a three year old can't reach. And most parents with industrious three year olds add extra layers if needed. Please stop trying to make this sound like a normal parenting accident. It isn't.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm assuming the judges are deciding these cases on an individual level according to the facts. So, I'll trust them to make the decisions.

I would like the judge to say to her, “oh, so you think there is too much public interest in the death of your child? Maybe you should have thought about that before selling your family for profit.”

Here is a novel idea. MIND YOUR OWN BUSINESS!!!!

But then how would they get rich influencing? Their entire business model depends on people not minding their business.

That is also none of your business. I think it's kind of gross that people want these records.

If the info is out there concerning everyone else, there is something absolutely gross, dishonest, abusive about her trying to hide what is public information. 911 calls are public. She has no right to block those and I don't give one crap about what you think of people who listen to them.

It also *is* other people's business when a child dies for preventable reasons. If there's a police report, there is almost always a public interest in releasing it. In this case:

- releasing the police report helps disseminate information about pool safety and might alert other parents with backyard pools to how quickly a child can die because you have failed to secure your pool or supervise the child closely enough. Releasing the report can save lives.

- alerts others in the community to the fact that this family has an unsecured pool and a history of failing to supervise kids. Not only will this let others know that their kids are not safe at these people's house, but it might make them more thoughtful about taking their kids to other homes and know better what to look for or ask about.

While I would ordinarily be inclined to agree, the strange obsession with this accident is creepy. I find it deeply disturbing, and perhaps strong privacy protections is the only way to address that.

Without a doubt you are being paid by the family. There is no strange obsession. There is outrage that parents caused their child to die due to their own blind self interest.

About 400 kids die of each year in pool drownings, many in similar circumstances to this one. How many of those have you posted about?

You seem new here. We discuss neglectful parenting incidents from the news regularly.

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Anonymous wrote:These comments are so mean.

Emilie was/is considered one of the more normal and down to earth mom 'influencers' too. A wholesome sweetheart. Just tragic.

Tragic for her. Her deadbeat husband was betting on basketball rather than parenting. He’s criminally negligent and lucky he isn’t being charged.

PP here. I can definitely see this. But she is getting hammered just for being an 'influencer'.

She should be hammered for exploiting her child and not having a fence around the pool.

She is monetizing her "happy family" and her "parenting." She put it all out there, repeatedly for money. She doesn't then get to be shocked and offended there is extra scrutiny here. Especially when it turns out her "perfect happy family" was really just for show. They didn't properly protect their children from a known hazard and her DH seems like a sperm-donor father who isn't engaged in parenting.

He clearly wasn’t attentive for those 9 minutes but he was home with a toddler and newborn while she was out for lunch with friends. Doesn’t sound like a father not engaged in parenting. I bet if you tracked cell phone / screen use of mothers at home with their kids you would find just as many non attentive gaps in parenting. It isn’t uncommon for parents to scroll or watch something while parenting.

Your post is utter bull shite and you know it. Scrolling on your phone while your kids are playing near you is one thing. Ignoring a 3 year old who is outside alone by a pool while you are busy placing bets is criminal negligence.

Are you getting paid by this family? The way you so dishonestly twist things to make dad seem sympathetic is telling.

Not a single parent I know with a pool would allow a 3 year old to be outside by a pool by themselves. Not a single parent I know has a pool without a safety fence. Not a single parent I know would be ok with the 3 year old being able to slip outside by the pool by themselves.

What makes you think he knew he was by the pool? You realize three years old are mobile, right?

Exactly!

This has to be the most stupid post on this site today and you don't get it.

Dad admitted he knew the kid was outside by the pool alone, and further indicated the child is REGULARLY allowed to be outside alone by the pool.

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Both parents chose not to secure the pool. A bad choice and their son paid with his life. I just disagree that makes the dad a sperm donor and not involved parent. Most parents are inattentive at times. Likely the kid has often played out there, people has commented on it on her previous posts.