Teacher trainee?

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Anonymous wrote:It's our area's way of "fully staffing" schools with folks who have no training.

1. One wonders why we have to come up with creative ways to fill teacher vacancies - could be that teachers have to deal with the condescension, disrespect, and know-it-all attitude of parents in "our area" - cause-effect of the need to "fully staff" our schools.
2. "The folks who have no training" are carefully vetted by FCPS - they are long term subs, IAs, parents who have put their children through the system and have volunteered during that time, professionals transitioning for various reasons, including those looking for something meaningful to do with their time and, maybe, give back to their community...until they find out why there are those vacancies in the first place, and run for the exits!
3. Like the draft or jury duty, our country should introduce mandated teaching service in a public school for all of us to learn to respect our diligent, hardworking, sincere educators, entrusted with molding the foundation of the future of our country.

NP. The bolded perfectly describes my short-lived experience as a sub with FCPS. I had considered a career switch for some time and thought I might enjoy teaching. SO GLAD I decided to try subbing before going to all the time, trouble, and expense of becoming a teacher trainee and acquiring licensure, etc. What a hellish experience.

I took on an elementary school long-term sub role and regretted it within days. There was zero training, and I was expected to take on ALL of the responsibilities of a teacher - to include lesson planning, grading, parent/teacher conferences, classroom management (of a very unruly and poorly behaved class), etc. The few kids who actually wanted to be there were a delight, but the rest made it their mission to be as disruptive and disrespectful as possible. When I asked for help from admin, I literally got a shrug.

Needless to say, I absolutely ran for the exits after about a month there. Never again - but at least, now I know.

You proved my point that it is only once you are in a classroom juggling all the many duties of a homeroom teacher all day everyday, that one realizes the true worth of a teacher.

If a teacher's salary were to be doubled, society would begin to respect the amazing people who are entrusted with the foundation years of our children's future.

Instead, armchair critics heap insults on teachers and talk about how they have to reteach their kids - my foot! Put yourself in a teacher's shoes - teach 20-30 clones of your own all day, for a week - and you'll kiss the ground on which a teacher walks. #RespectTeachers
#MandateTeacherDuty

I really don't think the bolded is true. There are lots of high salary people that society doesn't respect.

Let me rephrase that: there aren't any other professions where you literally entrust your life to someone and the person is so underpaid and disrespected. Teachers are the pilots and surgeons of the classroom - in fact, they are also psychologists, scientists, mathematicians, journalists, historians, resident parent, commander-in-chief, all rolled in one. Yet the pay doesn't reflect the skill required to run the ship safely and smoothly everyday - this thread is a testament - hence the teacher exodus.

At the least, before/after contract hours parent conferences should be paid sessions.🤯Parents want to meet teachers before/after a teacher's full-day job, yet teachers don't get paid for that time. A teacher's time should be billable, like a lawyer's/therapist's, then there'll be a tidal shift in how society treats a teacher.👍

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Anonymous wrote:Would you trust a surgeon with no training to operate on their own? That’s what a teacher trainee is doing. He or she is teaching in a classroom alone with no training. He or she is expected to perform the work of a teacher without training. Why should we expect a teacher in this position to do as well as traditionally train teachers?

If all the surgeons quit because they were being paid like teachers, we might have to trust a carpenter to put us out of our pain!

This analogy is so lame and overused by people who have no clue what a teacher's day to day is like for what they get paid, plus the bonus of insults from the broader community who don't actually get in the weeds to help.

Instead, go to your nearest school and volunteer as a monitor - give a teacher a break to use the restroom or eat their sandwich for lunch.

Teachers generally don’t want parents helping out as they are nosy and spies.

Perhaps because only the nosy spies volunteer! Teachers welcome supportive parents, not nosy spies. Try a full day of dealing with an energetic classroom of 20-30 students and then care to compliment your child's teacher on "FCPS Cares". Appreciative parents outnumber nosy spies, but the community only hears condescending critiques from the latter.

Parent here. I can't tell you how many FCPS CARES awards I have submitted, some of which went on to help earn the recipient a region-level award. It's 100% worth it to build up a good teacher. I can't unilaterally raise their salaries, but I can make sure they and their bosses know they are appreciated.

You can also submit FCPS CARES for other staff - bus drivers, custodial staff, lunch staff, whatever. Everyone should do it. But yes, it requires interacting with these people and to do that it does help to volunteer.

Thank you for supporting our school community with your regular, positive "FCPS Cares" submissions. You are helping to boost morale, encourage good pedagogical practice, and highlight the many virtues of our school district.

In my previous school, each Thoughtful Thursday, one student was responsible for bringing in a thoughtful teacher treat - a granola bar and juice, or a bottle of multivitamins - a useful daily reminder of selfcare through flu season😊We need to be more nurturing of our teachers whom we expect, in turn, to nurture our kids.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:It's our area's way of "fully staffing" schools with folks who have no training.

1. One wonders why we have to come up with creative ways to fill teacher vacancies - could be that teachers have to deal with the condescension, disrespect, and know-it-all attitude of parents in "our area" - cause-effect of the need to "fully staff" our schools.
2. "The folks who have no training" are carefully vetted by FCPS - they are long term subs, IAs, parents who have put their children through the system and have volunteered during that time, professionals transitioning for various reasons, including those looking for something meaningful to do with their time and, maybe, give back to their community...until they find out why there are those vacancies in the first place, and run for the exits!
3. Like the draft or jury duty, our country should introduce mandated teaching service in a public school for all of us to learn to respect our diligent, hardworking, sincere educators, entrusted with molding the foundation of the future of our country.

NP. The bolded perfectly describes my short-lived experience as a sub with FCPS. I had considered a career switch for some time and thought I might enjoy teaching. SO GLAD I decided to try subbing before going to all the time, trouble, and expense of becoming a teacher trainee and acquiring licensure, etc. What a hellish experience.

I took on an elementary school long-term sub role and regretted it within days. There was zero training, and I was expected to take on ALL of the responsibilities of a teacher - to include lesson planning, grading, parent/teacher conferences, classroom management (of a very unruly and poorly behaved class), etc. The few kids who actually wanted to be there were a delight, but the rest made it their mission to be as disruptive and disrespectful as possible. When I asked for help from admin, I literally got a shrug.

Needless to say, I absolutely ran for the exits after about a month there. Never again - but at least, now I know.

You proved my point that it is only once you are in a classroom juggling all the many duties of a homeroom teacher all day everyday, that one realizes the true worth of a teacher.

If a teacher's salary were to be doubled, society would begin to respect the amazing people who are entrusted with the foundation years of our children's future.

Instead, armchair critics heap insults on teachers and talk about how they have to reteach their kids - my foot! Put yourself in a teacher's shoes - teach 20-30 clones of your own all day, for a week - and you'll kiss the ground on which a teacher walks. #RespectTeachers
#MandateTeacherDuty

I really don't think the bolded is true. There are lots of high salary people that society doesn't respect.

Let me rephrase that: there aren't any other professions where you literally entrust your life to someone and the person is so underpaid and disrespected. Teachers are the pilots and surgeons of the classroom - in fact, they are also psychologists, scientists, mathematicians, journalists, historians, resident parent, commander-in-chief, all rolled in one. Yet the pay doesn't reflect the skill required to run the ship safely and smoothly everyday - this thread is a testament - hence the teacher exodus.

At the least, before/after contract hours parent conferences should be paid sessions.🤯Parents want to meet teachers before/after a teacher's full-day job, yet teachers don't get paid for that time. A teacher's time should be billable, like a lawyer's/therapist's, then there'll be a tidal shift in how society treats a teacher.👍

Uhhh....nannies would like a word. And daycare professionals. And preschool teachers. And barely paid professional coaches or volunteer coaches (who also don't get paid for their hours). And medical assistants. And also food service workers. And SAHMs.

There are tons of jobs where you put your life or the lives of your children into someone else's hands and people treat you like a robot or worse. Tons.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's our area's way of "fully staffing" schools with folks who have no training.

1. One wonders why we have to come up with creative ways to fill teacher vacancies - could be that teachers have to deal with the condescension, disrespect, and know-it-all attitude of parents in "our area" - cause-effect of the need to "fully staff" our schools.
2. "The folks who have no training" are carefully vetted by FCPS - they are long term subs, IAs, parents who have put their children through the system and have volunteered during that time, professionals transitioning for various reasons, including those looking for something meaningful to do with their time and, maybe, give back to their community...until they find out why there are those vacancies in the first place, and run for the exits!
3. Like the draft or jury duty, our country should introduce mandated teaching service in a public school for all of us to learn to respect our diligent, hardworking, sincere educators, entrusted with molding the foundation of the future of our country.

NP. The bolded perfectly describes my short-lived experience as a sub with FCPS. I had considered a career switch for some time and thought I might enjoy teaching. SO GLAD I decided to try subbing before going to all the time, trouble, and expense of becoming a teacher trainee and acquiring licensure, etc. What a hellish experience.

I took on an elementary school long-term sub role and regretted it within days. There was zero training, and I was expected to take on ALL of the responsibilities of a teacher - to include lesson planning, grading, parent/teacher conferences, classroom management (of a very unruly and poorly behaved class), etc. The few kids who actually wanted to be there were a delight, but the rest made it their mission to be as disruptive and disrespectful as possible. When I asked for help from admin, I literally got a shrug.

Needless to say, I absolutely ran for the exits after about a month there. Never again - but at least, now I know.

You proved my point that it is only once you are in a classroom juggling all the many duties of a homeroom teacher all day everyday, that one realizes the true worth of a teacher.

If a teacher's salary were to be doubled, society would begin to respect the amazing people who are entrusted with the foundation years of our children's future.

Instead, armchair critics heap insults on teachers and talk about how they have to reteach their kids - my foot! Put yourself in a teacher's shoes - teach 20-30 clones of your own all day, for a week - and you'll kiss the ground on which a teacher walks. #RespectTeachers
#MandateTeacherDuty

I really don't think the bolded is true. There are lots of high salary people that society doesn't respect.

Let me rephrase that: there aren't any other professions where you literally entrust your life to someone and the person is so underpaid and disrespected. Teachers are the pilots and surgeons of the classroom - in fact, they are also psychologists, scientists, mathematicians, journalists, historians, resident parent, commander-in-chief, all rolled in one. Yet the pay doesn't reflect the skill required to run the ship safely and smoothly everyday - this thread is a testament - hence the teacher exodus.

At the least, before/after contract hours parent conferences should be paid sessions.🤯Parents want to meet teachers before/after a teacher's full-day job, yet teachers don't get paid for that time. A teacher's time should be billable, like a lawyer's/therapist's, then there'll be a tidal shift in how society treats a teacher.👍

Don’t schedule conferences before/after your hours. I don’t.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's our area's way of "fully staffing" schools with folks who have no training.

1. One wonders why we have to come up with creative ways to fill teacher vacancies - could be that teachers have to deal with the condescension, disrespect, and know-it-all attitude of parents in "our area" - cause-effect of the need to "fully staff" our schools.
2. "The folks who have no training" are carefully vetted by FCPS - they are long term subs, IAs, parents who have put their children through the system and have volunteered during that time, professionals transitioning for various reasons, including those looking for something meaningful to do with their time and, maybe, give back to their community...until they find out why there are those vacancies in the first place, and run for the exits!
3. Like the draft or jury duty, our country should introduce mandated teaching service in a public school for all of us to learn to respect our diligent, hardworking, sincere educators, entrusted with molding the foundation of the future of our country.

NP. The bolded perfectly describes my short-lived experience as a sub with FCPS. I had considered a career switch for some time and thought I might enjoy teaching. SO GLAD I decided to try subbing before going to all the time, trouble, and expense of becoming a teacher trainee and acquiring licensure, etc. What a hellish experience.

I took on an elementary school long-term sub role and regretted it within days. There was zero training, and I was expected to take on ALL of the responsibilities of a teacher - to include lesson planning, grading, parent/teacher conferences, classroom management (of a very unruly and poorly behaved class), etc. The few kids who actually wanted to be there were a delight, but the rest made it their mission to be as disruptive and disrespectful as possible. When I asked for help from admin, I literally got a shrug.

Needless to say, I absolutely ran for the exits after about a month there. Never again - but at least, now I know.

You proved my point that it is only once you are in a classroom juggling all the many duties of a homeroom teacher all day everyday, that one realizes the true worth of a teacher.

If a teacher's salary were to be doubled, society would begin to respect the amazing people who are entrusted with the foundation years of our children's future.

Instead, armchair critics heap insults on teachers and talk about how they have to reteach their kids - my foot! Put yourself in a teacher's shoes - teach 20-30 clones of your own all day, for a week - and you'll kiss the ground on which a teacher walks. #RespectTeachers
#MandateTeacherDuty

I really don't think the bolded is true. There are lots of high salary people that society doesn't respect.

Let me rephrase that: there aren't any other professions where you literally entrust your life to someone and the person is so underpaid and disrespected. Teachers are the pilots and surgeons of the classroom - in fact, they are also psychologists, scientists, mathematicians, journalists, historians, resident parent, commander-in-chief, all rolled in one. Yet the pay doesn't reflect the skill required to run the ship safely and smoothly everyday - this thread is a testament - hence the teacher exodus.

At the least, before/after contract hours parent conferences should be paid sessions.🤯Parents want to meet teachers before/after a teacher's full-day job, yet teachers don't get paid for that time. A teacher's time should be billable, like a lawyer's/therapist's, then there'll be a tidal shift in how society treats a teacher.👍

+100

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's our area's way of "fully staffing" schools with folks who have no training.

1. One wonders why we have to come up with creative ways to fill teacher vacancies - could be that teachers have to deal with the condescension, disrespect, and know-it-all attitude of parents in "our area" - cause-effect of the need to "fully staff" our schools.
2. "The folks who have no training" are carefully vetted by FCPS - they are long term subs, IAs, parents who have put their children through the system and have volunteered during that time, professionals transitioning for various reasons, including those looking for something meaningful to do with their time and, maybe, give back to their community...until they find out why there are those vacancies in the first place, and run for the exits!
3. Like the draft or jury duty, our country should introduce mandated teaching service in a public school for all of us to learn to respect our diligent, hardworking, sincere educators, entrusted with molding the foundation of the future of our country.

NP. The bolded perfectly describes my short-lived experience as a sub with FCPS. I had considered a career switch for some time and thought I might enjoy teaching. SO GLAD I decided to try subbing before going to all the time, trouble, and expense of becoming a teacher trainee and acquiring licensure, etc. What a hellish experience.

I took on an elementary school long-term sub role and regretted it within days. There was zero training, and I was expected to take on ALL of the responsibilities of a teacher - to include lesson planning, grading, parent/teacher conferences, classroom management (of a very unruly and poorly behaved class), etc. The few kids who actually wanted to be there were a delight, but the rest made it their mission to be as disruptive and disrespectful as possible. When I asked for help from admin, I literally got a shrug.

Needless to say, I absolutely ran for the exits after about a month there. Never again - but at least, now I know.

You proved my point that it is only once you are in a classroom juggling all the many duties of a homeroom teacher all day everyday, that one realizes the true worth of a teacher.

If a teacher's salary were to be doubled, society would begin to respect the amazing people who are entrusted with the foundation years of our children's future.

Instead, armchair critics heap insults on teachers and talk about how they have to reteach their kids - my foot! Put yourself in a teacher's shoes - teach 20-30 clones of your own all day, for a week - and you'll kiss the ground on which a teacher walks. #RespectTeachers
#MandateTeacherDuty

I really don't think the bolded is true. There are lots of high salary people that society doesn't respect.

Let me rephrase that: there aren't any other professions where you literally entrust your life to someone and the person is so underpaid and disrespected. Teachers are the pilots and surgeons of the classroom - in fact, they are also psychologists, scientists, mathematicians, journalists, historians, resident parent, commander-in-chief, all rolled in one. Yet the pay doesn't reflect the skill required to run the ship safely and smoothly everyday - this thread is a testament - hence the teacher exodus.

At the least, before/after contract hours parent conferences should be paid sessions.🤯Parents want to meet teachers before/after a teacher's full-day job, yet teachers don't get paid for that time. A teacher's time should be billable, like a lawyer's/therapist's, then there'll be a tidal shift in how society treats a teacher.👍

Uhhh....nannies would like a word. And daycare professionals. And preschool teachers. And barely paid professional coaches or volunteer coaches (who also don't get paid for their hours). And medical assistants. And also food service workers. And SAHMs.

There are tons of jobs where you put your life or the lives of your children into someone else's hands and people treat you like a robot or worse. Tons.

Apologies! There's something badly wrong with our society in general. We have lost our moral compass when we treat people who look after our children with condescension and scant respect. Let's write a positive note on "FCPS Cares" to compliment and thank a teacher today.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's our area's way of "fully staffing" schools with folks who have no training.

1. One wonders why we have to come up with creative ways to fill teacher vacancies - could be that teachers have to deal with the condescension, disrespect, and know-it-all attitude of parents in "our area" - cause-effect of the need to "fully staff" our schools.
2. "The folks who have no training" are carefully vetted by FCPS - they are long term subs, IAs, parents who have put their children through the system and have volunteered during that time, professionals transitioning for various reasons, including those looking for something meaningful to do with their time and, maybe, give back to their community...until they find out why there are those vacancies in the first place, and run for the exits!
3. Like the draft or jury duty, our country should introduce mandated teaching service in a public school for all of us to learn to respect our diligent, hardworking, sincere educators, entrusted with molding the foundation of the future of our country.

NP. The bolded perfectly describes my short-lived experience as a sub with FCPS. I had considered a career switch for some time and thought I might enjoy teaching. SO GLAD I decided to try subbing before going to all the time, trouble, and expense of becoming a teacher trainee and acquiring licensure, etc. What a hellish experience.

I took on an elementary school long-term sub role and regretted it within days. There was zero training, and I was expected to take on ALL of the responsibilities of a teacher - to include lesson planning, grading, parent/teacher conferences, classroom management (of a very unruly and poorly behaved class), etc. The few kids who actually wanted to be there were a delight, but the rest made it their mission to be as disruptive and disrespectful as possible. When I asked for help from admin, I literally got a shrug.

Needless to say, I absolutely ran for the exits after about a month there. Never again - but at least, now I know.

You proved my point that it is only once you are in a classroom juggling all the many duties of a homeroom teacher all day everyday, that one realizes the true worth of a teacher.

If a teacher's salary were to be doubled, society would begin to respect the amazing people who are entrusted with the foundation years of our children's future.

Instead, armchair critics heap insults on teachers and talk about how they have to reteach their kids - my foot! Put yourself in a teacher's shoes - teach 20-30 clones of your own all day, for a week - and you'll kiss the ground on which a teacher walks. #RespectTeachers
#MandateTeacherDuty

I really don't think the bolded is true. There are lots of high salary people that society doesn't respect.

Let me rephrase that: there aren't any other professions where you literally entrust your life to someone and the person is so underpaid and disrespected. Teachers are the pilots and surgeons of the classroom - in fact, they are also psychologists, scientists, mathematicians, journalists, historians, resident parent, commander-in-chief, all rolled in one. Yet the pay doesn't reflect the skill required to run the ship safely and smoothly everyday - this thread is a testament - hence the teacher exodus.

At the least, before/after contract hours parent conferences should be paid sessions.🤯Parents want to meet teachers before/after a teacher's full-day job, yet teachers don't get paid for that time. A teacher's time should be billable, like a lawyer's/therapist's, then there'll be a tidal shift in how society treats a teacher.👍

Don’t schedule conferences before/after your hours. I don’t.

Thank you for the reassurance. I didn't think it was an option in FCPS. Parents say, "I work fulltime!" and I have to bite my tongue to say, "Mine is a fulltime spa day!"

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's our area's way of "fully staffing" schools with folks who have no training.

1. One wonders why we have to come up with creative ways to fill teacher vacancies - could be that teachers have to deal with the condescension, disrespect, and know-it-all attitude of parents in "our area" - cause-effect of the need to "fully staff" our schools.
2. "The folks who have no training" are carefully vetted by FCPS - they are long term subs, IAs, parents who have put their children through the system and have volunteered during that time, professionals transitioning for various reasons, including those looking for something meaningful to do with their time and, maybe, give back to their community...until they find out why there are those vacancies in the first place, and run for the exits!
3. Like the draft or jury duty, our country should introduce mandated teaching service in a public school for all of us to learn to respect our diligent, hardworking, sincere educators, entrusted with molding the foundation of the future of our country.

NP. The bolded perfectly describes my short-lived experience as a sub with FCPS. I had considered a career switch for some time and thought I might enjoy teaching. SO GLAD I decided to try subbing before going to all the time, trouble, and expense of becoming a teacher trainee and acquiring licensure, etc. What a hellish experience.

I took on an elementary school long-term sub role and regretted it within days. There was zero training, and I was expected to take on ALL of the responsibilities of a teacher - to include lesson planning, grading, parent/teacher conferences, classroom management (of a very unruly and poorly behaved class), etc. The few kids who actually wanted to be there were a delight, but the rest made it their mission to be as disruptive and disrespectful as possible. When I asked for help from admin, I literally got a shrug.

Needless to say, I absolutely ran for the exits after about a month there. Never again - but at least, now I know.

You proved my point that it is only once you are in a classroom juggling all the many duties of a homeroom teacher all day everyday, that one realizes the true worth of a teacher.

If a teacher's salary were to be doubled, society would begin to respect the amazing people who are entrusted with the foundation years of our children's future.

Instead, armchair critics heap insults on teachers and talk about how they have to reteach their kids - my foot! Put yourself in a teacher's shoes - teach 20-30 clones of your own all day, for a week - and you'll kiss the ground on which a teacher walks. #RespectTeachers
#MandateTeacherDuty

I really don't think the bolded is true. There are lots of high salary people that society doesn't respect.

Let me rephrase that: there aren't any other professions where you literally entrust your life to someone and the person is so underpaid and disrespected. Teachers are the pilots and surgeons of the classroom - in fact, they are also psychologists, scientists, mathematicians, journalists, historians, resident parent, commander-in-chief, all rolled in one. Yet the pay doesn't reflect the skill required to run the ship safely and smoothly everyday - this thread is a testament - hence the teacher exodus.

At the least, before/after contract hours parent conferences should be paid sessions.🤯Parents want to meet teachers before/after a teacher's full-day job, yet teachers don't get paid for that time. A teacher's time should be billable, like a lawyer's/therapist's, then there'll be a tidal shift in how society treats a teacher.👍

Uhhh....nannies would like a word. And daycare professionals. And preschool teachers. And barely paid professional coaches or volunteer coaches (who also don't get paid for their hours). And medical assistants. And also food service workers. And SAHMs.

There are tons of jobs where you put your life or the lives of your children into someone else's hands and people treat you like a robot or worse. Tons.

I was paid more as a nanny than as a teacher and that includes the benefits.

Also, the fact that the state of MD wants to recruit laid off federal workers to become teachers shows how little they think of us. Sure, they can just slide right in without any previous training.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It's our area's way of "fully staffing" schools with folks who have no training.

1. One wonders why we have to come up with creative ways to fill teacher vacancies - could be that teachers have to deal with the condescension, disrespect, and know-it-all attitude of parents in "our area" - cause-effect of the need to "fully staff" our schools.
2. "The folks who have no training" are carefully vetted by FCPS - they are long term subs, IAs, parents who have put their children through the system and have volunteered during that time, professionals transitioning for various reasons, including those looking for something meaningful to do with their time and, maybe, give back to their community...until they find out why there are those vacancies in the first place, and run for the exits!
3. Like the draft or jury duty, our country should introduce mandated teaching service in a public school for all of us to learn to respect our diligent, hardworking, sincere educators, entrusted with molding the foundation of the future of our country.

NP. The bolded perfectly describes my short-lived experience as a sub with FCPS. I had considered a career switch for some time and thought I might enjoy teaching. SO GLAD I decided to try subbing before going to all the time, trouble, and expense of becoming a teacher trainee and acquiring licensure, etc. What a hellish experience.

I took on an elementary school long-term sub role and regretted it within days. There was zero training, and I was expected to take on ALL of the responsibilities of a teacher - to include lesson planning, grading, parent/teacher conferences, classroom management (of a very unruly and poorly behaved class), etc. The few kids who actually wanted to be there were a delight, but the rest made it their mission to be as disruptive and disrespectful as possible. When I asked for help from admin, I literally got a shrug.

Needless to say, I absolutely ran for the exits after about a month there. Never again - but at least, now I know.

You proved my point that it is only once you are in a classroom juggling all the many duties of a homeroom teacher all day everyday, that one realizes the true worth of a teacher.

If a teacher's salary were to be doubled, society would begin to respect the amazing people who are entrusted with the foundation years of our children's future.

Instead, armchair critics heap insults on teachers and talk about how they have to reteach their kids - my foot! Put yourself in a teacher's shoes - teach 20-30 clones of your own all day, for a week - and you'll kiss the ground on which a teacher walks. #RespectTeachers
#MandateTeacherDuty

I really don't think the bolded is true. There are lots of high salary people that society doesn't respect.

Let me rephrase that: there aren't any other professions where you literally entrust your life to someone and the person is so underpaid and disrespected. Teachers are the pilots and surgeons of the classroom - in fact, they are also psychologists, scientists, mathematicians, journalists, historians, resident parent, commander-in-chief, all rolled in one. Yet the pay doesn't reflect the skill required to run the ship safely and smoothly everyday - this thread is a testament - hence the teacher exodus.

At the least, before/after contract hours parent conferences should be paid sessions.🤯Parents want to meet teachers before/after a teacher's full-day job, yet teachers don't get paid for that time. A teacher's time should be billable, like a lawyer's/therapist's, then there'll be a tidal shift in how society treats a teacher.👍

Uhhh....nannies would like a word. And daycare professionals. And preschool teachers. And barely paid professional coaches or volunteer coaches (who also don't get paid for their hours). And medical assistants. And also food service workers. And SAHMs.

There are tons of jobs where you put your life or the lives of your children into someone else's hands and people treat you like a robot or worse. Tons.

Apologies! There's something badly wrong with our society in general. We have lost our moral compass when we treat people who look after our children with condescension and scant respect. Let's write a positive note on "FCPS Cares" to compliment and thank a teacher today.

Wait you think this is new?

For most of history rich people had their kids raised by slaves, servants, or young women in the extended family who were treated by slaves or servants. If you go back to hunter-gatherer times it was older girls in the tribe raising the younger kids, and children didn't really have full status as people.

Low wages are way better than what was historically the case. Because, see above, kids weren't fully people.

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Anonymous wrote:It's our area's way of "fully staffing" schools with folks who have no training.

1. One wonders why we have to come up with creative ways to fill teacher vacancies - could be that teachers have to deal with the condescension, disrespect, and know-it-all attitude of parents in "our area" - cause-effect of the need to "fully staff" our schools.
2. "The folks who have no training" are carefully vetted by FCPS - they are long term subs, IAs, parents who have put their children through the system and have volunteered during that time, professionals transitioning for various reasons, including those looking for something meaningful to do with their time and, maybe, give back to their community...until they find out why there are those vacancies in the first place, and run for the exits!
3. Like the draft or jury duty, our country should introduce mandated teaching service in a public school for all of us to learn to respect our diligent, hardworking, sincere educators, entrusted with molding the foundation of the future of our country.

NP. The bolded perfectly describes my short-lived experience as a sub with FCPS. I had considered a career switch for some time and thought I might enjoy teaching. SO GLAD I decided to try subbing before going to all the time, trouble, and expense of becoming a teacher trainee and acquiring licensure, etc. What a hellish experience.

I took on an elementary school long-term sub role and regretted it within days. There was zero training, and I was expected to take on ALL of the responsibilities of a teacher - to include lesson planning, grading, parent/teacher conferences, classroom management (of a very unruly and poorly behaved class), etc. The few kids who actually wanted to be there were a delight, but the rest made it their mission to be as disruptive and disrespectful as possible. When I asked for help from admin, I literally got a shrug.

Needless to say, I absolutely ran for the exits after about a month there. Never again - but at least, now I know.

You proved my point that it is only once you are in a classroom juggling all the many duties of a homeroom teacher all day everyday, that one realizes the true worth of a teacher.

If a teacher's salary were to be doubled, society would begin to respect the amazing people who are entrusted with the foundation years of our children's future.

Instead, armchair critics heap insults on teachers and talk about how they have to reteach their kids - my foot! Put yourself in a teacher's shoes - teach 20-30 clones of your own all day, for a week - and you'll kiss the ground on which a teacher walks. #RespectTeachers
#MandateTeacherDuty

I really don't think the bolded is true. There are lots of high salary people that society doesn't respect.

Let me rephrase that: there aren't any other professions where you literally entrust your life to someone and the person is so underpaid and disrespected. Teachers are the pilots and surgeons of the classroom - in fact, they are also psychologists, scientists, mathematicians, journalists, historians, resident parent, commander-in-chief, all rolled in one. Yet the pay doesn't reflect the skill required to run the ship safely and smoothly everyday - this thread is a testament - hence the teacher exodus.

At the least, before/after contract hours parent conferences should be paid sessions.🤯Parents want to meet teachers before/after a teacher's full-day job, yet teachers don't get paid for that time. A teacher's time should be billable, like a lawyer's/therapist's, then there'll be a tidal shift in how society treats a teacher.👍

Uhhh....nannies would like a word. And daycare professionals. And preschool teachers. And barely paid professional coaches or volunteer coaches (who also don't get paid for their hours). And medical assistants. And also food service workers. And SAHMs.

There are tons of jobs where you put your life or the lives of your children into someone else's hands and people treat you like a robot or worse. Tons.

Apologies! There's something badly wrong with our society in general. We have lost our moral compass when we treat people who look after our children with condescension and scant respect. Let's write a positive note on "FCPS Cares" to compliment and thank a teacher today.

Wait you think this is new?

For most of history rich people had their kids raised by slaves, servants, or young women in the extended family who were treated by slaves or servants. If you go back to hunter-gatherer times it was older girls in the tribe raising the younger kids, and children didn't really have full status as people.

Low wages are way better than what was historically the case. Because, see above, kids weren't fully people.

You make a case for learning from our mistakes and ensuring that the dark part of history doesn't repeat itself. In this day and age of equity, of supposed progress, it is unacceptable retreating to a regressive state to treat teachers with condescension. The profession is disrespected as is a nanny or stay at home parent because it is not adequately compensated, and the issue is that our clients do not generate revenues.

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Anonymous wrote:It's our area's way of "fully staffing" schools with folks who have no training.

1. One wonders why we have to come up with creative ways to fill teacher vacancies - could be that teachers have to deal with the condescension, disrespect, and know-it-all attitude of parents in "our area" - cause-effect of the need to "fully staff" our schools.
2. "The folks who have no training" are carefully vetted by FCPS - they are long term subs, IAs, parents who have put their children through the system and have volunteered during that time, professionals transitioning for various reasons, including those looking for something meaningful to do with their time and, maybe, give back to their community...until they find out why there are those vacancies in the first place, and run for the exits!
3. Like the draft or jury duty, our country should introduce mandated teaching service in a public school for all of us to learn to respect our diligent, hardworking, sincere educators, entrusted with molding the foundation of the future of our country.

NP. The bolded perfectly describes my short-lived experience as a sub with FCPS. I had considered a career switch for some time and thought I might enjoy teaching. SO GLAD I decided to try subbing before going to all the time, trouble, and expense of becoming a teacher trainee and acquiring licensure, etc. What a hellish experience.

I took on an elementary school long-term sub role and regretted it within days. There was zero training, and I was expected to take on ALL of the responsibilities of a teacher - to include lesson planning, grading, parent/teacher conferences, classroom management (of a very unruly and poorly behaved class), etc. The few kids who actually wanted to be there were a delight, but the rest made it their mission to be as disruptive and disrespectful as possible. When I asked for help from admin, I literally got a shrug.

Needless to say, I absolutely ran for the exits after about a month there. Never again - but at least, now I know.

You proved my point that it is only once you are in a classroom juggling all the many duties of a homeroom teacher all day everyday, that one realizes the true worth of a teacher.

If a teacher's salary were to be doubled, society would begin to respect the amazing people who are entrusted with the foundation years of our children's future.

Instead, armchair critics heap insults on teachers and talk about how they have to reteach their kids - my foot! Put yourself in a teacher's shoes - teach 20-30 clones of your own all day, for a week - and you'll kiss the ground on which a teacher walks. #RespectTeachers
#MandateTeacherDuty

I really don't think the bolded is true. There are lots of high salary people that society doesn't respect.

Let me rephrase that: there aren't any other professions where you literally entrust your life to someone and the person is so underpaid and disrespected. Teachers are the pilots and surgeons of the classroom - in fact, they are also psychologists, scientists, mathematicians, journalists, historians, resident parent, commander-in-chief, all rolled in one. Yet the pay doesn't reflect the skill required to run the ship safely and smoothly everyday - this thread is a testament - hence the teacher exodus.

At the least, before/after contract hours parent conferences should be paid sessions.🤯Parents want to meet teachers before/after a teacher's full-day job, yet teachers don't get paid for that time. A teacher's time should be billable, like a lawyer's/therapist's, then there'll be a tidal shift in how society treats a teacher.👍

Uhhh....nannies would like a word. And daycare professionals. And preschool teachers. And barely paid professional coaches or volunteer coaches (who also don't get paid for their hours). And medical assistants. And also food service workers. And SAHMs.

There are tons of jobs where you put your life or the lives of your children into someone else's hands and people treat you like a robot or worse. Tons.

Apologies! There's something badly wrong with our society in general. We have lost our moral compass when we treat people who look after our children with condescension and scant respect. Let's write a positive note on "FCPS Cares" to compliment and thank a teacher today.

Wait you think this is new?

For most of history rich people had their kids raised by slaves, servants, or young women in the extended family who were treated by slaves or servants. If you go back to hunter-gatherer times it was older girls in the tribe raising the younger kids, and children didn't really have full status as people.

Low wages are way better than what was historically the case. Because, see above, kids weren't fully people.

So we should somehow be grateful for low wages because it’s so much better than not being paid at all? Do you even hear yourself? Honestly, it would serve people like you right if your kids’ teachers just walk out. I wouldn’t blame them a bit.

All parents and admin staff should be required to teach a class for one week. Alone.

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Anonymous wrote:It's our area's way of "fully staffing" schools with folks who have no training.

1. One wonders why we have to come up with creative ways to fill teacher vacancies - could be that teachers have to deal with the condescension, disrespect, and know-it-all attitude of parents in "our area" - cause-effect of the need to "fully staff" our schools.
2. "The folks who have no training" are carefully vetted by FCPS - they are long term subs, IAs, parents who have put their children through the system and have volunteered during that time, professionals transitioning for various reasons, including those looking for something meaningful to do with their time and, maybe, give back to their community...until they find out why there are those vacancies in the first place, and run for the exits!
3. Like the draft or jury duty, our country should introduce mandated teaching service in a public school for all of us to learn to respect our diligent, hardworking, sincere educators, entrusted with molding the foundation of the future of our country.

NP. The bolded perfectly describes my short-lived experience as a sub with FCPS. I had considered a career switch for some time and thought I might enjoy teaching. SO GLAD I decided to try subbing before going to all the time, trouble, and expense of becoming a teacher trainee and acquiring licensure, etc. What a hellish experience.

I took on an elementary school long-term sub role and regretted it within days. There was zero training, and I was expected to take on ALL of the responsibilities of a teacher - to include lesson planning, grading, parent/teacher conferences, classroom management (of a very unruly and poorly behaved class), etc. The few kids who actually wanted to be there were a delight, but the rest made it their mission to be as disruptive and disrespectful as possible. When I asked for help from admin, I literally got a shrug.

Needless to say, I absolutely ran for the exits after about a month there. Never again - but at least, now I know.

You proved my point that it is only once you are in a classroom juggling all the many duties of a homeroom teacher all day everyday, that one realizes the true worth of a teacher.

If a teacher's salary were to be doubled, society would begin to respect the amazing people who are entrusted with the foundation years of our children's future.

Instead, armchair critics heap insults on teachers and talk about how they have to reteach their kids - my foot! Put yourself in a teacher's shoes - teach 20-30 clones of your own all day, for a week - and you'll kiss the ground on which a teacher walks. #RespectTeachers
#MandateTeacherDuty

I really don't think the bolded is true. There are lots of high salary people that society doesn't respect.

Let me rephrase that: there aren't any other professions where you literally entrust your life to someone and the person is so underpaid and disrespected. Teachers are the pilots and surgeons of the classroom - in fact, they are also psychologists, scientists, mathematicians, journalists, historians, resident parent, commander-in-chief, all rolled in one. Yet the pay doesn't reflect the skill required to run the ship safely and smoothly everyday - this thread is a testament - hence the teacher exodus.

At the least, before/after contract hours parent conferences should be paid sessions.🤯Parents want to meet teachers before/after a teacher's full-day job, yet teachers don't get paid for that time. A teacher's time should be billable, like a lawyer's/therapist's, then there'll be a tidal shift in how society treats a teacher.👍

Uhhh....nannies would like a word. And daycare professionals. And preschool teachers. And barely paid professional coaches or volunteer coaches (who also don't get paid for their hours). And medical assistants. And also food service workers. And SAHMs.

There are tons of jobs where you put your life or the lives of your children into someone else's hands and people treat you like a robot or worse. Tons.

Apologies! There's something badly wrong with our society in general. We have lost our moral compass when we treat people who look after our children with condescension and scant respect. Let's write a positive note on "FCPS Cares" to compliment and thank a teacher today.

Wait you think this is new?

For most of history rich people had their kids raised by slaves, servants, or young women in the extended family who were treated by slaves or servants. If you go back to hunter-gatherer times it was older girls in the tribe raising the younger kids, and children didn't really have full status as people.

Low wages are way better than what was historically the case. Because, see above, kids weren't fully people.

So we should somehow be grateful for low wages because it’s so much better than not being paid at all? Do you even hear yourself? Honestly, it would serve people like you right if your kids’ teachers just walk out. I wouldn’t blame them a bit.

All parents and admin staff should be required to teach a class for one week. Alone.

Person after my own heart - EXACTLY what I've been proposing - mandatory one week #TeacherDuty unassisted will overnight result in national appreciation for the life of a teacher. Also, parents in the private sector may find ways to sponsor a deserving teacher - the possibilities are limitless...teachers are rose-tinted glass wearing optimists.

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's our area's way of "fully staffing" schools with folks who have no training.

1. One wonders why we have to come up with creative ways to fill teacher vacancies - could be that teachers have to deal with the condescension, disrespect, and know-it-all attitude of parents in "our area" - cause-effect of the need to "fully staff" our schools.
2. "The folks who have no training" are carefully vetted by FCPS - they are long term subs, IAs, parents who have put their children through the system and have volunteered during that time, professionals transitioning for various reasons, including those looking for something meaningful to do with their time and, maybe, give back to their community...until they find out why there are those vacancies in the first place, and run for the exits!
3. Like the draft or jury duty, our country should introduce mandated teaching service in a public school for all of us to learn to respect our diligent, hardworking, sincere educators, entrusted with molding the foundation of the future of our country.

NP. The bolded perfectly describes my short-lived experience as a sub with FCPS. I had considered a career switch for some time and thought I might enjoy teaching. SO GLAD I decided to try subbing before going to all the time, trouble, and expense of becoming a teacher trainee and acquiring licensure, etc. What a hellish experience.

I took on an elementary school long-term sub role and regretted it within days. There was zero training, and I was expected to take on ALL of the responsibilities of a teacher - to include lesson planning, grading, parent/teacher conferences, classroom management (of a very unruly and poorly behaved class), etc. The few kids who actually wanted to be there were a delight, but the rest made it their mission to be as disruptive and disrespectful as possible. When I asked for help from admin, I literally got a shrug.

Needless to say, I absolutely ran for the exits after about a month there. Never again - but at least, now I know.

You proved my point that it is only once you are in a classroom juggling all the many duties of a homeroom teacher all day everyday, that one realizes the true worth of a teacher.

If a teacher's salary were to be doubled, society would begin to respect the amazing people who are entrusted with the foundation years of our children's future.

Instead, armchair critics heap insults on teachers and talk about how they have to reteach their kids - my foot! Put yourself in a teacher's shoes - teach 20-30 clones of your own all day, for a week - and you'll kiss the ground on which a teacher walks. #RespectTeachers
#MandateTeacherDuty

I really don't think the bolded is true. There are lots of high salary people that society doesn't respect.

Let me rephrase that: there aren't any other professions where you literally entrust your life to someone and the person is so underpaid and disrespected. Teachers are the pilots and surgeons of the classroom - in fact, they are also psychologists, scientists, mathematicians, journalists, historians, resident parent, commander-in-chief, all rolled in one. Yet the pay doesn't reflect the skill required to run the ship safely and smoothly everyday - this thread is a testament - hence the teacher exodus.

At the least, before/after contract hours parent conferences should be paid sessions.🤯Parents want to meet teachers before/after a teacher's full-day job, yet teachers don't get paid for that time. A teacher's time should be billable, like a lawyer's/therapist's, then there'll be a tidal shift in how society treats a teacher.👍

Don’t schedule conferences before/after your hours. I don’t.

Thank you for the reassurance. I didn't think it was an option in FCPS. Parents say, "I work fulltime!" and I have to bite my tongue to say, "Mine is a fulltime spa day!"

We are a two teacher family. It’s definitely an option. Schedule conferences or phone calls during planning when you don’t have CT meetings or on TW days. On occasion I’ll meet for 15 minutes or so right after the students leave.

Do you get many requests for conferences?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's our area's way of "fully staffing" schools with folks who have no training.

1. One wonders why we have to come up with creative ways to fill teacher vacancies - could be that teachers have to deal with the condescension, disrespect, and know-it-all attitude of parents in "our area" - cause-effect of the need to "fully staff" our schools.
2. "The folks who have no training" are carefully vetted by FCPS - they are long term subs, IAs, parents who have put their children through the system and have volunteered during that time, professionals transitioning for various reasons, including those looking for something meaningful to do with their time and, maybe, give back to their community...until they find out why there are those vacancies in the first place, and run for the exits!
3. Like the draft or jury duty, our country should introduce mandated teaching service in a public school for all of us to learn to respect our diligent, hardworking, sincere educators, entrusted with molding the foundation of the future of our country.

NP. The bolded perfectly describes my short-lived experience as a sub with FCPS. I had considered a career switch for some time and thought I might enjoy teaching. SO GLAD I decided to try subbing before going to all the time, trouble, and expense of becoming a teacher trainee and acquiring licensure, etc. What a hellish experience.

I took on an elementary school long-term sub role and regretted it within days. There was zero training, and I was expected to take on ALL of the responsibilities of a teacher - to include lesson planning, grading, parent/teacher conferences, classroom management (of a very unruly and poorly behaved class), etc. The few kids who actually wanted to be there were a delight, but the rest made it their mission to be as disruptive and disrespectful as possible. When I asked for help from admin, I literally got a shrug.

Needless to say, I absolutely ran for the exits after about a month there. Never again - but at least, now I know.

You proved my point that it is only once you are in a classroom juggling all the many duties of a homeroom teacher all day everyday, that one realizes the true worth of a teacher.

If a teacher's salary were to be doubled, society would begin to respect the amazing people who are entrusted with the foundation years of our children's future.

Instead, armchair critics heap insults on teachers and talk about how they have to reteach their kids - my foot! Put yourself in a teacher's shoes - teach 20-30 clones of your own all day, for a week - and you'll kiss the ground on which a teacher walks. #RespectTeachers
#MandateTeacherDuty

I really don't think the bolded is true. There are lots of high salary people that society doesn't respect.

Let me rephrase that: there aren't any other professions where you literally entrust your life to someone and the person is so underpaid and disrespected. Teachers are the pilots and surgeons of the classroom - in fact, they are also psychologists, scientists, mathematicians, journalists, historians, resident parent, commander-in-chief, all rolled in one. Yet the pay doesn't reflect the skill required to run the ship safely and smoothly everyday - this thread is a testament - hence the teacher exodus.

At the least, before/after contract hours parent conferences should be paid sessions.🤯Parents want to meet teachers before/after a teacher's full-day job, yet teachers don't get paid for that time. A teacher's time should be billable, like a lawyer's/therapist's, then there'll be a tidal shift in how society treats a teacher.👍

Don’t schedule conferences before/after your hours. I don’t.

Thank you for the reassurance. I didn't think it was an option in FCPS. Parents say, "I work fulltime!" and I have to bite my tongue to say, "Mine is a fulltime spa day!"

We are a two teacher family. It’s definitely an option. Schedule conferences or phone calls during planning when you don’t have CT meetings or on TW days. On occasion I’ll meet for 15 minutes or so right after the students leave.

Do you get many requests for conferences?

Not from many parents, but there are always those 1-2 overbearing ones who think they own you. Lady year, I had two sets who couldn't get enough of me and one even told me her husband is a busy doctor and cannot make it during school hours! Lol I wanted to say, "No problem, teachers are on call 24/7, too, only we don't get paid beyond contract hours."

This year I have a parent who informed me she's "a working mom" and I almost said, "Wow, we have so much in common!"

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Does anyone have experience with iTeach? Asking for someone who is getting their provisional license and is wondering if iTeach is the way to get to permanent licensure.