Is being a veteran a DEI classification?

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Anonymous wrote:No. Being a veteran is simply one of the qualifications a person can list when applying for a job.

It is not like the person is saying he/she is black, hispanic, gay, female, etc. It represents a position that have held in the past.

Not sure why you consider this DEI.

No. When you check the box as a veteran you get preferential treatment. That preference has nothing to do with your ability or qualifications for the job that you applied for. It is a DEI preference.

You mean preferential treatment due to a service you provided your country, and not due to the color of your skin or your gender? Oh.
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It means people who are LESS QUALIFIED for the job get a leg up.

If they were the best qualified, they wouldn’t need any preferential treatment.

This is false. They have to meet the basic qualifications regardless of their skin color or whatever else. More likely it's a case where, given 20 QUALIFIED applicants, the underrepresented QUALIFIED candidate might get picked in order to actually make the government's demographics look more like America's demographics rather than being completely dominated by white males. DEI does not make qualifications magically go away. Unqualified candidates get screened out long before that.

The narrative that highly qualified and vastly superior white men are being kicked to the curb in order to hire completely unqualified black lesbian dwarves with epilepsy and a missing leg is a lie.

Meeting the basic requirements doesn’t mean they are the best qualified.

The LESSER qualified vets are stealing jobs from better qualified applications.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It's how JD Vance got into Yale Law School.

I’ve heard that he also used “economic diversity” because he was from WV

Also geographic diversity. Easier to get into Yale from rural WV, they literally lower the qualifications based solely on geography! That is the opposite of merit.

Once again, he graduated from Ohio State summa cum laude.
That probably had something to do with his acceptance to Yale.

Be for real…summa cum laude or not…it was Ohio state.

[Anonymous]

DEI is diversity, equity and inclusion does not mean non-white hires. "The Veterans Act, specifically the Vietnam Era Veterans' Readjustment Assistance Act (VEVRAA), is very similar to affirmative action as it requires federal contractors to take proactive steps to recruit, hire, and promote qualified veterans, essentially acting as a form of affirmative action for veterans by prohibiting discrimination against them and encouraging their employment." Veteran preference is DEI.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:No. Being a veteran is simply one of the qualifications a person can list when applying for a job.

It is not like the person is saying he/she is black, hispanic, gay, female, etc. It represents a position that have held in the past.

Not sure why you consider this DEI.

No. When you check the box as a veteran you get preferential treatment. That preference has nothing to do with your ability or qualifications for the job that you applied for. It is a DEI preference.

It's an earned preference. It's part of the contract you sign when you commit yourself to live and die for your country during the term of your contract.

Anyone who feels this way about veterans but isn’t disgusted by how Trump is treating federal employees is a hypocrite. Lots of civilians serving side by side with the military, many vets themselves. Trump threw them out like yesterday’s trash. This is who some of you voted for.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s not DEI, it’s far better. It’s not just getting an opportunity to try, it’s being given preferential treatment on a silver platter.

Because you put yourself in harms way for the nation. A sacrifice was made for others, no matter who. THATS why, average citizen doesn't do squat for the country at that level.

Is this why the AA jet went down? Because someone made a "sacrifice" and that's important than being a qualified for the job they do?

Huh? What?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:No. Being a veteran is simply one of the qualifications a person can list when applying for a job.

It is not like the person is saying he/she is black, hispanic, gay, female, etc. It represents a position that have held in the past.

Not sure why you consider this DEI.

In the fed, you get extra points on the hiring scale for being a veteran. It has nothing to do with qualifications or past work assignments. What does flying a plane or working as an infantry grunt have to do with contracting or litigating a case? The answer is nothing, but that veteran will get preference over someone who has fifteen years of contracting experience as long as that veteran has one year of infantry and one year of contract experience. Yes, DEI meaning include the veterans to make the workforce diverse in experiences. Military diversity and inclusion.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:No. Being a veteran is simply one of the qualifications a person can list when applying for a job.

It is not like the person is saying he/she is black, hispanic, gay, female, etc. It represents a position that have held in the past.

Not sure why you consider this DEI.

No. When you check the box as a veteran you get preferential treatment. That preference has nothing to do with your ability or qualifications for the job that you applied for. It is a DEI preference.

No silly argument. Any race and members of both genders can become a veteran.

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You show your ignorance about DEI. And that’s half the problem with you people who talk shit out of the sides of your ear and know nothing about the subject matter DEI is not simply about race and gender.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It's how JD Vance got into Yale Law School.

Really? That's what you think?

You don't think that graduating from Ohio State summa cum laude had anything to do with that?

Lots of people graduate from college summa cum laude and Harvard has to make a distinction as to who to admit. It’s the same for undergraduate university. There are a limited number of slots. Stop playing stupid.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It’s not DEI, it’s far better. It’s not just getting an opportunity to try, it’s being given preferential treatment on a silver platter.

Because you put yourself in harms way for the nation. A sacrifice was made for others, no matter who. THATS why, average citizen doesn't do squat for the country at that level.

Is this why they AA jet went down? Because someone made a "sacrifice" and that's important than being a qualified for the job they do?

The jet went down because 1-the army thought it was a good idea to practice by flying helicopters blind and invisible around a busy civilian airport and 2-either the helicopter malfunctioned or the crew made a fatal error.

Clearly the army needs to stop hiring these unqualified veterans. Just because they are soldiers doesn't mean they should get the job of flying army helicopters over more qualified civilians.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If it gives preference that isn’t based on merit then yes. For example extra points on a civil service exam.

I don't agree. Being a veteran, and receiving an honorable discharge, says something about you. It shows you have what it takes to make it through basic training (not easy), it says you have work ethic and know how to work as a team, it shows you have courage and that you understand chain of command. These are qualities that others may not have or have not proven to have.

And how does it show you can do the job successfully as an accountant, contract specialist, program analyst, etc. I mean if the job was for example a federal LEO getting through basic camp and the other nonsense you wrote might be applicable to the job. But come on you’re not being honest when you say just being a proven team player qualifies you and should garner extra hiring points. A lacrosse captain is a good team player does that qualify for extra points in hiring. Lol

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:No. DEI is generally about immutable characteristics. Being a vet is about your work history. No one is born a vet.

You are confusing EEO with DEI. They are not the same. DEI is not about immutable characteristics

[Anonymous]

Do you have any idea what would happen to the small semblance of peace and stability left not just in this country but the world if the US did not have a strong military? Removing incentives to serve would be a massive leap toward destroying world peace. Comparing that to being hired on the basis of skin color over qualifications is beyond a red herring. Try to practice just a little critical thinking.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:No. Being a veteran is simply one of the qualifications a person can list when applying for a job.

It is not like the person is saying he/she is black, hispanic, gay, female, etc. It represents a position that have held in the past.

Not sure why you consider this DEI.

In the fed, you get extra points on the hiring scale for being a veteran. It has nothing to do with qualifications or past work assignments. What does flying a plane or working as an infantry grunt have to do with contracting or litigating a case? The answer is nothing, but that veteran will get preference over someone who has fifteen years of contracting experience as long as that veteran has one year of infantry and one year of contract experience. Yes, DEI meaning include the veterans to make the workforce diverse in experiences. Military diversity and inclusion.

You have no idea what you're talking about.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Do you have any idea what would happen to the small semblance of peace and stability left not just in this country but the world if the US did not have a strong military? Removing incentives to serve would be a massive leap toward destroying world peace. Comparing that to being hired on the basis of skin color over qualifications is beyond a red herring. Try to practice just a little critical thinking.

So you like this form of DEI but not other forms of DEI. It would have been easier to just say that.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:No. Being a veteran is simply one of the qualifications a person can list when applying for a job.

It is not like the person is saying he/she is black, hispanic, gay, female, etc. It represents a position that have held in the past.

Not sure why you consider this DEI.

In the fed, you get extra points on the hiring scale for being a veteran. It has nothing to do with qualifications or past work assignments. What does flying a plane or working as an infantry grunt have to do with contracting or litigating a case? The answer is nothing, but that veteran will get preference over someone who has fifteen years of contracting experience as long as that veteran has one year of infantry and one year of contract experience. Yes, DEI meaning include the veterans to make the workforce diverse in experiences. Military diversity and inclusion.

Being a vet IS part of work requirements. It isn’t only about the tasks they do in the military but also about the attributes and values they gain in training.