S/o: Do you support murdering CEOs ?

[Anonymous]

He was radicalized by pain. I believe it. I read somewhere that he couldn’t have a normal sexual life due to his back pain. That’s a lot of frustration and nowhere to put it.

[Anonymous]

JC why don't we just put the criminal CEOs in jail? Why do we have to jump to murder? I don't want to live in a super violent society where we shoot bad people on the street. This is why I am glad I don't live in the Wild West or Revolutionary France. I will also note that this kind of political violence has a tendency to create a lot of collateral damage and the mob (shockingly) does not always get the right person. So yes I would instead like a criminal justice system thanks.

[Anonymous]

In the case of this CEO, yes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Slaughtering families in Korea, Germany, Vietnam, Middle East, Libya, Ukraine and Russia = good!

Yet Josh Shapiro joined the IDF to kill Palestinians for their land??

LOLZ Shapiro should just shut it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:He was radicalized by pain. I believe it. I read somewhere that he couldn’t have a normal sexual life due to his back pain. That’s a lot of frustration and nowhere to put it.

Radicalized by back pain. Oh, to be a man.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The links you provided show no examples of “celebrating”. Let me ask you this - do you think these ceos celebrate deaths they caused to get that yearly bonus? Stop twisting things to fit your narrative. Nobody sane celebrates deaths but there’s plenty of cruelty to go around.

No “celebrate” ??

Ok, well Governor Josh Shapiro has characterized the response as “celebrating,” while you, PP, some internet rando idiot, challenges my use of the word “celebrating.”

I think I’m going to go with Governor Shapiro over you, dumbass.

Not PP, but geez get some help for your anger before you end up hurting someone. Hopefully you have insurance coverage or can afford it, unlike the many struggling people who don’t get it covered by insurance.

[Anonymous]

When CEOs significantly harm the public, it is legal:

https://www.wsj.com/health/healthcare/medicare-health-insurance-diagnosis-payments-b4d99a5d

Guess how many CEOs will see jail time? Zero.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:He was radicalized by pain. I believe it. I read somewhere that he couldn’t have a normal sexual life due to his back pain. That’s a lot of frustration and nowhere to put it.

Radicalized by back pain. Oh, to be a man.

'My life got difficult, if I kill someone it will get better.'

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Of course not. The killer will rightfully spend the rest of his life in prison.

We do not solve problems with guns. The gun culture in this country is insane.

You also blame cars for drunk drivers, right?

No but we have licensing requirements and DUI checkpoints and traffic courts and mandatory insurance coverage, etc. for cars. That would be a start with guns.

There are more than 20,000 federal, state and local gun laws already on the books in this country. I think there’s already plenty of laws. And your president just pardoned his own crack-addled son for violating several federal gun laws. So spare us the “we need more laws crap. You won’t even enforce the thousands of laws already in place, but you want more? Hell no. Go away.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:A criminal who associated with sketchy people, engaged in criminal acts, and was responsible for harm to other people was gunned down in the streets of New York.

But it was a rich white man, so everyone mourns. Had he been a poor black or brown man, everyone would have shrugged their shoulders and gone “well what do you expect?”

The people upset over this murder weren’t the same ones upset over George Floyd. With Floyd, they said “he was a bad guy with a record, who cares”.

If somebody truly hates all murder and is equally vocal about murder of ALL people - poor people, women (especially women of color), BIPOC, etc - then I have no problem with them also being vocal about this murder.

But I doubt many people are. I just don’t see the Venn diagram of “people upset over rich CEO deaths” and “people upset over black men killed by police” having much overlap.

As my BIPOC H said: “I just can’t get worked up over rich white men killing each other”.

Injecting race into every single thread is so boring, and so last year. People have moved on, so should you. And when you do, look around and realize that nobody is mourning this rich white guy. That’s the point of the thread. Get it?

Eh. Take race out of it, then. A white guy in a trailer park in West Virginia who is a known criminal and screwed many people over pisses off the wrong person and gets shot.

Nobody would care. They’d say he had it coming.

BINGO!


Excellent analogy.


All this goes back to my contention from last week when the initial outrage here started: DCUM identifies with the dead CEO. Or they aspired to be someone like him. Ironically, they also identify with the killer, too - private prep, Ivy Leaguer, wealthy family. But many people here saw that CEO getting capped from behind and thought to themselves “that might be ME”…(if I ever get rich enough). They relate to the dead guy. He’s what they’re striving to be.


Some scumbag dope dealer in WV? They wouldn’t give the slightest F’. As you said, they’d say he got what he had coming.



Well, so did the CEO.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:He was radicalized by pain. I believe it. I read somewhere that he couldn’t have a normal sexual life due to his back pain. That’s a lot of frustration and nowhere to put it.

Radicalized by back pain. Oh, to be a man.

[Anonymous]

Now look, certainly none of us condone murder, unless it is funny or cool.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Serious question. I have to ask, now that the CEO murder in Manhattan thread has exceeded 200 pages, plus

- Professor Zenkus at Colombia has publicly celebrated the murder;

https://www.wnct.com/news/national/killing-of-unitedhealthcare-ceo-uncorks-anger-at-insurance-industry/


And WaPo columnist Taylor Lorenz said the murder “feels like victory.”

https://www.rawstory.com/piers-morgan-2670403712/

I am shocked at these views. So I have to ask the obvious here:

- do you support murdering CEOs, as others apparently do?

Absolutely not - that is extremist.

However I do support policies and laws that require:
- corporate transparency
- removing loop holes for avoiding corporate taxes
- reform of corporate boards to maintain accountability to shareholders and customers such as CEOs not being granted outrageously inflated salaries that are not performance based or commiserate with value brought by CEOs/ CFOs and senior management
- effective antitrust enforcement to prevent anti competitive business practices that harm smaller competitors who hire half of American workers (eg Aetna-CVS driving thousands of smaller independent pharmacies out of business by pricing drug reimbursements to competitors at much lower rates).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think it's wrong for anyone to murder or your torture as a blanket statement.

However I'd ask the question back: is the healthcare insurance industry specifically right in denying 33% of all claims based on a system (AI) that is statistically proven wrong awhile innocents have died and/or suffered immensely? If so, why have they been able to continue without reprimand?

We just SAW what a “reprimand” looks like.


If things don’t start to change, there will be additional such reprimands. It’s up to the industry now. Ball is in their court.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think it's wrong for anyone to murder or your torture as a blanket statement.

However I'd ask the question back: is the healthcare insurance industry specifically right in denying 33% of all claims based on a system (AI) that is statistically proven wrong awhile innocents have died and/or suffered immensely? If so, why have they been able to continue without reprimand?

We just SAW what a “reprimand” looks like.


If things don’t start to change, there will be additional such reprimands. It’s up to the industry now. Ball is in their court.

Bolded, exactly.