DOGE at DoD

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:CNN is reporting they want to fire 50,000 civilian employees at DOD. Which is insane.

The Defense Department has temporarily paused a plan to carry out mass firings of civilian probationary employees until Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth and the Pentagon’s Office of General Counsel can carry out a more thorough review of the impacts such firings could have on US military readiness, two defense officials familiar with the matter told CNN.

The pause comes after CNN reported on Wednesday that the mass terminations, which could affect over 50,000 civilian employees across the Pentagon, could run afoul of Title 10 section 129a of the US code. Following that report, Pentagon lawyers began reviewing the legality of the planned terminations more closely, the officials said.

That law says that the secretary of defense “may not reduce the civilian workforce programmed full-time equivalent levels unless the Secretary conducts an appropriate analysis” of how those firings could impact the US military’s lethality and readiness. The law also says that mitigating risk to US military readiness takes precedence over cost.

https://www.cnn.com/2025/02/21/politics/pentagon-firings-review/index.html

So they only bothered to check if this might affect military readiness because a law specifically said they had to. Not because that is F&CKING COMMON SENSE!!!!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:CNN is reporting they want to fire 50,000 civilian employees at DOD. Which is insane.

The Defense Department has temporarily paused a plan to carry out mass firings of civilian probationary employees until Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth and the Pentagon’s Office of General Counsel can carry out a more thorough review of the impacts such firings could have on US military readiness, two defense officials familiar with the matter told CNN.

The pause comes after CNN reported on Wednesday that the mass terminations, which could affect over 50,000 civilian employees across the Pentagon, could run afoul of Title 10 section 129a of the US code. Following that report, Pentagon lawyers began reviewing the legality of the planned terminations more closely, the officials said.

That law says that the secretary of defense “may not reduce the civilian workforce programmed full-time equivalent levels unless the Secretary conducts an appropriate analysis” of how those firings could impact the US military’s lethality and readiness. The law also says that mitigating risk to US military readiness takes precedence over cost.

https://www.cnn.com/2025/02/21/politics/pentagon-firings-review/index.html

So they only bothered to check if this might affect military readiness because a law specifically said they had to. Not because that is F&CKING COMMON SENSE!!!!

I thought we had no laws now….?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:CNN is reporting they want to fire 50,000 civilian employees at DOD. Which is insane.

The Defense Department has temporarily paused a plan to carry out mass firings of civilian probationary employees until Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth and the Pentagon’s Office of General Counsel can carry out a more thorough review of the impacts such firings could have on US military readiness, two defense officials familiar with the matter told CNN.

The pause comes after CNN reported on Wednesday that the mass terminations, which could affect over 50,000 civilian employees across the Pentagon, could run afoul of Title 10 section 129a of the US code. Following that report, Pentagon lawyers began reviewing the legality of the planned terminations more closely, the officials said.

That law says that the secretary of defense “may not reduce the civilian workforce programmed full-time equivalent levels unless the Secretary conducts an appropriate analysis” of how those firings could impact the US military’s lethality and readiness. The law also says that mitigating risk to US military readiness takes precedence over cost.

https://www.cnn.com/2025/02/21/politics/pentagon-firings-review/index.html

So they only bothered to check if this might affect military readiness because a law specifically said they had to. Not because that is F&CKING COMMON SENSE!!!!

“ The pause comes after CNN reported on Wednesday that the mass terminations, which could affect over 50,000 civilian employees across the Pentagon, could run afoul of Title 10 section 129a of the US code. Following that report, Pentagon lawyers began reviewing the legality of the planned terminations more closely, the officials said.

That law says that the secretary of defense “may not reduce the civilian workforce programmed full-time equivalent levels unless the Secretary conducts an appropriate analysis” of how those firings could impact the US military’s lethality and readiness. The law also says that mitigating risk to US military readiness takes precedence over cost.

A senior defense official told CNN on Wednesday that such an analysis had not been carried out before military leaders were ordered to make lists of employees to fire.”

Absolutely nuts. Hegseth needs to go. He’s a danger to our national security.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:CNN is reporting they want to fire 50,000 civilian employees at DOD. Which is insane.

The Defense Department has temporarily paused a plan to carry out mass firings of civilian probationary employees until Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth and the Pentagon’s Office of General Counsel can carry out a more thorough review of the impacts such firings could have on US military readiness, two defense officials familiar with the matter told CNN.

The pause comes after CNN reported on Wednesday that the mass terminations, which could affect over 50,000 civilian employees across the Pentagon, could run afoul of Title 10 section 129a of the US code. Following that report, Pentagon lawyers began reviewing the legality of the planned terminations more closely, the officials said.

That law says that the secretary of defense “may not reduce the civilian workforce programmed full-time equivalent levels unless the Secretary conducts an appropriate analysis” of how those firings could impact the US military’s lethality and readiness. The law also says that mitigating risk to US military readiness takes precedence over cost.

https://www.cnn.com/2025/02/21/politics/pentagon-firings-review/index.html

So they only bothered to check if this might affect military readiness because a law specifically said they had to. Not because that is F&CKING COMMON SENSE!!!!

I mean, I’m surprised that there being a law had any impact.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:CNN is reporting they want to fire 50,000 civilian employees at DOD. Which is insane.

The Defense Department has temporarily paused a plan to carry out mass firings of civilian probationary employees until Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth and the Pentagon’s Office of General Counsel can carry out a more thorough review of the impacts such firings could have on US military readiness, two defense officials familiar with the matter told CNN.

The pause comes after CNN reported on Wednesday that the mass terminations, which could affect over 50,000 civilian employees across the Pentagon, could run afoul of Title 10 section 129a of the US code. Following that report, Pentagon lawyers began reviewing the legality of the planned terminations more closely, the officials said.

That law says that the secretary of defense “may not reduce the civilian workforce programmed full-time equivalent levels unless the Secretary conducts an appropriate analysis” of how those firings could impact the US military’s lethality and readiness. The law also says that mitigating risk to US military readiness takes precedence over cost.

https://www.cnn.com/2025/02/21/politics/pentagon-firings-review/index.html

So they only bothered to check if this might affect military readiness because a law specifically said they had to. Not because that is F&CKING COMMON SENSE!!!!

Yes, you cannot fix STUPID!!

“ The pause comes after CNN reported on Wednesday that the mass terminations, which could affect over 50,000 civilian employees across the Pentagon, could run afoul of Title 10 section 129a of the US code. Following that report, Pentagon lawyers began reviewing the legality of the planned terminations more closely, the officials said.

That law says that the secretary of defense “may not reduce the civilian workforce programmed full-time equivalent levels unless the Secretary conducts an appropriate analysis” of how those firings could impact the US military’s lethality and readiness. The law also says that mitigating risk to US military readiness takes precedence over cost.

A senior defense official told CNN on Wednesday that such an analysis had not been carried out before military leaders were ordered to make lists of employees to fire.”

Absolutely nuts. Hegseth needs to go. He’s a danger to our national security.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Have DoD civilians in probationary status received formal written notice from HR of termination yet? Or just informal email?

Not yet. DoD is working an exemption list from what I’ve heard. I am sure some will be let go.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Have DoD civilians in probationary status received formal written notice from HR of termination yet? Or just informal email?

Not yet. DoD is working an exemption list from what I’ve heard. I am sure some will be let go.

Exemption requests, most of which will likely be rejected by DOGE who clearly knows better than immediate supervisors what jobs and people are most critical. The notices will go out after typical work hours tonight and over the weekend....that's the DOGE modus operandi. And they will ignore the rules and procedures for physically removing those employees who need to be 'read out' and escorted off the premises.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:New ROTC scholarships (beginning fall 2025) are frozen at the moment. No one knows what will happen.

Not surprised, but is this true?
DS is ROTC and was told her was being considered for, and therefore encouraged to apply for scholarship. But he needed medical waivers that have taken so frickin' long that he just finally got an ROTC contract. If THAT process were more efficient, he'd have contracted 11 months ago and could have been offered a scholarship for this year.

Likelihood of reinstating the scholarships? He'll be a junior, so it's now or never for him.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:New ROTC scholarships (beginning fall 2025) are frozen at the moment. No one knows what will happen.

Not surprised, but is this true?
DS is ROTC and was told her was being considered for, and therefore encouraged to apply for scholarship. But he needed medical waivers that have taken so frickin' long that he just finally got an ROTC contract. If THAT process were more efficient, he'd have contracted 11 months ago and could have been offered a scholarship for this year.

Likelihood of reinstating the scholarships? He'll be a junior, so it's now or never for him.

They are for Army--the second board happened in January and results are still pending. The Army finally made an announcement this week to say that they are indefinitely postposed.
The Army ROTC program had funding issues and a glut of officers pre-Hegseth so it's unclear if this is due to the new administration or if it a funding issue that predates him or is a combination of both.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Have DoD civilians in probationary status received formal written notice from HR of termination yet? Or just informal email?

Not yet. DoD is working an exemption list from what I’ve heard. I am sure some will be let go.

Exemption requests, most of which will likely be rejected by DOGE who clearly knows better than immediate supervisors what jobs and people are most critical. The notices will go out after typical work hours tonight and over the weekend....that's the DOGE modus operandi. And they will ignore the rules and procedures for physically removing those employees who need to be 'read out' and escorted off the premises.

Except they said they are “pausing” the firings for now. So probably not this weekend?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:CNN is reporting they want to fire 50,000 civilian employees at DOD. Which is insane.

The Defense Department has temporarily paused a plan to carry out mass firings of civilian probationary employees until Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth and the Pentagon’s Office of General Counsel can carry out a more thorough review of the impacts such firings could have on US military readiness, two defense officials familiar with the matter told CNN.

The pause comes after CNN reported on Wednesday that the mass terminations, which could affect over 50,000 civilian employees across the Pentagon, could run afoul of Title 10 section 129a of the US code. Following that report, Pentagon lawyers began reviewing the legality of the planned terminations more closely, the officials said.

That law says that the secretary of defense “may not reduce the civilian workforce programmed full-time equivalent levels unless the Secretary conducts an appropriate analysis” of how those firings could impact the US military’s lethality and readiness. The law also says that mitigating risk to US military readiness takes precedence over cost.

https://www.cnn.com/2025/02/21/politics/pentagon-firings-review/index.html

So they only bothered to check if this might affect military readiness because a law specifically said they had to. Not because that is F&CKING COMMON SENSE!!!!

“ The pause comes after CNN reported on Wednesday that the mass terminations, which could affect over 50,000 civilian employees across the Pentagon, could run afoul of Title 10 section 129a of the US code. Following that report, Pentagon lawyers began reviewing the legality of the planned terminations more closely, the officials said.

That law says that the secretary of defense “may not reduce the civilian workforce programmed full-time equivalent levels unless the Secretary conducts an appropriate analysis” of how those firings could impact the US military’s lethality and readiness. The law also says that mitigating risk to US military readiness takes precedence over cost.

A senior defense official told CNN on Wednesday that such an analysis had not been carried out before military leaders were ordered to make lists of employees to fire.”

Absolutely nuts. Hegseth needs to go. He’s a danger to our national security.

Who is your alternative to carry out the wishes of the new overlord? He's not putting anyone in that position who is experienced and possesses integrity.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:CNN is reporting they want to fire 50,000 civilian employees at DOD. Which is insane.

The Defense Department has temporarily paused a plan to carry out mass firings of civilian probationary employees until Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth and the Pentagon’s Office of General Counsel can carry out a more thorough review of the impacts such firings could have on US military readiness, two defense officials familiar with the matter told CNN.

The pause comes after CNN reported on Wednesday that the mass terminations, which could affect over 50,000 civilian employees across the Pentagon, could run afoul of Title 10 section 129a of the US code. Following that report, Pentagon lawyers began reviewing the legality of the planned terminations more closely, the officials said.

That law says that the secretary of defense “may not reduce the civilian workforce programmed full-time equivalent levels unless the Secretary conducts an appropriate analysis” of how those firings could impact the US military’s lethality and readiness. The law also says that mitigating risk to US military readiness takes precedence over cost.

https://www.cnn.com/2025/02/21/politics/pentagon-firings-review/index.html

So they only bothered to check if this might affect military readiness because a law specifically said they had to. Not because that is F&CKING COMMON SENSE!!!!

“ The pause comes after CNN reported on Wednesday that the mass terminations, which could affect over 50,000 civilian employees across the Pentagon, could run afoul of Title 10 section 129a of the US code. Following that report, Pentagon lawyers began reviewing the legality of the planned terminations more closely, the officials said.

That law says that the secretary of defense “may not reduce the civilian workforce programmed full-time equivalent levels unless the Secretary conducts an appropriate analysis” of how those firings could impact the US military’s lethality and readiness. The law also says that mitigating risk to US military readiness takes precedence over cost.

A senior defense official told CNN on Wednesday that such an analysis had not been carried out before military leaders were ordered to make lists of employees to fire.”

Absolutely nuts. Hegseth needs to go. He’s a danger to our national security.

Hegseth is a DUI hire Fox talking head. I’m so sorry for our enlisted Americans who have this person in charge of their lives. He’s not worthy of this post.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:CNN is reporting they want to fire 50,000 civilian employees at DOD. Which is insane.

The Defense Department has temporarily paused a plan to carry out mass firings of civilian probationary employees until Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth and the Pentagon’s Office of General Counsel can carry out a more thorough review of the impacts such firings could have on US military readiness, two defense officials familiar with the matter told CNN.

The pause comes after CNN reported on Wednesday that the mass terminations, which could affect over 50,000 civilian employees across the Pentagon, could run afoul of Title 10 section 129a of the US code. Following that report, Pentagon lawyers began reviewing the legality of the planned terminations more closely, the officials said.

That law says that the secretary of defense “may not reduce the civilian workforce programmed full-time equivalent levels unless the Secretary conducts an appropriate analysis” of how those firings could impact the US military’s lethality and readiness. The law also says that mitigating risk to US military readiness takes precedence over cost.

https://www.cnn.com/2025/02/21/politics/pentagon-firings-review/index.html

So they only bothered to check if this might affect military readiness because a law specifically said they had to. Not because that is F&CKING COMMON SENSE!!!!

I mean, I’m surprised that there being a law had any impact.

Probably a minimal delay to conduct a cursory analysis which reaches a conclusion that there are no issues with these cuts. While they wont let the law stop them this seems like a minor inconvenience they are willing to accommodate in a perfunctory manner to reach their goals.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:CNN is reporting they want to fire 50,000 civilian employees at DOD. Which is insane.

The Defense Department has temporarily paused a plan to carry out mass firings of civilian probationary employees until Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth and the Pentagon’s Office of General Counsel can carry out a more thorough review of the impacts such firings could have on US military readiness, two defense officials familiar with the matter told CNN.

The pause comes after CNN reported on Wednesday that the mass terminations, which could affect over 50,000 civilian employees across the Pentagon, could run afoul of Title 10 section 129a of the US code. Following that report, Pentagon lawyers began reviewing the legality of the planned terminations more closely, the officials said.

That law says that the secretary of defense “may not reduce the civilian workforce programmed full-time equivalent levels unless the Secretary conducts an appropriate analysis” of how those firings could impact the US military’s lethality and readiness. The law also says that mitigating risk to US military readiness takes precedence over cost.

https://www.cnn.com/2025/02/21/politics/pentagon-firings-review/index.html

So they only bothered to check if this might affect military readiness because a law specifically said they had to. Not because that is F&CKING COMMON SENSE!!!!

I mean, I’m surprised that there being a law had any impact.

Probably a minimal delay to conduct a cursory analysis which reaches a conclusion that there are no issues with these cuts. While they wont let the law stop them this seems like a minor inconvenience they are willing to accommodate in a perfunctory manner to reach their goals.

As someone whose lifesaving USAID-supported program was cut after a "review" of 30 seconds, good luck DoD friends.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:CNN is reporting they want to fire 50,000 civilian employees at DOD. Which is insane.

The Defense Department has temporarily paused a plan to carry out mass firings of civilian probationary employees until Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth and the Pentagon’s Office of General Counsel can carry out a more thorough review of the impacts such firings could have on US military readiness, two defense officials familiar with the matter told CNN.

The pause comes after CNN reported on Wednesday that the mass terminations, which could affect over 50,000 civilian employees across the Pentagon, could run afoul of Title 10 section 129a of the US code. Following that report, Pentagon lawyers began reviewing the legality of the planned terminations more closely, the officials said.

That law says that the secretary of defense “may not reduce the civilian workforce programmed full-time equivalent levels unless the Secretary conducts an appropriate analysis” of how those firings could impact the US military’s lethality and readiness. The law also says that mitigating risk to US military readiness takes precedence over cost.

https://www.cnn.com/2025/02/21/politics/pentagon-firings-review/index.html

So they only bothered to check if this might affect military readiness because a law specifically said they had to. Not because that is F&CKING COMMON SENSE!!!!

I mean, I’m surprised that there being a law had any impact.

Probably a minimal delay to conduct a cursory analysis which reaches a conclusion that there are no issues with these cuts. While they wont let the law stop them this seems like a minor inconvenience they are willing to accommodate in a perfunctory manner to reach their goals.

As someone whose lifesaving USAID-supported program was cut after a "review" of 30 seconds, good luck DoD friends.

Yeah, I don't know how anyone can seriously believe any "review" will be a quality, genuine evaluation.