Is being a veteran a DEI classification?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:No. Being a veteran is simply one of the qualifications a person can list when applying for a job.

It is not like the person is saying he/she is black, hispanic, gay, female, etc. It represents a position that have held in the past.

Not sure why you consider this DEI.

In the fed, you get extra points on the hiring scale for being a veteran. It has nothing to do with qualifications or past work assignments. What does flying a plane or working as an infantry grunt have to do with contracting or litigating a case? The answer is nothing, but that veteran will get preference over someone who has fifteen years of contracting experience as long as that veteran has one year of infantry and one year of contract experience. Yes, DEI meaning include the veterans to make the workforce diverse in experiences. Military diversity and inclusion.

You have no idea what you're talking about.

Yes they do, it’s completely accurate. The bar for meeting basic qualifications is incredibly low. Once a veteran candidate is on a cert, it’s near impossible to prove they are unqualified, even if they bomb and interview, do hire a non vet.

These are facts. If you are for veteran preference and against DEI in principle, you are either a hypocrite or you don’t understand how veterans preference works.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It’s not DEI, it’s far better. It’s not just getting an opportunity to try, it’s being given preferential treatment on a silver plattter.

And they deserve it. How many people here would rather see their kids enlist after high school instead of heading to a 4 year college?

I think black people deserve a lot more after 300 years of slavery, 100 years of Jim Crow and no reparations but here we are. The MAGA wants to cherry pick the DEI they like. They should stop pretending and just call it DEWhite.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It’s not DEI, it’s far better. It’s not just getting an opportunity to try, it’s being given preferential treatment on a silver plattter.

And they deserve it. How many people here would rather see their kids enlist after high school instead of heading to a 4 year college?

Everybody has their preferred version of DEI, and you have yours.

[Anonymous]

Being a vet is absolutely DEI.

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Anonymous wrote:Veterans get preferential treatment. DEI does not grant preferential treatment.

Veterans get a bigger boost in federal civil employment than anyone else because Congress intentionally made that the law. Applicants who are veterans get extra points.

Because it is based on SERVICE--not genetics.

Where did you get the idea that “diversity “ was only about genetics? DEI programs and standards vary widely, and they’re used to accomplish multiple—and different goals.

This!!! MAGA doesn't understand DEI but the way they use it veterans status is a classification.

Absolutely. 30% of vets only have a HS diploma…So yeah that hiring preference helps them a lot and definitely enables them to beat out more qualified candidates for jobs. The exact opposite of meritocracy.

It gives them extra points. How many points are given for experience? College degrees? It does not guarantee then a job. It gives them 5 points on a scale of 100. I've not idea how many points you get for a degree, but I am guessing it is at least that many.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Veterans get preferential treatment. DEI does not grant preferential treatment.

Veterans get a bigger boost in federal civil employment than anyone else because Congress intentionally made that the law. Applicants who are veterans get extra points.

Because it is based on SERVICE--not genetics.

Where did you get the idea that “diversity “ was only about genetics? DEI programs and standards vary widely, and they’re used to accomplish multiple—and different goals.

This!!! MAGA doesn't understand DEI but the way they use it veterans status is a classification.

Absolutely. 30% of vets only have a HS diploma…So yeah that hiring preference helps them a lot and definitely enables them to beat out more qualified candidates for jobs. The exact opposite of meritocracy.

It gives them extra points. How many points are given for experience? College degrees? It does not guarantee then a job. It gives them 5 points on a scale of 100. I've not idea how many points you get for a degree, but I am guessing it is at least that many.

The points just get you through HR. There are additional benefits after that

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It’s not DEI, it’s far better. It’s not just getting an opportunity to try, it’s being given preferential treatment on a silver plattter.

And they deserve it. How many people here would rather see their kids enlist after high school instead of heading to a 4 year college?

Everybody has their preferred version of DEI, and you have yours.

When someone enlists they’re putting themselves at risk. They’re relocated to places they may/not want to go to, they’re at risk for PTSD, for injury, for death. They should get something in return for putting themselves on the line.

Not quite the same as going to a nice college in New England.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It’s not DEI, it’s far better. It’s not just getting an opportunity to try, it’s being given preferential treatment on a silver plattter.

And they deserve it. How many people here would rather see their kids enlist after high school instead of heading to a 4 year college?

Everybody has their preferred version of DEI, and you have yours.

When someone enlists they’re putting themselves at risk. They’re relocated to places they may/not want to go to, they’re at risk for PTSD, for injury, for death. They should get something in return for putting themselves on the line.

Not quite the same as going to a nice college in New England.

And a poor kid who goes to a dangerous inner city school with high crime and dropout rates but takes the toughest classes their school has to offer and gets the best grades— but maybe not the best SAT scores because it’s still a not great inner city school and they can’t afford SAT prep—will be called a DEI pick if they get accepted to Harvard. That’s called being set up to fail b/c that kid maximized every possible opportunity available to them but it was the opportunities not the kid that was insufficient. But MAGA has a problem with that kind of DEI. No “points” for resilience and perseverance in a crap environment. But we should give those same points to military. Research has shown that some inner city neighborhoods are comparable to war zones and living in them can give people ptsd.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s not DEI, it’s far better. It’s not just getting an opportunity to try, it’s being given preferential treatment on a silver plattter.

And they deserve it. How many people here would rather see their kids enlist after high school instead of heading to a 4 year college?

Everybody has their preferred version of DEI, and you have yours.

When someone enlists they’re putting themselves at risk. They’re relocated to places they may/not want to go to, they’re at risk for PTSD, for injury, for death. They should get something in return for putting themselves on the line.

Not quite the same as going to a nice college in New England.

And a poor kid who goes to a dangerous inner city school with high crime and dropout rates but takes the toughest classes their school has to offer and gets the best grades— but maybe not the best SAT scores because it’s still a not great inner city school and they can’t afford SAT prep—will be called a DEI pick if they get accepted to Harvard. That’s called being set up to fail b/c that kid maximized every possible opportunity available to them but it was the opportunities not the kid that was insufficient. But MAGA has a problem with that kind of DEI. No “points” for resilience and perseverance in a crap environment. But we should give those same points to military. Research has shown that some inner city neighborhoods are comparable to war zones and living in them can give people ptsd.

Veterans preference is different. Military personnel basically give themselves to the government, so in return, the government should absolutely give them something in return for their service. And for many, that something is a steady, protected job that isn’t at the mercy of the stock market.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s not DEI, it’s far better. It’s not just getting an opportunity to try, it’s being given preferential treatment on a silver plattter.

And they deserve it. How many people here would rather see their kids enlist after high school instead of heading to a 4 year college?

Everybody has their preferred version of DEI, and you have yours.

When someone enlists they’re putting themselves at risk. They’re relocated to places they may/not want to go to, they’re at risk for PTSD, for injury, for death. They should get something in return for putting themselves on the line.

Not quite the same as going to a nice college in New England.

And a poor kid who goes to a dangerous inner city school with high crime and dropout rates but takes the toughest classes their school has to offer and gets the best grades— but maybe not the best SAT scores because it’s still a not great inner city school and they can’t afford SAT prep—will be called a DEI pick if they get accepted to Harvard. That’s called being set up to fail b/c that kid maximized every possible opportunity available to them but it was the opportunities not the kid that was insufficient. But MAGA has a problem with that kind of DEI. No “points” for resilience and perseverance in a crap environment. But we should give those same points to military. Research has shown that some inner city neighborhoods are comparable to war zones and living in them can give people ptsd.

Veterans preference is different. Military personnel basically give themselves to the government, so in return, the government should absolutely give them something in return for their service. And for many, that something is a steady, protected job that isn’t at the mercy of the stock market.

So, equity?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s not DEI, it’s far better. It’s not just getting an opportunity to try, it’s being given preferential treatment on a silver plattter.

And they deserve it. How many people here would rather see their kids enlist after high school instead of heading to a 4 year college?

Everybody has their preferred version of DEI, and you have yours.

When someone enlists they’re putting themselves at risk. They’re relocated to places they may/not want to go to, they’re at risk for PTSD, for injury, for death. They should get something in return for putting themselves on the line.

Not quite the same as going to a nice college in New England.

And a poor kid who goes to a dangerous inner city school with high crime and dropout rates but takes the toughest classes their school has to offer and gets the best grades— but maybe not the best SAT scores because it’s still a not great inner city school and they can’t afford SAT prep—will be called a DEI pick if they get accepted to Harvard. That’s called being set up to fail b/c that kid maximized every possible opportunity available to them but it was the opportunities not the kid that was insufficient. But MAGA has a problem with that kind of DEI. No “points” for resilience and perseverance in a crap environment. But we should give those same points to military. Research has shown that some inner city neighborhoods are comparable to war zones and living in them can give people ptsd.

Veterans preference is different. Military personnel basically give themselves to the government, so in return, the government should absolutely give them something in return for their service. And for many, that something is a steady, protected job that isn’t at the mercy of the stock market.

Meh, we’re going in circles at this point. The same can be said for civil service employees that Trump is treating like crap right now. Civil service employees go into harms way frequently throughout their careers as well. The MAGAs need to get really clear because you’re looking like a bunch of hypocrites.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s not DEI, it’s far better. It’s not just getting an opportunity to try, it’s being given preferential treatment on a silver plattter.

And they deserve it. How many people here would rather see their kids enlist after high school instead of heading to a 4 year college?

Everybody has their preferred version of DEI, and you have yours.

When someone enlists they’re putting themselves at risk. They’re relocated to places they may/not want to go to, they’re at risk for PTSD, for injury, for death. They should get something in return for putting themselves on the line.

Not quite the same as going to a nice college in New England.

And a poor kid who goes to a dangerous inner city school with high crime and dropout rates but takes the toughest classes their school has to offer and gets the best grades— but maybe not the best SAT scores because it’s still a not great inner city school and they can’t afford SAT prep—will be called a DEI pick if they get accepted to Harvard. That’s called being set up to fail b/c that kid maximized every possible opportunity available to them but it was the opportunities not the kid that was insufficient. But MAGA has a problem with that kind of DEI. No “points” for resilience and perseverance in a crap environment. But we should give those same points to military. Research has shown that some inner city neighborhoods are comparable to war zones and living in them can give people ptsd.

Veterans preference is different. Military personnel basically give themselves to the government, so in return, the government should absolutely give them something in return for their service. And for many, that something is a steady, protected job that isn’t at the mercy of the stock market.

Meh, we’re going in circles at this point. The same can be said for civil service employees that Trump is treating like crap right now. Civil service employees go into harms way frequently throughout their careers as well. The MAGAs need to get really clear because you’re looking like a bunch of hypocrites.

🤷‍♀️ There’s a reason we say “thank you for your service.” How many of us would run for the hills before we let our kids get drafted?

As far as DEI goes, most people born and raised in adversity can use a little help. Let’s face it— not everyone is Elie Wiesel. Sent to Auschwitz and Buchenwald as a teenager, was surrounded by death, watched his own father die, was liberated, then went on to become a professor, author and Nobel Laureate. Pre DEI. One in a million, right?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s not DEI, it’s far better. It’s not just getting an opportunity to try, it’s being given preferential treatment on a silver plattter.

And they deserve it. How many people here would rather see their kids enlist after high school instead of heading to a 4 year college?

Everybody has their preferred version of DEI, and you have yours.

When someone enlists they’re putting themselves at risk. They’re relocated to places they may/not want to go to, they’re at risk for PTSD, for injury, for death. They should get something in return for putting themselves on the line.

Not quite the same as going to a nice college in New England.

And a poor kid who goes to a dangerous inner city school with high crime and dropout rates but takes the toughest classes their school has to offer and gets the best grades— but maybe not the best SAT scores because it’s still a not great inner city school and they can’t afford SAT prep—will be called a DEI pick if they get accepted to Harvard. That’s called being set up to fail b/c that kid maximized every possible opportunity available to them but it was the opportunities not the kid that was insufficient. But MAGA has a problem with that kind of DEI. No “points” for resilience and perseverance in a crap environment. But we should give those same points to military. Research has shown that some inner city neighborhoods are comparable to war zones and living in them can give people ptsd.

Veterans preference is different. Military personnel basically give themselves to the government, so in return, the government should absolutely give them something in return for their service. And for many, that something is a steady, protected job that isn’t at the mercy of the stock market.

Meh, we’re going in circles at this point. The same can be said for civil service employees that Trump is treating like crap right now. Civil service employees go into harms way frequently throughout their careers as well. The MAGAs need to get really clear because you’re looking like a bunch of hypocrites.

🤷‍♀️ There’s a reason we say “thank you for your service.” How many of us would run for the hills before we let our kids get drafted?

As far as DEI goes, most people born and raised in adversity can use a little help. Let’s face it— not everyone is Elie Wiesel. Sent to Auschwitz and Buchenwald as a teenager, was surrounded by death, watched his own father die, was liberated, then went on to become a professor, author and Nobel Laureate. Pre DEI. One in a million, right?

As far as DEI goes, being a veteran is one of the categories. Nobody is saying there is anything wrong with that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Technically, yes it is.

Technically, not it isn't. It applies to all veterans who would not be covered under all DEI categories. White men still serve in large numbers in the military and would not be under any DEI categories unless they had something else that fit the definition, such as transgenderism.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Technically, yes it is.

Technically, not it isn't. It applies to all veterans who would not be covered under all DEI categories. White men still serve in large numbers in the military and would not be under any DEI categories unless they had something else that fit the definition, such as transgenderism.

You don't understand what DEI is.