UVA admits only.

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Anonymous wrote:People get in without mid 1500s

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No. Before TO, the 75th was 1490. It will go back to that instantly if they go back to test required as many think they will in January. We have a friend who is there now and had a 1490 and submitted it. Unhooked.

No it won't because before Test Optional UVA received only 25,000 applications a year. Many parents who lost jobs and/or finances were gutted started looking seriously at state tmscgools. Today UVA receives 60,000 applications and the statistics and ECs are amazing. Same with the international applicants who do not apply TO. State schools are going to continue to look
more and more attractive as colleges pass $95k a year (USC). That means more competition from top students who used to go to Ivies and top SLACs

The number of applicants will drop because people applying TO because they have SAT scores in the 1300s will not apply. The reason for the huge application numbers is because kids think they have a chance with their grade inflated 4.0 GPAs if they don’t have to submit the pesky 1300 SAT.

The same can be said for many competitive schools.

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Anonymous wrote:Exactly. So many of these kids have no business applying

Why wouldn’t they apply if they have a high GPA when UVA doesn’t require test scores? If UVA thinks test scores are important, they will start requiring them. For now, those 1200-1250 SAT kids have a great chance to get in TO and we actually know quite a few that have been admitted in the last 3 years!

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Does he have APs in all core classes or just in science/math? Your post is unclear and that’s a big difference.

All core classes.

including world language? UVA consuders WL a core subject

Mo he stopped after 3 years of a foreign language; so a minus point one I assume now.

This will rile folks up but kids do get in without AP foreign language, one being our kid last year (engineering school).

Yes but those applicants are usually hard core science types whose stats and resume reflect that. These same students are also excused from the University's own foreign language requirement. The AOs are very clear in wanting to see high school students exhaust the curriculum their high school offered (rigor) whuch includes WL. Same for most
of the T25.

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Anonymous wrote:Pp. I just googled. They got 41,000 applications in 2019.

The year my kid applied (2016) it was only 32,000. He was the class who didn't get to walk the lawn due to covid.

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Anonymous wrote:Exactly. So many of these kids have no business applying

Why wouldn’t they apply if they have a high GPA when UVA doesn’t require test scores? If UVA thinks test scores are important, they will start requiring them. For now, those 1200-1250 SAT kids have a great chance to get in TO and we actually know quite a few that have been admitted in the last 3 years!

The board is meeting in Jan to discuss.

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Does he have APs in all core classes or just in science/math? Your post is unclear and that’s a big difference.

All core classes.

including world language? UVA consuders WL a core subject

Mo he stopped after 3 years of a foreign language; so a minus point one I assume now.

This will rile folks up but kids do get in without AP foreign language, one being our kid last year (engineering school).

Yes but those applicants are usually hard core science types whose stats and resume reflect that. These same students are also excused from the University's own foreign language requirement. The AOs are very clear in wanting to see high school students exhaust the curriculum their high school offered (rigor) whuch includes WL. Same for most
of the T25.

Ah but it’s my kid so I can say that they aren’t a hard core science type. Yes, AP bio, AP physics. But not a bunch of science ECs.
Yep we all get it - the recommendations. But folks deserve to know that there are exceptions. Not sure why some always want to make that black or white. Oh well!

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Anonymous wrote:Exactly. So many of these kids have no business applying

Why wouldn’t they apply if they have a high GPA when UVA doesn’t require test scores? If UVA thinks test scores are important, they will start requiring them. For now, those 1200-1250 SAT kids have a great chance to get in TO and we actually know quite a few that have been admitted in the last 3 years!

Because 71% of accepted students DID submit their scores. You significantly reduce your chances with test optional. Also, you need to have the support of your public high school counselor who submits their own LOC, checks off the "most rigorous" or less box, and works to get the high school faculty to out together the LOCs. Our high school advisor was blunt that our DD didn't have a shot at UVA. She was right. All it took was one look at the Naviance records of prior Lengley kids who had gotten in to see that. So, we put together a reasonable list of reaches, targets, safeties and saved the UVA application fee.

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^^ Remember also that your child is being compared to other UVA applicants in the same high school class. Kids can be cruel (and yes they all talk about this stuff). My DD would have been humiliated by the competition

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Anonymous wrote:Wish we had more college choices in this state.

We have more than most - talk to someone from Maryland

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Anonymous wrote:Are most admits captain/ leader of something? Is that a UVA admissions trait?

From our school, yes. There are so many clubs, sports and other activities to lead though! Definitely a wide variety of interests

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Anonymous wrote:Wish we had more college choices in this state.

You do. Virginia has a number of excellent choices.

+1. Also, WVU will let high-GPA students come for only $25k, all in, which is cheaper than UVA or Tech in-state.

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Anonymous wrote:Pp. I just googled. They got 41,000 applications in 2019.

The year my kid applied (2016) it was only 32,000. He was the class who didn't get to walk the lawn due to covid.

I don't even understand what the point of this x number applied x number of years ago. Between kids applying to more colleges, public school being more affordable, and test optional, more applied to UVA. Is it a surprise?

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I can’t get schev to work - what is average SAT or ACT for Oos for uva?

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Anonymous wrote:Exactly. So many of these kids have no business applying

Why wouldn’t they apply if they have a high GPA when UVA doesn’t require test scores? If UVA thinks test scores are important, they will start requiring them. For now, those 1200-1250 SAT kids have a great chance to get in TO and we actually know quite a few that have been admitted in the last 3 years!

Because 71% of accepted students DID submit their scores. You significantly reduce your chances with test optional. Also, you need to have the support of your public high school counselor who submits their own LOC, checks off the "most rigorous" or less box, and works to get the high school faculty to out together the LOCs. Our high school advisor was blunt that our DD didn't have a shot at UVA. She was right. All it took was one look at the Naviance records of prior Lengley kids who had gotten in to see that. So, we put together a reasonable list of reaches, targets, safeties and saved the UVA application fee.

Not sure 71% is right. According to SCHEV for 2024 admits, out of 3974, 1809 submitted SAT and 548 ACT. Thats 59%.

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Does he have APs in all core classes or just in science/math? Your post is unclear and that’s a big difference.

All core classes.

including world language? UVA consuders WL a core subject

Mo he stopped after 3 years of a foreign language; so a minus point one I assume now.

This will rile folks up but kids do get in without AP foreign language, one being our kid last year (engineering school).

Anecdotally kids do get in without it. No one's application is going to be perfect. But having AP world language can help soften another weakness the candidate might have. This is what they mean by "holistic."