Congresspersons and Senators Denied Entry to US Government Building

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Anonymous wrote:It doesn't matter if you hate USAID. It doesn't matter if you think the money they spend is a waste of taxpayer dollars. It doesn't matter if you think Musk is a genius and a renegade and superhero all wrapped up into one. None of it matters. What matters are the laws of the United States of America say there is a right way to do things, and Musk is operating outside of those laws right now. He has no legal authority to do what he is doing. So he needs to be stopped and held accountable.

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It is NOT about USAID. It's about letting a rogue agent take over the government and do whatever he wants.

Trump and the GOP can shutdown USAI, it's within their right. But there are rules,. procedures and laws for how to do it. Elon cannot fire employees who are civil servants and command government police forces. GTFO.

Elon does not run our entire government outside of the law.

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I'll keep posting this on threads all over the place until I'm blue in the face. It's the process everyone should be paying attention to, not just the outcome. Our democracy is built on a constitution and rule of law, and when you eliminate those, despite being happy with the outcome, you're an ignorant fool.

Come on. This just rings so hollow. Our country has an extremely long history of individual and collective action that breaks or bends then prevailing law—all the way back to the country’s founding fathers who knew they were risking their lives in declaring independence.

This goes all the way from the trivial (Harry Reid intentionally misleadingly insinuating that Mitt Romney was a tax cheat from the Senate floor—and laughing about it no less) to the most important issues (John Lewis and his good trouble).

Indeed, we’re less than 8 years removed from an FBI director leaking stories to the press, an FBI agent altering evidence in a warrant application and, as we speak, purported FBI agents are sharing details with each other on social media on how to anonymously leak information they are not authorized to disclose. My guess is that you are mostly supportive of these ethical and legal lapses (hopefully not on the warrant business), but we are to believe that all of a sudden you really care about the rule of law and process?

The left can’t spend the first Trump presidency declaring that he is such a unique threat to democracy that institutional guardrails should be ignored and then come back and assert institutional guardrails. It just has no credibility.

I’m not happy about violation of the law and institutional guardrails being ignored. But this has been happening for the better part of my adult life dating back to the second Bush administration. Why should we care now? Because this time it is different? Maybe you are right and this is the time to care. But after decades of this garbage, across both political parties, I just can’t…

Tell me, who elected or appointed Musk? Is he a Secretary? Of what?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Elon doubles down. Why is he hiding what is going on inside USAID?

The corrupt politicians “protesting” outside the USAID building are the ones getting money from USAID.

That’s why they’re there – they want your stolen tax dollars!

Sadly, MAGAs are stupid enough to believe this BS.

If you go to the conservative subreddit, it’s depressing AF. I mean it always has been but the level delusion is astounding.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It doesn't matter if you hate USAID. It doesn't matter if you think the money they spend is a waste of taxpayer dollars. It doesn't matter if you think Musk is a genius and a renegade and superhero all wrapped up into one. None of it matters. What matters are the laws of the United States of America say there is a right way to do things, and Musk is operating outside of those laws right now. He has no legal authority to do what he is doing. So he needs to be stopped and held accountable.

Exactly. Rule of law and checks and balances are what keep us from living in a dictatorship. Eliminate them at your peril.

[Anonymous]

Musk represents The President of the United States. Libs will be having a temper tantrum every day for the next four years. Good luck!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Ahhhh

Elon's disinformation crew has arrived, trying to direct the narrative away from HOW USAID was closed to trying to overwhelm the conversation to why USAID was closed. Yawn. This is trolling 101.

Again, DOGE was only established to RECOMMEND changes to the government, not to have unilateral power to close office and fire civil servants. Not even the president can give them that power.

I’m not a disinformation troll, I’m just now learning more about USAID.

Geopolitics is dirty, but reading more about USAID blows my mind.

This is an aid agency.

‘Cuban Twitter’ and Other Times USAID Pretended To Be an Intelligence Agency

Foreign Policy link:

https://foreignpolicy.com/2014/04/03/cuban-twitter-and-other-times-usaid-pretended-to-be-an-intelligence-agency/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Musk represents The President of the United States. Libs will be having a temper tantrum every day for the next four years. Good luck!

But he is not himself the President and does not have the rights and responsibilities nor the protections therein.

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Anonymous wrote:Where are the Capitol Police?

USAID is part of the executive branch.

And why are members of the legislative branch snooping around executive agencies?

Congress is allowed to snoop, is supposed to snoop. That's their job.

Was this a Congressional inquiry? A trip sponsored by Congress or a committee or subcommittee?

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Anonymous wrote:How was USAID associated with the CIA?

The argument/theory is that USAID was used to provide an indirect mechanism to funnel money into entities for various intelligence purposes. Like propping up a coup movement against an unpopular political figure.

I worked in an industry tangent to US contracting for a long time overseas as my firm was involved in reconstruction projects in Iraq and Afghanistan and heard some wild stories about USAID. Let me explain a simple situation. USAID gives funding to build water pipes to a village in whatever developing country. Sounds great and it is on the surface of it. But do you ever ask yourself who gets the contracts to actually build the pipes? And who owns the companies that builds the pipes? Most people don't and that's why the more jaded people say much of USAID funding ends up in the pockets of local corrupt politicians including national leaders of those countries.

Also looks like funding of research at a certain virology institution in China may have been through USAID.

I do think a lot of good activities is supported by USAID but to be frankly honest and based on the stories told by experienced NGO people overseas, that USAID could have been a front for CIA / intelligence activities does not surprise me at all. And I don't doubt we will learn a lot more in the next few months. People here hate Musk and DOGE but if those screenshots he's releasing on twitter are accurate, then just wow. That's why I would urge people to be a bit careful before rushing to defend USAID. We just don't know how much more will be revealed by an administration that seems determined to unclassify every classified secret in DC.

Thank you for the informative post. I did some digging on the Google machine and found out a little more about USAID.

Why is an aid agency creating a fake twitter to destabilize Cuba?

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/apr/03/us-cuban-twitter-zunzuneo-stir-unrest

I get politics is dirty, and geopolitics even dirtier, but couldn’t this have been done with another agency as to not taint the reputation of US foreign aid?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Musk represents The President of the United States. Libs will be having a temper tantrum every day for the next four years. Good luck!

In what capacity? Where does he fall in the constitutional order?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Musk represents The President of the United States. Libs will be having a temper tantrum every day for the next four years. Good luck!

By what authority?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Musk represents The President of the United States. Libs will be having a temper tantrum every day for the next four years. Good luck!

In what capacity? Where does he fall in the constitutional order?

He needs to be brought in to Congress and questioned extensively. If he has broken laws they, Congress, must charge him.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Musk represents The President of the United States. Libs will be having a temper tantrum every day for the next four years. Good luck!

Explain your first sentence?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Ahhhh

Elon's disinformation crew has arrived, trying to direct the narrative away from HOW USAID was closed to trying to overwhelm the conversation to why USAID was closed. Yawn. This is trolling 101.

Again, DOGE was only established to RECOMMEND changes to the government, not to have unilateral power to close office and fire civil servants. Not even the president can give them that power.

I’m not a disinformation troll, I’m just now learning more about USAID.

Geopolitics is dirty, but reading more about USAID blows my mind.

This is an aid agency.

‘Cuban Twitter’ and Other Times USAID Pretended To Be an Intelligence Agency

Foreign Policy link:

https://foreignpolicy.com/2014/04/03/cuban-twitter-and-other-times-usaid-pretended-to-be-an-intelligence-agency/

Here’s the EVIDENCE.
USAID is a front for the CIA.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Musk represents The President of the United States. Libs will be having a temper tantrum every day for the next four years. Good luck!

[Anonymous]

USAID was just a test case. Easier to justify—“wasn’t that already part of state?” “we are giving money to who??” “something something israel” “america first” etc. Musk doesn’t care about it beyond the fact that it helped end apartheid.

The oligarchs in power want to be able to say anything (SEC/FTC), buy anything (FTC), sell anything (FTC/CFPB), and build anything (EPA). But these gosh darn independent agencies are just so hard to buy. If only they were under some executive law enforcement agency run by someone the president you purchased could fire at will.