S/o: Do you support murdering CEOs ?

[Anonymous]

No, but I also have a hard time feeling bad for them either.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I think it's wrong for anyone to murder or your torture as a blanket statement.

However I'd ask the question back: is the healthcare insurance industry specifically right in denying 33% of all claims based on a system (AI) that is statistically proven wrong awhile innocents have died and/or suffered immensely? If so, why have they been able to continue without reprimand?

We just SAW what a “reprimand” looks like.


If things don’t start to change, there will be additional such reprimands. It’s up to the industry now. Ball is in their court.

So you believe in fairytale?

Because that's pretty much what that idea is, even with additional "reprimands."

You can't shoot a corporation and really there is no need for them to have their CEOs based in the U.S.

[Anonymous]

No. In no way do I support the murdering of CEOs.

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Anonymous wrote:Of course not. The killer will rightfully spend the rest of his life in prison.

We do not solve problems with guns. The gun culture in this country is insane.

You also blame cars for drunk drivers, right?

No but we have licensing requirements and DUI checkpoints and traffic courts and mandatory insurance coverage, etc. for cars. That would be a start with guns.

There are more than 20,000 federal, state and local gun laws already on the books in this country. I think there’s already plenty of laws. And your president just pardoned his own crack-addled son for violating several federal gun laws. So spare us the “we need more laws crap. You won’t even enforce the thousands of laws already in place, but you want more? Hell no. Go away.

Your future president is a rapist and a thief.

[Anonymous]

No but they kind deserve this.

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Anonymous wrote:Change the question.

Why do you support CEOs killing people every day with their business decisions? Just because it is legal?

How much suffering did wall street bankers impose in the country after 2008 that require us all to collectively bail them out? How much suffering do healthcare exec inflict in thousands of people per day? When the high and nightly inflict suffering they are never punished for their crimes. They are rewarded for it with taxpayer bailouts, higher stock prices, and bigger paychecks.

You're asking the wrong question. Why do you support CEO malfeasance?

Sure ask thst question

Fight for real change which will not happen just by killing a CEO. Only stupid people think that way.

For large organizations, these guys are just as interchangeable. I'm sure there is an acting CEO who took over that guys work.

But this is un-American. Everyone is entitled to a trial by a jury of their peers

Maybe that doesn't matter anymore in this new America

So how do you suppose we change things then? American citizens cannot change the govt because citizens United has given unlimited buying and lobbying power to corporations and special interest groups to corrupt our government. The institutions that are supposed to regulate these businesses have also been captured.

So please tell us all how we are supposed to change this corporate oppression when we can't democratically elect officials to change laws since they're all bought by corporations or are blocked from doing so because of citizens United.

You can’t murder people either to get your way. Back to the drawing board

And yet murdering entire classrooms of 7 year olds also doesn't change anything because of corporate and special interest lobbying.

Just bend over and take it, whether it is from uncontrollable gun violence to healthcare CEOs milling people en masse.

Come up with a new idea since all the others aren’t working. It’s not up to others to solve your problems. Be the change.

? It actually IS up to the people we elect to solve our problems. Otherwise, why are we electing them? And there ARE ideas right now in Congress. There is just no political will to make it happen.

https://www.congress.gov/bill/118th-congress/house-bill/3421

Stop electing the same people over and over again expecting change.

Amen

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Anonymous wrote:Serious question. I have to ask, now that the CEO murder in Manhattan thread has exceeded 200 pages, plus

- Professor Zenkus at Colombia has publicly celebrated the murder;

https://www.wnct.com/news/national/killing-of-unitedhealthcare-ceo-uncorks-anger-at-insurance-industry/


And WaPo columnist Taylor Lorenz said the murder “feels like victory.”

https://www.rawstory.com/piers-morgan-2670403712/

I am shocked at these views. So I have to ask the obvious here:

- do you support murdering CEOs, as others apparently do?

Absolutely not - that is extremist.

However I do support policies and laws that require:
- corporate transparency
- removing loop holes for avoiding corporate taxes
- reform of corporate boards to maintain accountability to shareholders and customers such as CEOs not being granted outrageously inflated salaries that are not performance based or commiserate with value brought by CEOs/ CFOs and senior management
- effective antitrust enforcement to prevent anti competitive business practices that harm smaller competitors who hire half of American workers (eg Aetna-CVS driving thousands of smaller independent pharmacies out of business by pricing drug reimbursements to competitors at much lower rates).

Corporate reforms -/ especially of the health insurance sector that has non medical people making medical decisions — are what is needed. Not random vigilantism.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There is a French revolution "eat the rich" political undertone on both the left and the right. The left quashed the populist Bernie wave... for a little while. Now it's coming out as MAGA.

It's the result of people feeling like the system is rigged against them and it needs a democratic escape vent or people turn to pitchforks and guillotines. This is a dangerous time when a person, say a CEO, can be dehumanized and seen as a symbol of what is wrong with the system.

No, I do not support murdering CEOs. They are people with families and made their way through the system like everyone else.

MAGAs want to eat the rich but they venerate actual billionaires. Make it make sense.

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This is about where I'm at. Not supporting or celebrating, but I get it and would say I'm pretty apathetic about it? We are a country who doesn't care when a bunch of kindergarteners are slaughtered, we've accepted that as a culturally normal and acceptable thing, so with that barometer in mind I don't get misty eyed when some shithead who contributed to so much illness and death is taken out. Would I encourage it? No. Do it myself? Obviously not. But could I get over it if this murderer had taken off to Thailand and we never found him? Ehhh yes.

This. Same.

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This is about where I'm at. Not supporting or celebrating, but I get it and would say I'm pretty apathetic about it? We are a country who doesn't care when a bunch of kindergarteners are slaughtered, we've accepted that as a culturally normal and acceptable thing, so with that barometer in mind I don't get misty eyed when some shithead who contributed to so much illness and death is taken out. Would I encourage it? No. Do it myself? Obviously not. But could I get over it if this murderer had taken off to Thailand and we never found him? Ehhh yes.

This. Same.

I'd never admit this in real life or even on social media with my name and reputation attached. But same.

[Anonymous]

Sometimes violence is needed. It is uncomfortable, but it is true. Always has been, will ever be. The looming specter of violence is what underwrites periods of stability. It is always lurking in the background and, occasionally, we get a reminder of that which safeguards our comfort.

[Anonymous]

No.
This was not rich vs poor. Had nothing to do with being rich.

The CEO was evil, no question about that. Doesn't justify murder. But the fact remain that CEO and his company are immoral, dangerous, evil, and have blood on their hands as well.

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Yes.

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Anonymous wrote:No.
This was not rich vs poor. Had nothing to do with being rich.

The CEO was evil, no question about that. Doesn't justify murder. But the fact remain that CEO and his company are immoral, dangerous, evil, and have blood on their hands as well.

Sounds like a moral justification of his actions could be made then. Most people would just never have the gumption to follow through.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:No.
This was not rich vs poor. Had nothing to do with being rich.

The CEO was evil, no question about that. Doesn't justify murder. But the fact remain that CEO and his company are immoral, dangerous, evil, and have blood on their hands as well.

I don't suppose there was any connection between how rich Brian Thompson was and how evil he was?