Biden commutes all but 3 federal death sentences

[Anonymous]

I just hate this. I am anti death penalty but if he was truly anti death penalty, he’d commute all of them. Why decide that the terrorists are worse. They all took life. Biden is not rational or principled. He just needs to sit in his chair and go to sleep intil January 20. He is worse every single day. And some of these families do probably feel better knowing that these monsters may one day be executed and Biden just took that away. I am beside myself that he pardoned the cash for kids and so many awful people and this is just bad. Go away. Please.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This X thread has summaries of all the prisoners whose sentences were commuted.

None of those is as vile and depraved as trump.

So you think a guy that rapes 2 young girls to death isn't as vile as trump?
This is why people think you are the bad guys.

1. kidnap/murder/torture
2. carjacking, arson, 2 counts of murder
3. double homicide and the rape of a 12 year old
4. rape and murder
5. murder of postmistress and theft of mail
6. murder of a cellmate
7. murder of a cellmate
8. double homicide, bank robbery
9. white supremacist murder black man while in prison.
10. contract killing of a woman who filed a complaint against a cop.
11. prison murder of a snitch.
12. double homicide theft.
13. serial rape, kidnap, and there is still a 1 year old baby missing.
14. murder of 2 corrections officers to get the keys to the cell of another inmate, who they also murdered.
15. murder a mother and leaving the baby alone with the dead mom.
16. prison murder
17. murder, bank robbery
18. kidnap, rape, murder
19. multiple kidnap/murder.
20. bank robbery, murder
21. medicare fraud, murder
22. high level crack dealers
23. crack kingpin
24. murder for hire
25. murdering a family including a 3 year old and 4 year old
26. double homicide including a 12 year old
27. arson, killing a federal witness along with 5 other people.
28. burglary, kidnap murder
29. raping 2 little girls to death and raping a woman to death

Some of these involve multiple defendants (especially the prison murders tend to involve teamwork).

NP. When you say "This is why people think you are the bad guys.", who are you referring to specifically? I hope you mean internet trolls, specifically, because if it is a generalization about libs or Dems, you need to get off your soap box. That kind of demonization of a whole group of people makes you a bad guy. And part of the problem with this country right now.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I am a conservative who WAS against the death penalty until I represented the families of murder victims. I still get uncomfortable with States taking lives. With that, Biden should have a day where all these victim families get to line up and tell them about their suffering. He will forget it the next day, but will be catharsis for the victims.

I have a family member who was murdered and I can tell you that the death penalty brings no closure. In our case the verdict was life without the possibility of parole. To me, this is a far worse than the death penalty. Two young men were looking at 50-60 years of their life with no hope of freedom. This also eliminates the 20 years of countless appeals before the death sentence is carried out.

Once they eliminate the death penalty they will come next for life with no parole, how cruel it is.

No. There are some people who just don't belong in society. I don't believe in the state-sponsored murder, but there has to be life with no parole in its place.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am a conservative who WAS against the death penalty until I represented the families of murder victims. I still get uncomfortable with States taking lives. With that, Biden should have a day where all these victim families get to line up and tell them about their suffering. He will forget it the next day, but will be catharsis for the victims.

I have a family member who was murdered and I can tell you that the death penalty brings no closure. In our case the verdict was life without the possibility of parole. To me, this is a far worse than the death penalty. Two young men were looking at 50-60 years of their life with no hope of freedom. This also eliminates the 20 years of countless appeals before the death sentence is carried out.

Once they eliminate the death penalty they will come next for life with no parole, how cruel it is.

No. There are some people who just don't belong in society. I don't believe in the state-sponsored murder, but there has to be life with no parole in its place.

I dunno. In France the guy who let people rape his drugged wife hundreds of times only got 20 years because that it the max for rape. It didn’t matter that he did it hundreds of time. She was raped hundreds of times and it was orchestrated by her husband but he got 20 years. Soft on crime people don’t see things from the perspective of the victim. They are on the team of the victim. Or society for that matter.

[Anonymous]

Pp. meant to say they are not on the team of the victim.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I just hate this. I am anti death penalty but if he was truly anti death penalty, he’d commute all of them. Why decide that the terrorists are worse. They all took life. Biden is not rational or principled. He just needs to sit in his chair and go to sleep intil January 20. He is worse every single day. And some of these families do probably feel better knowing that these monsters may one day be executed and Biden just took that away. I am beside myself that he pardoned the cash for kids and so many awful people and this is just bad. Go away. Please.

Agree. Same. I find these horrible.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This X thread has summaries of all the prisoners whose sentences were commuted.

None of those is as vile and depraved as trump.

So you think a guy that rapes 2 young girls to death isn't as vile as trump?
This is why people think you are the bad guys.

1. kidnap/murder/torture
2. carjacking, arson, 2 counts of murder
3. double homicide and the rape of a 12 year old
4. rape and murder
5. murder of postmistress and theft of mail
6. murder of a cellmate
7. murder of a cellmate
8. double homicide, bank robbery
9. white supremacist murder black man while in prison.
10. contract killing of a woman who filed a complaint against a cop.
11. prison murder of a snitch.
12. double homicide theft.
13. serial rape, kidnap, and there is still a 1 year old baby missing.
14. murder of 2 corrections officers to get the keys to the cell of another inmate, who they also murdered.
15. murder a mother and leaving the baby alone with the dead mom.
16. prison murder
17. murder, bank robbery
18. kidnap, rape, murder
19. multiple kidnap/murder.
20. bank robbery, murder
21. medicare fraud, murder
22. high level crack dealers
23. crack kingpin
24. murder for hire
25. murdering a family including a 3 year old and 4 year old
26. double homicide including a 12 year old
27. arson, killing a federal witness along with 5 other people.
28. burglary, kidnap murder
29. raping 2 little girls to death and raping a woman to death

Some of these involve multiple defendants (especially the prison murders tend to involve teamwork).

NP. When you say "This is why people think you are the bad guys.", who are you referring to specifically? I hope you mean internet trolls, specifically, because if it is a generalization about libs or Dems, you need to get off your soap box. That kind of demonization of a whole group of people makes you a bad guy. And part of the problem with this country right now.

Pot, meet kettle.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am a conservative who WAS against the death penalty until I represented the families of murder victims. I still get uncomfortable with States taking lives. With that, Biden should have a day where all these victim families get to line up and tell them about their suffering. He will forget it the next day, but will be catharsis for the victims.

I have a family member who was murdered and I can tell you that the death penalty brings no closure. In our case the verdict was life without the possibility of parole. To me, this is a far worse than the death penalty. Two young men were looking at 50-60 years of their life with no hope of freedom. This also eliminates the 20 years of countless appeals before the death sentence is carried out.

Once they eliminate the death penalty they will come next for life with no parole, how cruel it is.

No. There are some people who just don't belong in society. I don't believe in the state-sponsored murder, but there has to be life with no parole in its place.

PP is right. We saw this exact pattern play out on Western Europe where now it’s not uncommon to see murderers released on 8-10 years.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I fail to follow the logic of Biden's actions. Either commute all, or commute none. Every single one of the death row inmates has committed awful crimes that devastated families and communities. They were all spared except for the three that are officially "terrorists." But the Biden definition of what is a terrorist is unclear. Luigi is a terrorist for shooting a CEO and the government is pursuing the death penalty for him. But the foreigner who snuck across the border and burned a woman alive on a NY subway is not a terrorist. It seems the terrorism designation is applied whimsically. That Biden is saving all these horrendous men while remaining committed to executing Luigi is interesting to say the least.

If you just kill women, it’s not terrorizing.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Again , I have no prob with ridding death sentence IF as a concept it is applicable as a law for all criminals. What I find infuriating, unforgivable, hypercritical and downright ridiculous is that Biden played God to decide who gets mercy and who doesn't. That is unethical, unlawful per current statutes and totally shameful.

This is what's wrong with the entire administration and why they lost the a presidency, Senate and House. They are totally illogical, ridiculous and just dumb assets in general.

Well SCOTUS said the POTUS is GOD.

We all know that they did not.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Biden probably just saved about $1 billion in legal expenses for the federal government.

When will DOGE send a congratulatory tweet?

He could have just executed them and saved the money - now we have to pay for their care and medical treatment for life.

So no.

Life sentences are cheaper than death penalty cases which cost a ton of money for prosecutors and federal public defenders.
https://www.amnestyusa.org/issues/death-penalty/death-penalty-facts/death-penalty-cost/#:~:text=Recent%20Cost%20Studies&text=In%20Tennessee%2C%20death%20penalty%20trials,which%20prosecutors%20seek%20life%20imprisonment.&text=In%20Maryland%20death%20penalty%20cases,million%20for%20a%20single%20case.

I didn’t say let them linger in jail, I said execute. And I don’t think the money part of it should even be a concern here.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Our closest neighbors, Canada and Mexico, do not have a death penalty. The only country in Europe that has a death penalty is Belarus. I. 2023, the countries with the highest number of executions were:

Iran
With at least 853 executions, Iran accounted for 74% of the world's recorded executions.

Saudi Arabia
With 172 executions, Saudi Arabia accounted for 15% of the world's recorded executions.

Somalia
With at least 38 executions, Somalia accounted for more than tripling the number of executions in sub-Saharan Africa.

United States
With 24 executions, the United States had the sixth highest number of executions.

Iraq
With at least 16 executions

Is that the company you want to be in?

Don’t care about the company. I believe in the death penalty like the majority of Americans and our their opinion that matters.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Is this the thread where “conservative Christians” pretend to be Pro Life?

I believe in the sanctity of life and the appropriateness of the death penalty in specific circumstances as authorized in the Bible. Thanks for your faux concern.

That's the Old Testament. Typical bible thumping hypocrites, picking and choosing which passages to follow, and which ones to discard to fit their means.

I am not catholic and do not share your views on the death penalty. I am not a hypocrite. When was the last time you went to church?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Is this the thread where “conservative Christians” pretend to be Pro Life?

Is this the comment where the poster equilibrates the life of an unborn child and a ruthless, convicted terrorist?

"All lives matter"

Which is why I support the death penalty. Someone who murders should have the ultimate penalty.

Sure, as long as you can ensure 100% of the time that the decision was made accurately and without a trace of bias.

PP and I agree. And I wouldn’t have had an issue with Biden’s use of a pardon if he had had particular concerns with one of the cases. But I have a major problem with him commuting cases categorically because he is a catholic who doesn’t believe in the death penalty. He said he would uphold the laws and he isn’t.

Which laws are he not upholding. The law actually allows him to commute death sentences, so he is not violating any laws. He is actually following the laws granted to him by congress.

On a case by case basis. That is the appropriate use of a pardon. Not a blanket commutation because you don’t like the law. Biden’s legacy is tarnished from this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:Is this the thread where “conservative Christians” pretend to be Pro Life?

I believe in the sanctity of life and the appropriateness of the death penalty in specific circumstances as authorized in the Bible. Thanks for your faux concern.

The Bible says a lot of stupid shit, and contradicts itself on capital punishment numerous times.

Who cares if you believe in it or not? I don’t. But don’t attempt to tell practicing Christians what their own theology is.