Psyched! He's closing the Department of Education in Washignton DC

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:It's quite possible at lot of this slash-and-burn noise about doing away with entire departments is just for show. In practice, these efforts will be opposed via lawsuits brought by states and other entities. MAGA doesn't control every single judge in the country--yet.


That's why there's a collective breath holding. A lot can chipped away in 4 years. I'm gonna guess that Project 2025 wasn't for funsies and they've thought about implementation.
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Anonymous wrote:I think we will very soon learn that the only thing needed for education is a good teacher, chalk and a black board. Our education system isn't failing because it's not well funded enough. It's failing because these kids have way too many corporate backed distractions.


And we all know that Trump is planning on supporting teachers by increasing their pay and benefits, because that's how you get good teachers.

I can't even type that with a serious face.


Many of the good teachers have already quit or retired because of burnout due to chaos and enforcing woke policies. Many of the newer ones can't even write competently so they have no business grading essays. Arguing for blanket pay raises makes no sense. If you say that only good teachers should get paid more because this will incentivize more competent people to also become teachers, most people will be on board.


No, they retired because the pay is sh.t and because when they tried to tell parents their brats are not behaving, the parents berated the teachers. Talk about education at home. I can tell you in public without failure who is a MAGA voter by the way they act-whiny and entitled. And they pass it onto their kids.


Two things can be true at once, it can be parenting but it’s also the schools refusal to suspend students due to state and local policy. It has a broken windows effect. Everyone knows there are no consequences.
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Anonymous wrote:I’m a former Virginian and live in Lenexa, KS - a “red” state. Trust me, we’ll do just fine if we eliminated all payments to DC to get back back funding, but with certain strings attached.

This really shouldn’t even be a political thing. My great grandmother was educated in a log cabin with a slate and chalk tablet and sharing books. She read and studied insatiably and was very well educated.


This is the plan. The poor will have log cabin schools and the wealthy will have tutors from England.


I think you missed my point. Despite growing up before there was really any class warfare or distinction of “poor” and “rich”, she was extremely well educated in English, Latin, and German. And went onto become a teacher herself. She was probably better educated than most of today’s high school graduates.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I’m a former Virginian and live in Lenexa, KS - a “red” state. Trust me, we’ll do just fine if we eliminated all payments to DC to get back back funding, but with certain strings attached.

This really shouldn’t even be a political thing. My great grandmother was educated in a log cabin with a slate and chalk tablet and sharing books. She read and studied insatiably and was very well educated.


This is the plan. The poor will have log cabin schools and the wealthy will have tutors from England.


I think you missed my point. Despite growing up before there was really any class warfare or distinction of “poor” and “rich”, she was extremely well educated in English, Latin, and German. And went onto become a teacher herself. She was probably better educated than most of today’s high school graduates.


Your great grandmother living in the 1800s is your example of bootstraps? There is more to know now then there was in the late 19th and 20th centuries. Civilization has progressed. If she was “better educated” she would be clueless if dropped into AP bio, chem or physics these days.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Yeah he just announced prayer is coming back to all schools


citation please.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I’m a former Virginian and live in Lenexa, KS - a “red” state. Trust me, we’ll do just fine if we eliminated all payments to DC to get back back funding, but with certain strings attached.

This really shouldn’t even be a political thing. My great grandmother was educated in a log cabin with a slate and chalk tablet and sharing books. She read and studied insatiably and was very well educated.


This is the plan. The poor will have log cabin schools and the wealthy will have tutors from England.


I think you missed my point. Despite growing up before there was really any class warfare or distinction of “poor” and “rich”, she was extremely well educated in English, Latin, and German. And went onto become a teacher herself. She was probably better educated than most of today’s high school graduates.


I would be happy to have education reform. A lot of the problems that we see in schools now are from failed equity policies. That doesn’t mean we suddenly cut millions of dollars of funds to schools. If anything that will just put the districts into survival mode trying to keep up. They can barely keep up now.
Anonymous
Don't kid yourselves. This is all about monetizing public education. This will make it easier for for-profits organizations to establish "charter" schools on the public dime.
Anonymous
Trump doesn't wipe his ass without someone paying him. Follow the money.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Yeah he just announced prayer is coming back to all schools


citation please.


DP.

Religion:
"Trump's campaign has outlined a plan that features prayer in public schools, an expansion of parental rights in education, patriotism as a centerpiece of education and an emphasis on the "American Way of Life.""

Patriotism:
"Trump has also suggested that he would create a new credentialing body to certify teachers "who embrace patriotic values and support the American Way of Life" and reinstate his administration's 1776 Commission to align the teaching of history with the "values" of the founding of the United States -- though Agenda47 does not elaborate further on what such values are or define the criteria for embracing the "American Way of Life.""

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/dismantling-department-education-trumps-plan-schools-term/story?id=115579646
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Trump doesn't wipe his ass without someone paying him. Follow the money.


And anyone who couldn't have figured that out before they voted shouldn't get to vote, those fools. Musk will pay off his debt. Vance will be Vance who. It's Miller time. Fabulous, America simply fking fabulous.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:This whole thing is to get support for vouchers and charter schools off the ground when the disaster ensues. Is he going to give the title I money back to the states also or have make do with the local taxes?


Don’t care. Let the red states cover their own Title 1 costs. My blue state can do that and then a lot if they are propping up red state money pits. For what? States ranked 40-50 in education. Let the taker states figure it out.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I think we will very soon learn that the only thing needed for education is a good teacher, chalk and a black board. Our education system isn't failing because it's not well funded enough. It's failing because these kids have way too many corporate backed distractions.


No, it's failing because 50% of a class has an ADHD or autism diagnosis with accommodations that require many resources and the other 50% are ESOL kids with parents at home who don't care if their kids learn English as long as they are in school and not needing daycare for 8 hours a day.

If I still had kids at home, there's no way I'd allow them in public school. The minority of kids, those kids without accommodations, are severely disadvantaged and cannot fairly compete with the kids with accommodations, like extra test time.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:So no more special education, no more FAFSA, no more Pell Grants.

I guess the goal is to keep everyone stupid and poor.


No just re route to other agencies


We can’t have students learning about *actual* history that’s not the American way.
I just read a quote where he said critical race theory or talk of stolen land means he’ll pull funding from that school.
Nothing about how crucial that is even if it needs to be tweaked—because without that, that’s how you have someone like him come to power.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Yeah he just announced prayer is coming back to all schools


citation please.


DP.

Religion:
"Trump's campaign has outlined a plan that features prayer in public schools, an expansion of parental rights in education, patriotism as a centerpiece of education and an emphasis on the "American Way of Life.""

Patriotism:
"Trump has also suggested that he would create a new credentialing body to certify teachers "who embrace patriotic values and support the American Way of Life" and reinstate his administration's 1776 Commission to align the teaching of history with the "values" of the founding of the United States -- though Agenda47 does not elaborate further on what such values are or define the criteria for embracing the "American Way of Life.""

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/dismantling-department-education-trumps-plan-schools-term/story?id=115579646

That’s alarming.
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