Is being a veteran a DEI classification?

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Unless it has changed, current employees (those with "status" ) also get preferential treatment. Some jobs are only open to current employees.

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Anonymous wrote:No. DEI is generally about immutable characteristics. Being a vet is about your work history. No one is born a vet.

You are confusing EEO with DEI. They are not the same. DEI is not about immutable characteristics

DEI would be fine if it changed two things: 1 drop the notion that our entire society is inherently flawed 2 change equity to equality.

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Anonymous wrote:No. Being a veteran is simply one of the qualifications a person can list when applying for a job.

It is not like the person is saying he/she is black, hispanic, gay, female, etc. It represents a position that have held in the past.

Not sure why you consider this DEI.

In the fed, you get extra points on the hiring scale for being a veteran. It has nothing to do with qualifications or past work assignments. What does flying a plane or working as an infantry grunt have to do with contracting or litigating a case? The answer is nothing, but that veteran will get preference over someone who has fifteen years of contracting experience as long as that veteran has one year of infantry and one year of contract experience. Yes, DEI meaning include the veterans to make the workforce diverse in experiences. Military diversity and inclusion.

You have no idea what you're talking about.

Um. I actually do.

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Anonymous wrote:Let me point out I have the utmost respect for veterans and think we as a country owe them for their service. But if you use their military service as a "leg up" in the private sector or for government jobs isn't that just another DEI classification? Just want to debate the merits of it if GOP wants to do away with all DEI.

Is one born a veteran?

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Anonymous wrote:No. Being a veteran is simply one of the qualifications a person can list when applying for a job.

It is not like the person is saying he/she is black, hispanic, gay, female, etc. It represents a position that have held in the past.

Not sure why you consider this DEI.

In the fed, you get extra points on the hiring scale for being a veteran. It has nothing to do with qualifications or past work assignments. What does flying a plane or working as an infantry grunt have to do with contracting or litigating a case? The answer is nothing, but that veteran will get preference over someone who has fifteen years of contracting experience as long as that veteran has one year of infantry and one year of contract experience. Yes, DEI meaning include the veterans to make the workforce diverse in experiences. Military diversity and inclusion.

Being a vet IS part of work requirements. It isn’t only about the tasks they do in the military but also about the attributes and values they gain in training.

And of course you think a person can only obtain these values in the military, right. What values and attributes do you think they gained that non-military personnel have been unable to attain

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No. Being a veteran is simply one of the qualifications a person can list when applying for a job.

It is not like the person is saying he/she is black, hispanic, gay, female, etc. It represents a position that have held in the past.

Not sure why you consider this DEI.

In the fed, you get extra points on the hiring scale for being a veteran. It has nothing to do with qualifications or past work assignments. What does flying a plane or working as an infantry grunt have to do with contracting or litigating a case? The answer is nothing, but that veteran will get preference over someone who has fifteen years of contracting experience as long as that veteran has one year of infantry and one year of contract experience. Yes, DEI meaning include the veterans to make the workforce diverse in experiences. Military diversity and inclusion.

Being a vet IS part of work requirements. It isn’t only about the tasks they do in the military but also about the attributes and values they gain in training.

In other words, DEI.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No. Being a veteran is simply one of the qualifications a person can list when applying for a job.

It is not like the person is saying he/she is black, hispanic, gay, female, etc. It represents a position that have held in the past.

Not sure why you consider this DEI.

+1 Experience in any field is not DEI.

So aaaaaaaaaaallllllllll the racial minorities applying for jobs had ZERO experience? Like at all? That’s what you’re saying?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No. Being a veteran is simply one of the qualifications a person can list when applying for a job.

It is not like the person is saying he/she is black, hispanic, gay, female, etc. It represents a position that have held in the past.

Not sure why you consider this DEI.

In the fed, you get extra points on the hiring scale for being a veteran. It has nothing to do with qualifications or past work assignments. What does flying a plane or working as an infantry grunt have to do with contracting or litigating a case? The answer is nothing, but that veteran will get preference over someone who has fifteen years of contracting experience as long as that veteran has one year of infantry and one year of contract experience. Yes, DEI meaning include the veterans to make the workforce diverse in experiences. Military diversity and inclusion.

Being a vet IS part of work requirements. It isn’t only about the tasks they do in the military but also about the attributes and values they gain in training.

From the hiring our heroes webpage:

“Hiring Our Heroes (HOH) connects the military community—service members, military spouses, and veterans—with American businesses to create economic opportunity and a strong and diversified workforce.”

Definitely DEI, even includes spouses…

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No. Being a veteran is simply one of the qualifications a person can list when applying for a job.

It is not like the person is saying he/she is black, hispanic, gay, female, etc. It represents a position that have held in the past.

Not sure why you consider this DEI.

In the fed, you get extra points on the hiring scale for being a veteran. It has nothing to do with qualifications or past work assignments. What does flying a plane or working as an infantry grunt have to do with contracting or litigating a case? The answer is nothing, but that veteran will get preference over someone who has fifteen years of contracting experience as long as that veteran has one year of infantry and one year of contract experience. Yes, DEI meaning include the veterans to make the workforce diverse in experiences. Military diversity and inclusion.

Being a vet IS part of work requirements. It isn’t only about the tasks they do in the military but also about the attributes and values they gain in training.

From the hiring our heroes webpage:

“Hiring Our Heroes (HOH) connects the military community—service members, military spouses, and veterans—with American businesses to create economic opportunity and a strong and diversified workforce.”

Definitely DEI, even includes spouses…

"Hiring our Heroes" is not a government agency. It is a project of the Chamber of Commerce.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No. Being a veteran is simply one of the qualifications a person can list when applying for a job.

It is not like the person is saying he/she is black, hispanic, gay, female, etc. It represents a position that have held in the past.

Not sure why you consider this DEI.

In the fed, you get extra points on the hiring scale for being a veteran. It has nothing to do with qualifications or past work assignments. What does flying a plane or working as an infantry grunt have to do with contracting or litigating a case? The answer is nothing, but that veteran will get preference over someone who has fifteen years of contracting experience as long as that veteran has one year of infantry and one year of contract experience. Yes, DEI meaning include the veterans to make the workforce diverse in experiences. Military diversity and inclusion.

Being a vet IS part of work requirements. It isn’t only about the tasks they do in the military but also about the attributes and values they gain in training.

From the hiring our heroes webpage:

“Hiring Our Heroes (HOH) connects the military community—service members, military spouses, and veterans—with American businesses to create economic opportunity and a strong and diversified workforce.”

Definitely DEI, even includes spouses…

"Hiring our Heroes" is not a government agency. It is a project of the Chamber of Commerce.

What’s your point? DEI is not “a government agency”, but rather a series of programs, values and incentives embraced by the public and private sector to give opportunities to disadvantaged groups. Hiring our heroes is a DEI program for vets and the non-profit that runs it helps vets and their spouses to attain, among other things, small business grants that are just for vets and their spouses (in other words those pesky DEI grants some people hate so much).

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Veterans get preferential treatment. DEI does not grant preferential treatment.

Veterans get a bigger boost in federal civil employment than anyone else because Congress intentionally made that the law. Applicants who are veterans get extra points.

Because it is based on SERVICE--not genetics.

Where did you get the idea that “diversity “ was only about genetics? DEI programs and standards vary widely, and they’re used to accomplish multiple—and different goals.

This!!! MAGA doesn't understand DEI but the way they use it veterans status is a classification.

Absolutely. 30% of vets only have a HS diploma…So yeah that hiring preference helps them a lot and definitely enables them to beat out more qualified candidates for jobs. The exact opposite of meritocracy.

[Anonymous]

There’s also derived preference where a spouse, widow or parent can use their loved one’s hiring preference if that person can’t.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It’s not DEI, it’s far better. It’s not just getting an opportunity to try, it’s being given preferential treatment on a silver plattter.

And they deserve it. How many people here would rather see their kids enlist after high school instead of heading to a 4 year college?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No. DEI is generally about immutable characteristics. Being a vet is about your work history. No one is born a vet.

You are confusing EEO with DEI. They are not the same. DEI is not about immutable characteristics

DEI would be fine if it changed two things: 1 drop the notion that our entire society is inherently flawed 2 change equity to equality.

Go look up the definition of equity and get back to us.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s not DEI, it’s far better. It’s not just getting an opportunity to try, it’s being given preferential treatment on a silver plattter.

And they deserve it. How many people here would rather see their kids enlist after high school instead of heading to a 4 year college?

Not I.