
With a thumbs up or down, a thumb down, the counselor could respond by asking if she needs to visit the camp nurse. Some kids are probably already frequent fliers to the nurse’s office, for a wide variety of reasons. |
This kind of thing only works if the kid is compliant and candid. It seems like OP's DD was rude and noncompliant, or at least the camp didn't have confidence in her compliance. |
It’s too late the camp isn’t going to implement this strategy for you no matter how easy, convenient, and effective you think it is. They are telling yiu they can’t meet your daughter’s needs and you shouldn’t feel comfortable sending her to a camp that is saying this. |
Has anyone ever requested records from a summer camp? You can request copies of most records so it should be possible. |
This is such good advice. I feel like you are focusing on all the other aspects of the incident when this is in the end the most important takeaway for your daughter. Learning this lesson now could prevent a worse situation in the future. In that sense it's actually a pretty low price for a major lesson learned. Try to help frame it that way for both of you and let go of your frustrations about whether or how the camp could have done things differently. |
This is part of how one builds distress tolerance, op. Certain behaviors have unwanted consequences and if they are unwanted enough kids begin to learn to find alternate coping mechanisms.
Not that that’s why the camp said no. The camp said no because they didn’t have the resources and/or the will to do whatever they felt was needed. |
I'm assuming all the defensive posts on this thread are coming from the OP.
As she posts more and more, I am really hoping the OP is a troll (which is rare on the SN forum). I am alarmed at how obstinate OP is being. Her daughter had a mental health episode that the camp thought was serious enough to warrant a 911 call. Whether anxiety or suicidal thoughts, this was a mental health episode. OP is literally only concerned that the camp wouldn't let her daughter back, or won't pay a refund. Why is OP not concerned about her daughter's mental health? This thread is really alarming, and I am genuinely concerned for OP's daughter (again, assuming OP is not a troll). |
The bold is an inappropriate, stigmatizing and punitive response from the counselor. He is essentially punishing her for her perspective - that what she did was not reflective of the serious accusation he was making. Instead of reporting that she didn't seem upset or worried, he decided to report that she was being uncooperative. He made this adversarial instead of partnering with her. He might be following protocol, but it is clear that he has no mental health first aid training and the people that do made a different judgement than he did. |
Breaking news, a highly trained physician had a more thoughtful assessment than a 17 year old counselor making 6 bucks an hour. If op wants a specialized camp she needs to find it, this one isn’t offering what she wants (and if it was it would be wildly expensive.) |
I am pretty sure that the counselor mentioned there is the mental health provider that the camp asked to have meet with her and clear her before she returned. It sounds as though the mental health provider is saying that the kid reported having made a sarcastic or joking comment, and that the camp responded appropriately by following protocol. Those protocols exist because 17 year old camp counselors shouldn't be the ones making major decisions about whether a kid is safe. So one thing the mental health counselor did was to advise the kid to respond honestly and seriously the next time someone asks her. |
I don’t was the counselor OP engaged to get “clearance” to go back to camp. OP says she had to meet with a Dr and counselor after the fact . This wasn’t the camp counselor. OPs counselor noted she was not being cooperative with the camp caregivers OP wants to “check in frequently” with her to check on her mood. The daughter made joking, snappy, inappropriate comments when they camp first check on her and her response is what prompted the EMS call if I’m following this correctly. Therefore the came seems reasonable is saying they can’t accept her back after this if she’s uncooperative with the people OP wants to check in on her. |
Should every kid who jokes or blurts out without thinking be stigmatized or labeled as having mental health problems. It sounds like the family did everything that was recommended for them to do so why are you assuming that they don’t take her mental health seriously? |
If they are also self harming, then yes. |
Because OP is downplaying her conduct, the risks she presents and the recommendations from trained professionals. |
The trained professionals are the ones who determined OPs daughter was not at risk. |