DOGE at DoD

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Anonymous wrote:CNN is reporting they want to fire 50,000 civilian employees at DOD. Which is insane.

The Defense Department has temporarily paused a plan to carry out mass firings of civilian probationary employees until Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth and the Pentagon’s Office of General Counsel can carry out a more thorough review of the impacts such firings could have on US military readiness, two defense officials familiar with the matter told CNN.

The pause comes after CNN reported on Wednesday that the mass terminations, which could affect over 50,000 civilian employees across the Pentagon, could run afoul of Title 10 section 129a of the US code. Following that report, Pentagon lawyers began reviewing the legality of the planned terminations more closely, the officials said.

That law says that the secretary of defense “may not reduce the civilian workforce programmed full-time equivalent levels unless the Secretary conducts an appropriate analysis” of how those firings could impact the US military’s lethality and readiness. The law also says that mitigating risk to US military readiness takes precedence over cost.


https://www.cnn.com/2025/02/21/politics/pentagon-firings-review/index.html


So they only bothered to check if this might affect military readiness because a law specifically said they had to. Not because that is F&CKING COMMON SENSE!!!!


I mean, I’m surprised that there being a law had any impact.


Probably a minimal delay to conduct a cursory analysis which reaches a conclusion that there are no issues with these cuts. While they wont let the law stop them this seems like a minor inconvenience they are willing to accommodate in a perfunctory manner to reach their goals.


As someone whose lifesaving USAID-supported program was cut after a "review" of 30 seconds, good luck DoD friends.


Best hope DoD has is the # of representatives and Senators with significant defense facilities, contractors, and employees in their districts.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:CNN is reporting they want to fire 50,000 civilian employees at DOD. Which is insane.

The Defense Department has temporarily paused a plan to carry out mass firings of civilian probationary employees until Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth and the Pentagon’s Office of General Counsel can carry out a more thorough review of the impacts such firings could have on US military readiness, two defense officials familiar with the matter told CNN.

The pause comes after CNN reported on Wednesday that the mass terminations, which could affect over 50,000 civilian employees across the Pentagon, could run afoul of Title 10 section 129a of the US code. Following that report, Pentagon lawyers began reviewing the legality of the planned terminations more closely, the officials said.

That law says that the secretary of defense “may not reduce the civilian workforce programmed full-time equivalent levels unless the Secretary conducts an appropriate analysis” of how those firings could impact the US military’s lethality and readiness. The law also says that mitigating risk to US military readiness takes precedence over cost.


https://www.cnn.com/2025/02/21/politics/pentagon-firings-review/index.html


So they only bothered to check if this might affect military readiness because a law specifically said they had to. Not because that is F&CKING COMMON SENSE!!!!


“ The pause comes after CNN reported on Wednesday that the mass terminations, which could affect over 50,000 civilian employees across the Pentagon, could run afoul of Title 10 section 129a of the US code. Following that report, Pentagon lawyers began reviewing the legality of the planned terminations more closely, the officials said.

That law says that the secretary of defense “may not reduce the civilian workforce programmed full-time equivalent levels unless the Secretary conducts an appropriate analysis” of how those firings could impact the US military’s lethality and readiness. The law also says that mitigating risk to US military readiness takes precedence over cost.

A senior defense official told CNN on Wednesday that such an analysis had not been carried out before military leaders were ordered to make lists of employees to fire.”

Absolutely nuts. Hegseth needs to go. He’s a danger to our national security.





Hegseth is a DUI hire Fox talking head. I’m so sorry for our enlisted Americans who have this person in charge of their lives. He’s not worthy of this post.


"If everybody in this town connected with politics had to leave town because of chasing women and drinking, you would have no government."--Barry Goldwater
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:CNN is reporting they want to fire 50,000 civilian employees at DOD. Which is insane.

The Defense Department has temporarily paused a plan to carry out mass firings of civilian probationary employees until Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth and the Pentagon’s Office of General Counsel can carry out a more thorough review of the impacts such firings could have on US military readiness, two defense officials familiar with the matter told CNN.

The pause comes after CNN reported on Wednesday that the mass terminations, which could affect over 50,000 civilian employees across the Pentagon, could run afoul of Title 10 section 129a of the US code. Following that report, Pentagon lawyers began reviewing the legality of the planned terminations more closely, the officials said.

That law says that the secretary of defense “may not reduce the civilian workforce programmed full-time equivalent levels unless the Secretary conducts an appropriate analysis” of how those firings could impact the US military’s lethality and readiness. The law also says that mitigating risk to US military readiness takes precedence over cost.


https://www.cnn.com/2025/02/21/politics/pentagon-firings-review/index.html


So they only bothered to check if this might affect military readiness because a law specifically said they had to. Not because that is F&CKING COMMON SENSE!!!!


I mean, I’m surprised that there being a law had any impact.


Probably a minimal delay to conduct a cursory analysis which reaches a conclusion that there are no issues with these cuts. While they wont let the law stop them this seems like a minor inconvenience they are willing to accommodate in a perfunctory manner to reach their goals.

The report has to be submitted to congress. Would the decision then be placed in the committee hands for the House and Senate? They may actually care.
Anonymous
This is Glenn Youngkin's chance to advocate for his state/constituents. I'm not holding my breath.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:This is Glenn Youngkin's chance to advocate for his state/constituents. I'm not holding my breath.


Probably still tantrumming over the stadium failure.
Anonymous
It'll be easier to find a space in the South Parking lot.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:This is Glenn Youngkin's chance to advocate for his state/constituents. I'm not holding my breath.

You’re late to the party. Youngkin declared early on that he was cool with DOGE’s actions.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:CNN is reporting they want to fire 50,000 civilian employees at DOD. Which is insane.

The Defense Department has temporarily paused a plan to carry out mass firings of civilian probationary employees until Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth and the Pentagon’s Office of General Counsel can carry out a more thorough review of the impacts such firings could have on US military readiness, two defense officials familiar with the matter told CNN.

The pause comes after CNN reported on Wednesday that the mass terminations, which could affect over 50,000 civilian employees across the Pentagon, could run afoul of Title 10 section 129a of the US code. Following that report, Pentagon lawyers began reviewing the legality of the planned terminations more closely, the officials said.

That law says that the secretary of defense “may not reduce the civilian workforce programmed full-time equivalent levels unless the Secretary conducts an appropriate analysis” of how those firings could impact the US military’s lethality and readiness. The law also says that mitigating risk to US military readiness takes precedence over cost.


https://www.cnn.com/2025/02/21/politics/pentagon-firings-review/index.html


This is a classic "first they came for" situation. Everyone keeps wanting to believe DOGE is not going to go after DoD, or will only go after bloat and waste, or won't cut services that benefit red states.

Spoiler: They are and they will, so either get activated now or wait for them to come for you, but etiher way it's coming.


The administration will choke and back down. They are already backpedaling. Once they do it will show this is all posturing and has thing to do with “efficiency” or cost savings.

(Non-DOD fed employee)
Anonymous
The probationary employees in my DOD agency are absolutely terrified. Nobody knows when but they know it will happen. This is awful.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:The probationary employees in my DOD agency are absolutely terrified. Nobody knows when but they know it will happen. This is awful.


So awful
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:CNN is reporting they want to fire 50,000 civilian employees at DOD. Which is insane.

The Defense Department has temporarily paused a plan to carry out mass firings of civilian probationary employees until Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth and the Pentagon’s Office of General Counsel can carry out a more thorough review of the impacts such firings could have on US military readiness, two defense officials familiar with the matter told CNN.

The pause comes after CNN reported on Wednesday that the mass terminations, which could affect over 50,000 civilian employees across the Pentagon, could run afoul of Title 10 section 129a of the US code. Following that report, Pentagon lawyers began reviewing the legality of the planned terminations more closely, the officials said.

That law says that the secretary of defense “may not reduce the civilian workforce programmed full-time equivalent levels unless the Secretary conducts an appropriate analysis” of how those firings could impact the US military’s lethality and readiness. The law also says that mitigating risk to US military readiness takes precedence over cost.


https://www.cnn.com/2025/02/21/politics/pentagon-firings-review/index.html


This is a classic "first they came for" situation. Everyone keeps wanting to believe DOGE is not going to go after DoD, or will only go after bloat and waste, or won't cut services that benefit red states.

Spoiler: They are and they will, so either get activated now or wait for them to come for you, but etiher way it's coming.


The administration will choke and back down. They are already backpedaling. Once they do it will show this is all posturing and has thing to do with “efficiency” or cost savings.

(Non-DOD fed employee)


+1

By all means let’s cut waste but this is not the way to do it.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This is Glenn Youngkin's chance to advocate for his state/constituents. I'm not holding my breath.

You’re late to the party. Youngkin declared early on that he was cool with DOGE’s actions.


Credible URL?
Anonymous
Washington Post is reporting that the initial firing will be 10 percent of probationary employees, which is a lot less than I expected.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This is Glenn Youngkin's chance to advocate for his state/constituents. I'm not holding my breath.

You’re late to the party. Youngkin declared early on that he was cool with DOGE’s actions.


Credible URL?

https://www.13newsnow.com/article/news/politics/national-politics/governor-youngkin-gop-governors-sign-doge-department-of-government-efficiency-letter-of-support/291-999e0427-7eed-42c4-89af-e9f6830d124d
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:CNN is reporting they want to fire 50,000 civilian employees at DOD. Which is insane.

The Defense Department has temporarily paused a plan to carry out mass firings of civilian probationary employees until Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth and the Pentagon’s Office of General Counsel can carry out a more thorough review of the impacts such firings could have on US military readiness, two defense officials familiar with the matter told CNN.

The pause comes after CNN reported on Wednesday that the mass terminations, which could affect over 50,000 civilian employees across the Pentagon, could run afoul of Title 10 section 129a of the US code. Following that report, Pentagon lawyers began reviewing the legality of the planned terminations more closely, the officials said.

That law says that the secretary of defense “may not reduce the civilian workforce programmed full-time equivalent levels unless the Secretary conducts an appropriate analysis” of how those firings could impact the US military’s lethality and readiness. The law also says that mitigating risk to US military readiness takes precedence over cost.


https://www.cnn.com/2025/02/21/politics/pentagon-firings-review/index.html


So they only bothered to check if this might affect military readiness because a law specifically said they had to. Not because that is F&CKING COMMON SENSE!!!!


“ The pause comes after CNN reported on Wednesday that the mass terminations, which could affect over 50,000 civilian employees across the Pentagon, could run afoul of Title 10 section 129a of the US code. Following that report, Pentagon lawyers began reviewing the legality of the planned terminations more closely, the officials said.

That law says that the secretary of defense “may not reduce the civilian workforce programmed full-time equivalent levels unless the Secretary conducts an appropriate analysis” of how those firings could impact the US military’s lethality and readiness. The law also says that mitigating risk to US military readiness takes precedence over cost.

A senior defense official told CNN on Wednesday that such an analysis had not been carried out before military leaders were ordered to make lists of employees to fire.”

Absolutely nuts. Hegseth needs to go. He’s a danger to our national security.





Hegseth is a DUI hire Fox talking head. I’m so sorry for our enlisted Americans who have this person in charge of their lives. He’s not worthy of this post.


"If everybody in this town connected with politics had to leave town because of chasing women and drinking, you would have no government."--Barry Goldwater

This was 60 years ago. Shouldn't we ask for better?
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