Brown

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Anonymous wrote:Brown is a great institution with a really positive, strong identity but its achilles heel is its endowment per capita, esp relative to its peers. This said, Columbia (a very different institution, all the same) is in even worse shape.

Columbia is in terrible shape; Brown is on the rise

Terrible shape? It’s more popular than brown.

[Anonymous]

Can we please stop beating a dead horse? They are all incredible schools. Period.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Brown just seems cooler than most of the other Ivies (my unhooked kid was accepted ED). Penn is huge, full of strivers, and at the admissions visit they described the school as a "mid-sized Ivy League school" 15x. Harvard and Princeton are ultra-elitist, and really play that up; Yale to a lesser extent. Dartmouth is a rural LAC with a huge Greek system, and Cornell is as big as a state school and very pre-professional. Of course half of HYP kids end up at soul-killing lucrative jobs in finance and consulting; there's a ton of peer pressure to do that sort of thing. Brown seems elite but not elitist, and far fewer students feel forced into finance, cs, consulting and so on. Above all, it just seems like a school that knows what it is and is comfortable being what it is: it is not trying to be Harvard or Princeton, and it doesn't play up its status as an Ivy league institution. The kids seem happy and love being there. Only Yale seems to have a little bit of the same feel, though it is more exclusive and elitist.

We know 3 males at Brown. All 3 are striving for this, and have been since before they came to Brown. All gun for competitive clubs and were surprised they were competitive there. All three wanted Penn or Harvard and all 3 settled for Brown in RD. Uber rich boarding school and they were not top 15% there, and are unhooked, which means Cornell or Brown and they are lucky they got in RD (one had a coach call and get a walkon spot). They describe Brown kids as just as focused at getting into consulting as Penn, as a positive trait. What is funny is they do not realize a large amount of the ones going consulting from Penn are the engineers, especially the two dual degree tracks, as well as the math kids in CAS. The ones who do it from Brown take very different (more rigorous) classes than these have chosen. Brown is an excellent school but do not delude yourself into thinking that the preprofessional finance/consulting strivers are not rampant there. They are everywhere, at every top 15 private. In boarding school/day school Boston circles we send our kids to all T15s and know the current vibes compared to when many of us attended these: finance/MBB/JaneSt et al is just what the current kids aim for, if they are not premed or prelaw Law apps are up 25% this year, with many KJD apps! Biggest increase in years.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Brown just seems cooler than most of the other Ivies (my unhooked kid was accepted ED). Penn is huge, full of strivers, and at the admissions visit they described the school as a "mid-sized Ivy League school" 15x. Harvard and Princeton are ultra-elitist, and really play that up; Yale to a lesser extent. Dartmouth is a rural LAC with a huge Greek system, and Cornell is as big as a state school and very pre-professional. Of course half of HYP kids end up at soul-killing lucrative jobs in finance and consulting; there's a ton of peer pressure to do that sort of thing. Brown seems elite but not elitist, and far fewer students feel forced into finance, cs, consulting and so on. Above all, it just seems like a school that knows what it is and is comfortable being what it is: it is not trying to be Harvard or Princeton, and it doesn't play up its status as an Ivy league institution. The kids seem happy and love being there. Only Yale seems to have a little bit of the same feel, though it is more exclusive and elitist.

We know 3 males at Brown. All 3 are striving for this, and have been since before they came to Brown. All gun for competitive clubs and were surprised they were competitive there. All three wanted Penn or Harvard and all 3 settled for Brown in RD. Uber rich boarding school and they were not top 15% there, and are unhooked, which means Cornell or Brown and they are lucky they got in RD (one had a coach call and get a walkon spot). They describe Brown kids as just as focused at getting into consulting as Penn, as a positive trait. What is funny is they do not realize a large amount of the ones going consulting from Penn are the engineers, especially the two dual degree tracks, as well as the math kids in CAS. The ones who do it from Brown take very different (more rigorous) classes than these have chosen. Brown is an excellent school but do not delude yourself into thinking that the preprofessional finance/consulting strivers are not rampant there. They are everywhere, at every top 15 private. In boarding school/day school Boston circles we send our kids to all T15s and know the current vibes compared to when many of us attended these: finance/MBB/JaneSt et al is just what the current kids aim for, if they are not premed or prelaw Law apps are up 25% this year, with many KJD apps! Biggest increase in years.

The boarding school kids, like my private school kids, are getting the summer internships fast-tracked through personal connections. They all now have the pedigree colleges on their resumes.

All I do all day long (it seems) is help introducing/endorsing my friends’ kids for various banking/consulting/asset management internships.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Brown just seems cooler than most of the other Ivies (my unhooked kid was accepted ED). Penn is huge, full of strivers, and at the admissions visit they described the school as a "mid-sized Ivy League school" 15x. Harvard and Princeton are ultra-elitist, and really play that up; Yale to a lesser extent. Dartmouth is a rural LAC with a huge Greek system, and Cornell is as big as a state school and very pre-professional. Of course half of HYP kids end up at soul-killing lucrative jobs in finance and consulting; there's a ton of peer pressure to do that sort of thing. Brown seems elite but not elitist, and far fewer students feel forced into finance, cs, consulting and so on. Above all, it just seems like a school that knows what it is and is comfortable being what it is: it is not trying to be Harvard or Princeton, and it doesn't play up its status as an Ivy league institution. The kids seem happy and love being there. Only Yale seems to have a little bit of the same feel, though it is more exclusive and elitist.

My DD chose Brown over Yale last year for these reasons. She loves it and knows she made the right choice.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Brown just seems cooler than most of the other Ivies (my unhooked kid was accepted ED). Penn is huge, full of strivers, and at the admissions visit they described the school as a "mid-sized Ivy League school" 15x. Harvard and Princeton are ultra-elitist, and really play that up; Yale to a lesser extent. Dartmouth is a rural LAC with a huge Greek system, and Cornell is as big as a state school and very pre-professional. Of course half of HYP kids end up at soul-killing lucrative jobs in finance and consulting; there's a ton of peer pressure to do that sort of thing. Brown seems elite but not elitist, and far fewer students feel forced into finance, cs, consulting and so on. Above all, it just seems like a school that knows what it is and is comfortable being what it is: it is not trying to be Harvard or Princeton, and it doesn't play up its status as an Ivy league institution. The kids seem happy and love being there. Only Yale seems to have a little bit of the same feel, though it is more exclusive and elitist.

We know 3 males at Brown. All 3 are striving for this, and have been since before they came to Brown. All gun for competitive clubs and were surprised they were competitive there. All three wanted Penn or Harvard and all 3 settled for Brown in RD. Uber rich boarding school and they were not top 15% there, and are unhooked, which means Cornell or Brown and they are lucky they got in RD (one had a coach call and get a walkon spot). They describe Brown kids as just as focused at getting into consulting as Penn, as a positive trait. What is funny is they do not realize a large amount of the ones going consulting from Penn are the engineers, especially the two dual degree tracks, as well as the math kids in CAS. The ones who do it from Brown take very different (more rigorous) classes than these have chosen. Brown is an excellent school but do not delude yourself into thinking that the preprofessional finance/consulting strivers are not rampant there. They are everywhere, at every top 15 private. In boarding school/day school Boston circles we send our kids to all T15s and know the current vibes compared to when many of us attended these: finance/MBB/JaneSt et al is just what the current kids aim for, if they are not premed or prelaw Law apps are up 25% this year, with many KJD apps! Biggest increase in years.

The boarding school kids, like my private school kids, are getting the summer internships fast-tracked through personal connections. They all now have the pedigree colleges on their resumes.

All I do all day long (it seems) is help introducing/endorsing my friends’ kids for various banking/consulting/asset management internships.

This is the dumbest thing I have heard all day.

[Anonymous]

Well, it’s still early.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Brown just seems cooler than most of the other Ivies (my unhooked kid was accepted ED). Penn is huge, full of strivers, and at the admissions visit they described the school as a "mid-sized Ivy League school" 15x. Harvard and Princeton are ultra-elitist, and really play that up; Yale to a lesser extent. Dartmouth is a rural LAC with a huge Greek system, and Cornell is as big as a state school and very pre-professional. Of course half of HYP kids end up at soul-killing lucrative jobs in finance and consulting; there's a ton of peer pressure to do that sort of thing. Brown seems elite but not elitist, and far fewer students feel forced into finance, cs, consulting and so on. Above all, it just seems like a school that knows what it is and is comfortable being what it is: it is not trying to be Harvard or Princeton, and it doesn't play up its status as an Ivy league institution. The kids seem happy and love being there. Only Yale seems to have a little bit of the same feel, though it is more exclusive and elitist.

We know 3 males at Brown. All 3 are striving for this, and have been since before they came to Brown. All gun for competitive clubs and were surprised they were competitive there. All three wanted Penn or Harvard and all 3 settled for Brown in RD. Uber rich boarding school and they were not top 15% there, and are unhooked, which means Cornell or Brown and they are lucky they got in RD (one had a coach call and get a walkon spot). They describe Brown kids as just as focused at getting into consulting as Penn, as a positive trait. What is funny is they do not realize a large amount of the ones going consulting from Penn are the engineers, especially the two dual degree tracks, as well as the math kids in CAS. The ones who do it from Brown take very different (more rigorous) classes than these have chosen. Brown is an excellent school but do not delude yourself into thinking that the preprofessional finance/consulting strivers are not rampant there. They are everywhere, at every top 15 private. In boarding school/day school Boston circles we send our kids to all T15s and know the current vibes compared to when many of us attended these: finance/MBB/JaneSt et al is just what the current kids aim for, if they are not premed or prelaw Law apps are up 25% this year, with many KJD apps! Biggest increase in years.

what are KJD apps?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Brown just seems cooler than most of the other Ivies (my unhooked kid was accepted ED). Penn is huge, full of strivers, and at the admissions visit they described the school as a "mid-sized Ivy League school" 15x. Harvard and Princeton are ultra-elitist, and really play that up; Yale to a lesser extent. Dartmouth is a rural LAC with a huge Greek system, and Cornell is as big as a state school and very pre-professional. Of course half of HYP kids end up at soul-killing lucrative jobs in finance and consulting; there's a ton of peer pressure to do that sort of thing. Brown seems elite but not elitist, and far fewer students feel forced into finance, cs, consulting and so on. Above all, it just seems like a school that knows what it is and is comfortable being what it is: it is not trying to be Harvard or Princeton, and it doesn't play up its status as an Ivy league institution. The kids seem happy and love being there. Only Yale seems to have a little bit of the same feel, though it is more exclusive and elitist.

We know 3 males at Brown. All 3 are striving for this, and have been since before they came to Brown. All gun for competitive clubs and were surprised they were competitive there. All three wanted Penn or Harvard and all 3 settled for Brown in RD. Uber rich boarding school and they were not top 15% there, and are unhooked, which means Cornell or Brown and they are lucky they got in RD (one had a coach call and get a walkon spot). They describe Brown kids as just as focused at getting into consulting as Penn, as a positive trait. What is funny is they do not realize a large amount of the ones going consulting from Penn are the engineers, especially the two dual degree tracks, as well as the math kids in CAS. The ones who do it from Brown take very different (more rigorous) classes than these have chosen. Brown is an excellent school but do not delude yourself into thinking that the preprofessional finance/consulting strivers are not rampant there. They are everywhere, at every top 15 private. In boarding school/day school Boston circles we send our kids to all T15s and know the current vibes compared to when many of us attended these: finance/MBB/JaneSt et al is just what the current kids aim for, if they are not premed or prelaw Law apps are up 25% this year, with many KJD apps! Biggest increase in years.

what are KJD apps?

KJD means Kindergarten-J.D.

Essentially shorthand for an applicant who has been in school continuously their whole life without a gap year or year(s) of full-time work experience.

Which went out of fashion for a decade, but its back. Bc law school is BIG Business.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Brown just seems cooler than most of the other Ivies (my unhooked kid was accepted ED). Penn is huge, full of strivers, and at the admissions visit they described the school as a "mid-sized Ivy League school" 15x. Harvard and Princeton are ultra-elitist, and really play that up; Yale to a lesser extent. Dartmouth is a rural LAC with a huge Greek system, and Cornell is as big as a state school and very pre-professional. Of course half of HYP kids end up at soul-killing lucrative jobs in finance and consulting; there's a ton of peer pressure to do that sort of thing. Brown seems elite but not elitist, and far fewer students feel forced into finance, cs, consulting and so on. Above all, it just seems like a school that knows what it is and is comfortable being what it is: it is not trying to be Harvard or Princeton, and it doesn't play up its status as an Ivy league institution. The kids seem happy and love being there. Only Yale seems to have a little bit of the same feel, though it is more exclusive and elitist.

We know 3 males at Brown. All 3 are striving for this, and have been since before they came to Brown. All gun for competitive clubs and were surprised they were competitive there. All three wanted Penn or Harvard and all 3 settled for Brown in RD. Uber rich boarding school and they were not top 15% there, and are unhooked[u], which means Cornell or Brown and they are lucky they got in RD (one had a coach call and get a walkon spot). They describe Brown kids as just as focused at getting into consulting as Penn, as a positive trait. What is funny is they do not realize a large amount of the ones going consulting from Penn are the engineers, especially the two dual degree tracks, as well as the math kids in CAS. The ones who do it from Brown take very different (more rigorous) classes than these have chosen. Brown is an excellent school but do not delude yourself into thinking that the preprofessional finance/consulting strivers are not rampant there. They are everywhere, at every top 15 private. In boarding school/day school Boston circles we send our kids to all T15s and know the current vibes compared to when many of us attended these: finance/MBB/JaneSt et al is just what the current kids aim for, if they are not premed or prelaw Law apps are up 25% this year, with many KJD apps! Biggest increase in years.

You do not understand what unhooked means and a coach doesn't just call. Makes everything you wrote seem like you misunderstood or are misrepresenting what has happened.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Brown just seems cooler than most of the other Ivies (my unhooked kid was accepted ED). Penn is huge, full of strivers, and at the admissions visit they described the school as a "mid-sized Ivy League school" 15x. Harvard and Princeton are ultra-elitist, and really play that up; Yale to a lesser extent. Dartmouth is a rural LAC with a huge Greek system, and Cornell is as big as a state school and very pre-professional. Of course half of HYP kids end up at soul-killing lucrative jobs in finance and consulting; there's a ton of peer pressure to do that sort of thing. Brown seems elite but not elitist, and far fewer students feel forced into finance, cs, consulting and so on. Above all, it just seems like a school that knows what it is and is comfortable being what it is: it is not trying to be Harvard or Princeton, and it doesn't play up its status as an Ivy league institution. The kids seem happy and love being there. Only Yale seems to have a little bit of the same feel, though it is more exclusive and elitist.

My DD chose Brown over Yale last year for these reasons. She loves it and knows she made the right choice.

Sounds awfully self-serving since the “reasons” are neither compelling nor well articulated. Few students would turn down Yale for Brown.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Brown just seems cooler than most of the other Ivies (my unhooked kid was accepted ED). Penn is huge, full of strivers, and at the admissions visit they described the school as a "mid-sized Ivy League school" 15x. Harvard and Princeton are ultra-elitist, and really play that up; Yale to a lesser extent. Dartmouth is a rural LAC with a huge Greek system, and Cornell is as big as a state school and very pre-professional. Of course half of HYP kids end up at soul-killing lucrative jobs in finance and consulting; there's a ton of peer pressure to do that sort of thing. Brown seems elite but not elitist, and far fewer students feel forced into finance, cs, consulting and so on. Above all, it just seems like a school that knows what it is and is comfortable being what it is: it is not trying to be Harvard or Princeton, and it doesn't play up its status as an Ivy league institution. The kids seem happy and love being there. Only Yale seems to have a little bit of the same feel, though it is more exclusive and elitist.

We know 3 males at Brown. All 3 are striving for this, and have been since before they came to Brown. All gun for competitive clubs and were surprised they were competitive there. All three wanted Penn or Harvard and all 3 settled for Brown in RD. Uber rich boarding school and they were not top 15% there, and are unhooked, which means Cornell or Brown and they are lucky they got in RD (one had a coach call and get a walkon spot). They describe Brown kids as just as focused at getting into consulting as Penn, as a positive trait. What is funny is they do not realize a large amount of the ones going consulting from Penn are the engineers, especially the two dual degree tracks, as well as the math kids in CAS. The ones who do it from Brown take very different (more rigorous) classes than these have chosen. Brown is an excellent school but do not delude yourself into thinking that the preprofessional finance/consulting strivers are not rampant there. They are everywhere, at every top 15 private. In boarding school/day school Boston circles we send our kids to all T15s and know the current vibes compared to when many of us attended these: finance/MBB/JaneSt et al is just what the current kids aim for, if they are not premed or prelaw Law apps are up 25% this year, with many KJD apps! Biggest increase in years.

what are KJD apps?

KJD means Kindergarten-J.D.

Essentially shorthand for an applicant who has been in school continuously their whole life without a gap year or year(s) of full-time work experience.

Which went out of fashion for a decade, but its back. Bc law school is BIG Business.

KJD apps almost always increase when entry-level post-college employment options are not great.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Brown just seems cooler than most of the other Ivies (my unhooked kid was accepted ED). Penn is huge, full of strivers, and at the admissions visit they described the school as a "mid-sized Ivy League school" 15x. Harvard and Princeton are ultra-elitist, and really play that up; Yale to a lesser extent. Dartmouth is a rural LAC with a huge Greek system, and Cornell is as big as a state school and very pre-professional. Of course half of HYP kids end up at soul-killing lucrative jobs in finance and consulting; there's a ton of peer pressure to do that sort of thing. Brown seems elite but not elitist, and far fewer students feel forced into finance, cs, consulting and so on. Above all, it just seems like a school that knows what it is and is comfortable being what it is: it is not trying to be Harvard or Princeton, and it doesn't play up its status as an Ivy league institution. The kids seem happy and love being there. Only Yale seems to have a little bit of the same feel, though it is more exclusive and elitist.

My DD chose Brown over Yale last year for these reasons. She loves it and knows she made the right choice.

Sounds awfully self-serving since the “reasons” are neither compelling nor well articulated. Few students would turn down Yale for Brown.

DP. Those who prefer Brown to Yale don't apply to Yale, whereas those who prefer Yale to Brown apply to both.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Brown just seems cooler than most of the other Ivies (my unhooked kid was accepted ED). Penn is huge, full of strivers, and at the admissions visit they described the school as a "mid-sized Ivy League school" 15x. Harvard and Princeton are ultra-elitist, and really play that up; Yale to a lesser extent. Dartmouth is a rural LAC with a huge Greek system, and Cornell is as big as a state school and very pre-professional. Of course half of HYP kids end up at soul-killing lucrative jobs in finance and consulting; there's a ton of peer pressure to do that sort of thing. Brown seems elite but not elitist, and far fewer students feel forced into finance, cs, consulting and so on. Above all, it just seems like a school that knows what it is and is comfortable being what it is: it is not trying to be Harvard or Princeton, and it doesn't play up its status as an Ivy league institution. The kids seem happy and love being there. Only Yale seems to have a little bit of the same feel, though it is more exclusive and elitist.

My DD chose Brown over Yale last year for these reasons. She loves it and knows she made the right choice.

Sounds awfully self-serving since the “reasons” are neither compelling nor well articulated. Few students would turn down Yale for Brown.

DP. Those who prefer Brown to Yale don't apply to Yale, whereas those who prefer Yale to Brown apply to both.

You Ivy obsessed people are so beyond weird and in your case-- rigid. There are plenty of kids who don't follow your rules.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Brown just seems cooler than most of the other Ivies (my unhooked kid was accepted ED). Penn is huge, full of strivers, and at the admissions visit they described the school as a "mid-sized Ivy League school" 15x. Harvard and Princeton are ultra-elitist, and really play that up; Yale to a lesser extent. Dartmouth is a rural LAC with a huge Greek system, and Cornell is as big as a state school and very pre-professional. Of course half of HYP kids end up at soul-killing lucrative jobs in finance and consulting; there's a ton of peer pressure to do that sort of thing. Brown seems elite but not elitist, and far fewer students feel forced into finance, cs, consulting and so on. Above all, it just seems like a school that knows what it is and is comfortable being what it is: it is not trying to be Harvard or Princeton, and it doesn't play up its status as an Ivy league institution. The kids seem happy and love being there. Only Yale seems to have a little bit of the same feel, though it is more exclusive and elitist.

My DD chose Brown over Yale last year for these reasons. She loves it and knows she made the right choice.

Sounds awfully self-serving since the “reasons” are neither compelling nor well articulated. Few students would turn down Yale for Brown.

More students would go to Yale but it's not crazy to like Brown (or another school like that) more.