New VA school rating system in 2025-2026 SY

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Anonymous wrote:It’s just amazing to me how far FCPS has fallen since the mid-90s. It would have been unheard of before then to have any schools in those lower two categories.

Massive illegal immigration and far-left Democrats on the SB are all responsible for this decline and it’s shameful.


Fairfax County was smaller than, teachers were better, admins were better, there were less standards, etc....

Or FCPS stopped the spin machine and it has always been bad.


No, it actually was an excellent school district. The spin is what we see today, when FCPS pretends to still be excellent and “world class,” as they like to say.


It had fewer poor and ELL kids. Those kids drag down school ratings and that's reflected in FCPS today. The schools that don't have those kids are still ranked as some of the best schools in the state

+1. Pretty much this people. A school district reflects its population. I agree this is probably just an in for the introduction of school vouchers which will further drag down public education. I do disagree with some of FCPS’s policies like not holding kids accountable for their behaviors and grading policies. This will only put more pressure on school districts to teach to standardized tests.


My friends in more voucher friendly states really appreciated the economic diversity it brought to their private schools. As someone who was educated with a hodge-podge of everything but charter schools, I don't understand why vouchers are such a bad thing. Letting poorer people have the same privilege to pick their schools as the wealthy - the HORRORS. Unless you're FEA, why be threatened?

Because a lot of charter schools are crappy AF and do not operate under the same regulations as public schools. Many are also religious based which some of us are not religious. They also can be more discerning about who they pick so the excuse that it gives poor kids more opportunities is BS.


You don’t think poor smart kids exist?


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Truly poor kids are not going to have access to schools via voucher. The rate of FARMS kids in some public schools will skyrocket once middle class kids leave with vouchers. If money from vouchers is pulled directly from the school system, FCPS is going to go downhill faster.


If your going-in assumption is that the schools are so bad anyone with the financial option to do so will leave, then fix the schools. Don’t trap the students.


There's no feasible way to do this that doesn't involve a ton of federal overhauls.


Then let kids leave. You can’t have it both ways that there’s no fixing the schools but also say kids and families should stay in schools that aren’t meeting their needs.
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Anonymous wrote:FCPS is just scared that people will find out just how bad some of the bad schools are


FCPS is scared that people will find out just how bad the schools are. I fixed it for you. I think we are all in for a wake up call.


Nope sorry- yougnkin is also removing ESL positions to help kids AND is deciminating public school pre-k while also saying all sped preschool preschool kids have to have inclusion.
He is decimating our education system.

But to Karl I have to say -‘grandfathering you dimwit, grandfathering’ your school board just passed 8130 without discussing grandfathering until the DAY OF THE MEETING. So yes, you do it too
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“So they’ll have all the things we don’t have answers for straightened out in the next month? No!" said Karl Frisch, chair of the Fairfax County Board of Education. "So they’re voting on it before straightening it out? Can you imagine if we tried to do something like that here?"

Does Karl not realize they are rushing boundary review by bypassing the RFP process next Thursday? I CAN imagine, Karl, because you are about to jam the boundary review down our throats in expedited fashion. You can’t make this stuff up.

I’m all for the accreditation moves at the state level and for the ensuing vouchers. The school board has gone too far with this boundary review process.


Karl Frisch should not be on the school board.

He is the least qualified member, ever, and is only using his position to fundrais from California so he can rum for higher office.
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Anonymous wrote:ELL students, if managed correctly, are an advantage to the school they are at because they have the potential to show the most growth compared to kids who are already on grade level and just pass.


But the new ratings are going to weight “mastery” more than “growth.”


+1 there will be many schools with high ELL populations that will be screwed. And this school board will redraw boundaries to cover it up.

You can’t really re-draw boundaries to cover it up. Aside from Langley, most schools will continue to see an increase in ELL and FARMS.


Already happening. See Hunt Valley ES boundary proposal -Sandy Anderson - redrawn to attend Lewis (Lee) HS.

I’d homeschool or move or switch to private rather than send my DC to Lewis.


If they move all of Hunt Valley, that will be a sufficient cohort for me to send my DC to Lewis. YMMV

Says someone who has never set foot in Lewis or knows what goes on at the school. Let your child attend a thug and gang school? Nah. HVES will homeschool if they can't figure out the HS transfer process.


It is likely West Springfield Elementary getting rezoned to Lewis. All the signs point to WSE, not HV.
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Anonymous wrote:It’s just amazing to me how far FCPS has fallen since the mid-90s. It would have been unheard of before then to have any schools in those lower two categories.

Massive illegal immigration and far-left Democrats on the SB are all responsible for this decline and it’s shameful.


Yup we all watched it in real time. We heard teachers sounding the alarms years ago but nothing was done.
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Anonymous wrote:It’s just amazing to me how far FCPS has fallen since the mid-90s. It would have been unheard of before then to have any schools in those lower two categories.

Massive illegal immigration and far-left Democrats on the SB are all responsible for this decline and it’s shameful.


What a weird and factually wrong thing to say. I also dispute the premise that FCPS "has fallen."

As for Democrats, I suppose it could be worse -- Republicans could be in charge.


Republicans wouldn't just be passing kids to pass them.
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Anonymous wrote:ELL students, if managed correctly, are an advantage to the school they are at because they have the potential to show the most growth compared to kids who are already on grade level and just pass.


But the new ratings are going to weight “mastery” more than “growth.”


+1 there will be many schools with high ELL populations that will be screwed. And this school board will redraw boundaries to cover it up.

You can’t really re-draw boundaries to cover it up. Aside from Langley, most schools will continue to see an increase in ELL and FARMS.


Vote for a presidential candidate who supports deportation


I mean this would indeed help the school systems right now...
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Anonymous wrote:It’s just amazing to me how far FCPS has fallen since the mid-90s. It would have been unheard of before then to have any schools in those lower two categories.

Massive illegal immigration and far-left Democrats on the SB are all responsible for this decline and it’s shameful.


Yup we all watched it in real time. We heard teachers sounding the alarms years ago but nothing was done.


I love this because it shows just how ignorant Republicans are about themselves.

George bush was the master of No Child Left Behinc- the bill that was supposed to eliminate the “soft bigotry of low expectations” from ELL learners. This bill is the root of all current education issue. Schools are the great equalizer, but that equality needs to be looked at over 1-2 generations, not all to happen within the life time of one child brought to the USA at age 10 and expected to master a new language culture and academic achievements at the same rate of native born middle class children.

That expectation is driving so many educational issue right now.

We are dealing the consequences of NCLB a REPUBLICAN bill that has left school systems unable to meet the needs of their students because those expectations are so unreal for most students.

I say this as a child on an immigrant BTW.
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Anonymous wrote:It’s just amazing to me how far FCPS has fallen since the mid-90s. It would have been unheard of before then to have any schools in those lower two categories.

Massive illegal immigration and far-left Democrats on the SB are all responsible for this decline and it’s shameful.


Fairfax County was smaller than, teachers were better, admins were better, there were less standards, etc....

Or FCPS stopped the spin machine and it has always been bad.


No, it actually was an excellent school district. The spin is what we see today, when FCPS pretends to still be excellent and “world class,” as they like to say.


It had fewer poor and ELL kids. Those kids drag down school ratings and that's reflected in FCPS today. The schools that don't have those kids are still ranked as some of the best schools in the state

+1. Pretty much this people. A school district reflects its population. I agree this is probably just an in for the introduction of school vouchers which will further drag down public education. I do disagree with some of FCPS’s policies like not holding kids accountable for their behaviors and grading policies. This will only put more pressure on school districts to teach to standardized tests.


My friends in more voucher friendly states really appreciated the economic diversity it brought to their private schools. As someone who was educated with a hodge-podge of everything but charter schools, I don't understand why vouchers are such a bad thing. Letting poorer people have the same privilege to pick their schools as the wealthy - the HORRORS. Unless you're FEA, why be threatened?

Because a lot of charter schools are crappy AF and do not operate under the same regulations as public schools. Many are also religious based which some of us are not religious. They also can be more discerning about who they pick so the excuse that it gives poor kids more opportunities is BS.


You don’t think poor smart kids exist?


DP
Truly poor kids are not going to have access to schools via voucher. The rate of FARMS kids in some public schools will skyrocket once middle class kids leave with vouchers. If money from vouchers is pulled directly from the school system, FCPS is going to go downhill faster.


If your going-in assumption is that the schools are so bad anyone with the financial option to do so will leave, then fix the schools. Don’t trap the students.


There's no feasible way to do this that doesn't involve a ton of federal overhauls.


Then let kids leave. You can’t have it both ways that there’s no fixing the schools but also say kids and families should stay in schools that aren’t meeting their needs.


I’m all for letting them leave. Unenroll the kids two don’t show up and put the ones who can’t keep up or behave into alternative programs that are excused from accreditation standards. The focus should be on academics for those who want to learn, not baby-sitting the ones who don’t.
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Anonymous wrote:FCPS is just scared that people will find out just how bad some of the bad schools are


FCPS is scared that people will find out just how bad the schools are. I fixed it for you. I think we are all in for a wake up call.



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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:FCPS is just scared that people will find out just how bad some of the bad schools are


FCPS is scared that people will find out just how bad the schools are. I fixed it for you. I think we are all in for a wake up call.



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Speak for you-my kids are having great experiences one in aap and one in immersion
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It’s just amazing to me how far FCPS has fallen since the mid-90s. It would have been unheard of before then to have any schools in those lower two categories.

Massive illegal immigration and far-left Democrats on the SB are all responsible for this decline and it’s shameful.


Yup we all watched it in real time. We heard teachers sounding the alarms years ago but nothing was done.


I love this because it shows just how ignorant Republicans are about themselves.

George bush was the master of No Child Left Behinc- the bill that was supposed to eliminate the “soft bigotry of low expectations” from ELL learners. This bill is the root of all current education issue. Schools are the great equalizer, but that equality needs to be looked at over 1-2 generations, not all to happen within the life time of one child brought to the USA at age 10 and expected to master a new language culture and academic achievements at the same rate of native born middle class children.

That expectation is driving so many educational issue right now.

We are dealing the consequences of NCLB a REPUBLICAN bill that has left school systems unable to meet the needs of their students because those expectations are so unreal for most students.

I say this as a child on an immigrant BTW.


Bingo I started teaching when NCLB was signed.....education has been in decline since. At this point education is unrecognizable and if we are being honest no side has made it better. Nobody cares enough about education.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:FCPS is just scared that people will find out just how bad some of the bad schools are


FCPS is scared that people will find out just how bad the schools are. I fixed it for you. I think we are all in for a wake up call.



10000%


Speak for you-my kids are having great experiences one in aap and one in immersion


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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:FCPS is just scared that people will find out just how bad some of the bad schools are


FCPS is scared that people will find out just how bad the schools are. I fixed it for you. I think we are all in for a wake up call.


Nope sorry- yougnkin is also removing ESL positions to help kids AND is deciminating public school pre-k while also saying all sped preschool preschool kids have to have inclusion.
He is decimating our education system.

But to Karl I have to say -‘grandfathering you dimwit, grandfathering’ your school board just passed 8130 without discussing grandfathering until the DAY OF THE MEETING. So yes, you do it too


Our school system is being decimated by a failure to patrol the borders. We can actually pay attention to who is being allowed to live here illegally, or we can step up and make a massive investment to acclimate these people, but modest increases in school budgets will just leave teachers frustrated and sap the support of other parents for school systems like FCPS.
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Anonymous wrote:It’s just amazing to me how far FCPS has fallen since the mid-90s. It would have been unheard of before then to have any schools in those lower two categories.

Massive illegal immigration and far-left Democrats on the SB are all responsible for this decline and it’s shameful.


Fairfax County was smaller than, teachers were better, admins were better, there were less standards, etc....

Or FCPS stopped the spin machine and it has always been bad.


No, it actually was an excellent school district. The spin is what we see today, when FCPS pretends to still be excellent and “world class,” as they like to say.


It had fewer poor and ELL kids. Those kids drag down school ratings and that's reflected in FCPS today. The schools that don't have those kids are still ranked as some of the best schools in the state

+1. Pretty much this people. A school district reflects its population. I agree this is probably just an in for the introduction of school vouchers which will further drag down public education. I do disagree with some of FCPS’s policies like not holding kids accountable for their behaviors and grading policies. This will only put more pressure on school districts to teach to standardized tests.


My friends in more voucher friendly states really appreciated the economic diversity it brought to their private schools. As someone who was educated with a hodge-podge of everything but charter schools, I don't understand why vouchers are such a bad thing. Letting poorer people have the same privilege to pick their schools as the wealthy - the HORRORS. Unless you're FEA, why be threatened?

Because a lot of charter schools are crappy AF and do not operate under the same regulations as public schools. Many are also religious based which some of us are not religious. They also can be more discerning about who they pick so the excuse that it gives poor kids more opportunities is BS.


You don’t think poor smart kids exist?


DP
Truly poor kids are not going to have access to schools via voucher. The rate of FARMS kids in some public schools will skyrocket once middle class kids leave with vouchers. If money from vouchers is pulled directly from the school system, FCPS is going to go downhill faster.


If your going-in assumption is that the schools are so bad anyone with the financial option to do so will leave, then fix the schools. Don’t trap the students.


There's no feasible way to do this that doesn't involve a ton of federal overhauls.


Then let kids leave. You can’t have it both ways that there’s no fixing the schools but also say kids and families should stay in schools that aren’t meeting their needs.


I’m all for letting them leave. Unenroll the kids two don’t show up and put the ones who can’t keep up or behave into alternative programs that are excused from accreditation standards. The focus should be on academics for those who want to learn, not baby-sitting the ones who don’t.


This is one of the issues that needs attention and soon!
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