Why did Arab majority Deerborn, Michigan go for Trump?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:what do Biden's "options" have to do with him glancing at pictires of starving Palestinian children / sniper victims and carelessly thrusting the photos back to the dr who took them and say why are you showing me these, ive already seen all this?


or repeating islamaphobic LIES that he SAW (he didnt see this b/c it doesnt exist) beheaded babies? There was plenty of horror and pain to see in the images of the october 7th but using the word beheading is just as bad as GW using the word 'crusade' and btw Harris had the Cheneys (!!!!!) campaigning.

Nothing would have changed. At all.

Biden repeatedly called himself a Zionist who cited meeting Golda Meir as a serious formative experience. He has been absolutely hawkish and at the furthest right on this position within the Democratic Party since the 1980s. This is public fact.

I find the posters, and I don’t know how many of them exist or their sex, but I’m guessing 2 “good liberal women” total, who repeatedly post their “sucks to be them, they want to die faster? Okay, I’ll be good with that” sentiment utterly chilling and repellant.

The "die faster" comments originated from a poster who was rationalizing their vote for Trump. Basically, they reasoned it will be more merciful for Gazans to die quickly under a Trump admin than to prolong the agony.

Irrelevant and overall a total lie. This has been a common post over the past year here from Democratic voters. Ask Jeff.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:what do Biden's "options" have to do with him glancing at pictires of starving Palestinian children / sniper victims and carelessly thrusting the photos back to the dr who took them and say why are you showing me these, ive already seen all this?


or repeating islamaphobic LIES that he SAW (he didnt see this b/c it doesnt exist) beheaded babies? There was plenty of horror and pain to see in the images of the october 7th but using the word beheading is just as bad as GW using the word 'crusade' and btw Harris had the Cheneys (!!!!!) campaigning.

Nothing would have changed. At all.

Biden repeatedly called himself a Zionist who cited meeting Golda Meir as a serious formative experience. He has been absolutely hawkish and at the furthest right on this position within the Democratic Party since the 1980s. This is public fact.

I find the posters, and I don’t know how many of them exist or their sex, but I’m guessing 2 “good liberal women” total, who repeatedly post their “sucks to be them, they want to die faster? Okay, I’ll be good with that” sentiment utterly chilling and repellant.

The "die faster" comments originated from a poster who was rationalizing their vote for Trump. Basically, they reasoned it will be more merciful for Gazans to die quickly under a Trump admin than to prolong the agony.

Irrelevant and overall a total lie. This has been a common post over the past year here from Democratic voters. Ask Jeff.

Here is the quote:


"If you must die, its best to die quickly. I dont think you understand teh psychological torture people have been under and how they yearn to end their sufferring., trump will end it faster. we just want it to stop and we are well aware that extermination is the only resolution. Biden/harris also support extermination or at least find it tolerable. Israel is the USA's most valuable ally- they could keep palestinian children in broithels as part of a sex tourism industry and we will still support them. Id rather the kids died, Allah is ever merciful and to Him is the final return."

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:We’re of Lebanese descent (some of us are Christian, some of us our Muslim). In my family, most of us voted for Stein. None of us expect Republicans to care about Arab lives, but I think most of us expect Democrats to care. Not voting for Harris was a punishment for the Democratic Party to show that Arab voices matter.

Why can’t OP and others grasp this? They seem determined to put some religious or misogynist spin on the issue. -upthread poster

Voting for Stein is a vote for Trump. This was cutting off their nose to spite their face. “Harris didn’t do enough for me personally, so I’ll vote for the guy who banned us?” WTH kind of logic is that?

The vote for stein did not hat it was intended to do. It got your attention. THAT represent me a victory of its own. Sorry, but you can’t treat your supporters like children who should be seen (to get votes) but not heard. This as the story of the election.

It really isn’t the story of the election. Either Trump or Harris was going to win. No party can win by catering to a small segment of the population that has a specific foreign policy demand. War sucks and what’s going on there is horrendous but all they did was throw a temper tantrum and ultimately hurt themselves, their current country, and millions of Americans.

lol do you mean Jews or Arabs?

[Anonymous]

I think interests of Michigan Arabs aligns better with liberal democrats but their ideology aligns better with conservative republicans. ~ Muslim myself but not a fan of voting as a collective

[Anonymous]

Dearborn is pretty culturally conservative. It's a mistake for Democrats to think they are going to get them just because. I think Arab-Americans are feeling pretty disillusioned and politically homeless. Not just because of Gaza. For lots of reasons.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We’re of Lebanese descent (some of us are Christian, some of us our Muslim). In my family, most of us voted for Stein. None of us expect Republicans to care about Arab lives, but I think most of us expect Democrats to care. Not voting for Harris was a punishment for the Democratic Party to show that Arab voices matter.

Why can’t OP and others grasp this? They seem determined to put some religious or misogynist spin on the issue. -upthread poster

Voting for Stein is a vote for Trump. This was cutting off their nose to spite their face. “Harris didn’t do enough for me personally, so I’ll vote for the guy who banned us?” WTH kind of logic is that?

The vote for stein did not hat it was intended to do. It got your attention. THAT represent me a victory of its own. Sorry, but you can’t treat your supporters like children who should be seen (to get votes) but not heard. This as the story of the election.

It really isn’t the story of the election. Either Trump or Harris was going to win. No party can win by catering to a small segment of the population that has a specific foreign policy demand. War sucks and what’s going on there is horrendous but all they did was throw a temper tantrum and ultimately hurt themselves, their current country, and millions of Americans.

lol do you mean Jews or Arabs?

DP - Jews mostly vote based on US issues like women's rights, and mostly Democrat.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Trump will let Netanyahu do whatever he wants. From now through the next four years, the blood of every dead Gazan child, the death of every innocent Lebanese, will be on the hands of Dearborn Muslims.

Tell me, how did the Biden administration constrain Netanyahu?

For the millionth time, Biden couldn't do much during an election season when the guy he was running against was even more pro-Zionist.

Weak excuses.

[Anonymous]

I wonder if Jesus was here and eligible to vote, would he vote for Trump or Harris?

[Anonymous]

To me, this thread is SO symptomatic of what is wrong with the liberal mindset.

Weeks before the election, people here were repeatedly told that the Arabs are turning away from Harris. The posters patiently, repeatedly explained the reasoning behind this position.

What was the response? You're stupid, you're racist, you're hurting America, you'll be deported, we know better what's good for you, you'll never vote again and a thousand renditions of the same BS. Anything but a smidgen of self-reflection to understand why Arabs don't want what you're selling and don't believe you. But no. You're perfect. It's all the Arabs' fault.

Well okay.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:what do Biden's "options" have to do with him glancing at pictires of starving Palestinian children / sniper victims and carelessly thrusting the photos back to the dr who took them and say why are you showing me these, ive already seen all this?


or repeating islamaphobic LIES that he SAW (he didnt see this b/c it doesnt exist) beheaded babies? There was plenty of horror and pain to see in the images of the october 7th but using the word beheading is just as bad as GW using the word 'crusade' and btw Harris had the Cheneys (!!!!!) campaigning.

Nothing would have changed. At all.

Biden repeatedly called himself a Zionist who cited meeting Golda Meir as a serious formative experience. He has been absolutely hawkish and at the furthest right on this position within the Democratic Party since the 1980s. This is public fact.

I find the posters, and I don’t know how many of them exist or their sex, but I’m guessing 2 “good liberal women” total, who repeatedly post their “sucks to be them, they want to die faster? Okay, I’ll be good with that” sentiment utterly chilling and repellant.

NP. Biden wasn't running for office and whatever he said or did is irrelevant. Did Kamala Harris ever refer to herself as a zionist? Did she ever have private phone calls and backroom deals with Netanyahu like Trump did or personally be responsible for giving Netanyahu everything he wanted from 2016-2020? No, she didn't. There's actual history of Trump giving Netanyahu and his agenda full support. Can't say the same for Harris though. She is not Biden. But I guess you're going to find out the hard way now, of how Trump is not going to help Gazans, Lebanese, or Ukrainians. Probably wouldn't lift a finger to stop Taiwanese from being slaughtered, either.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:To me, this thread is SO symptomatic of what is wrong with the liberal mindset.

Weeks before the election, people here were repeatedly told that the Arabs are turning away from Harris. The posters patiently, repeatedly explained the reasoning behind this position.

What was the response? You're stupid, you're racist, you're hurting America, you'll be deported, we know better what's good for you, you'll never vote again and a thousand renditions of the same BS. Anything but a smidgen of self-reflection to understand why Arabs don't want what you're selling and don't believe you. But no. You're perfect. It's all the Arabs' fault.

Well okay.

You're right and that's why we are saying ok. You got what you wanted, congratulations. It's called acceptance.

[Anonymous]

No one wanted what the Dems were selling. They got way too crazy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:No one wanted what the Dems were selling. They got way too crazy.

True dat. People in Dearborn wanted what Trump was selling.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:what do Biden's "options" have to do with him glancing at pictires of starving Palestinian children / sniper victims and carelessly thrusting the photos back to the dr who took them and say why are you showing me these, ive already seen all this?


or repeating islamaphobic LIES that he SAW (he didnt see this b/c it doesnt exist) beheaded babies? There was plenty of horror and pain to see in the images of the october 7th but using the word beheading is just as bad as GW using the word 'crusade' and btw Harris had the Cheneys (!!!!!) campaigning.

Nothing would have changed. At all.

Biden repeatedly called himself a Zionist who cited meeting Golda Meir as a serious formative experience. He has been absolutely hawkish and at the furthest right on this position within the Democratic Party since the 1980s. This is public fact.

I find the posters, and I don’t know how many of them exist or their sex, but I’m guessing 2 “good liberal women” total, who repeatedly post their “sucks to be them, they want to die faster? Okay, I’ll be good with that” sentiment utterly chilling and repellant.

NP. Biden wasn't running for office and whatever he said or did is irrelevant. Did Kamala Harris ever refer to herself as a zionist? Did she ever have private phone calls and backroom deals with Netanyahu like Trump did or personally be responsible for giving Netanyahu everything he wanted from 2016-2020? No, she didn't. There's actual history of Trump giving Netanyahu and his agenda full support. Can't say the same for Harris though. She is not Biden. But I guess you're going to find out the hard way now, of how Trump is not going to help Gazans, Lebanese, or Ukrainians. Probably wouldn't lift a finger to stop Taiwanese from being slaughtered, either.

Did you miss the part where Harris said she wouldn't do a thing differently from Biden?

Did you miss the part where she wouldn't let a Palestinian speak at the gathering or the part where she declined to meet with Arab Americans?

Okay.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:what do Biden's "options" have to do with him glancing at pictires of starving Palestinian children / sniper victims and carelessly thrusting the photos back to the dr who took them and say why are you showing me these, ive already seen all this?


or repeating islamaphobic LIES that he SAW (he didnt see this b/c it doesnt exist) beheaded babies? There was plenty of horror and pain to see in the images of the october 7th but using the word beheading is just as bad as GW using the word 'crusade' and btw Harris had the Cheneys (!!!!!) campaigning.

Nothing would have changed. At all.

Biden repeatedly called himself a Zionist who cited meeting Golda Meir as a serious formative experience. He has been absolutely hawkish and at the furthest right on this position within the Democratic Party since the 1980s. This is public fact.

I find the posters, and I don’t know how many of them exist or their sex, but I’m guessing 2 “good liberal women” total, who repeatedly post their “sucks to be them, they want to die faster? Okay, I’ll be good with that” sentiment utterly chilling and repellant.

NP. Biden wasn't running for office and whatever he said or did is irrelevant. Did Kamala Harris ever refer to herself as a zionist? Did she ever have private phone calls and backroom deals with Netanyahu like Trump did or personally be responsible for giving Netanyahu everything he wanted from 2016-2020? No, she didn't. There's actual history of Trump giving Netanyahu and his agenda full support. Can't say the same for Harris though. She is not Biden. But I guess you're going to find out the hard way now, of how Trump is not going to help Gazans, Lebanese, or Ukrainians. Probably wouldn't lift a finger to stop Taiwanese from being slaughtered, either.

And the Democrats just found out that spitting on Arabs was not a winning strategy.