ILs pushing their religion on our family

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Anonymous wrote:Religion is indoctrination full stop.

Religion is the largest population where sex abuse of children occurs.

OP tell you inlaws to take a hike.

Lots of things are “indoctrination.”

“Religion is the largest population where sex abuse of children occurs.” Nonsense. Family relationships, particularly parents, are the most frequent locus of abuse.

Followed by teachers.

Predators go where the children are. Period.

Religion is 1000% the top place children get sexually abused.

The updated numbers: out of 308 cases of child sex abuse or rape over the past 9 weeks, 17% are evangelical pastors or youth pastors, 21% hold some church position (not including a Bible teacher and a catholic school teacher). No drag queens.

Source?

I'm team OP and curious about this myself.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:ILs are extremely religious. Every gift for the kids is religious based. DH and I have always been respectful although we don't share the same beliefs. They have started pushing more with texts, emails, books, videos and pulling DH or I aside that we need to find religion. DH is ready to completely cut them off since they can't seem to respect our beliefs. Is there any way to talk to someone like this? No matter how often we say no thank you, they keep pushing.

Why not be open to let kids have different influences and then decide for themselves. If not open then just let ILs know that you understand their good intentions but have a right to make decisions about how to raise your children. They already had that chance with their children.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:ILs are extremely religious. Every gift for the kids is religious based. DH and I have always been respectful although we don't share the same beliefs. They have started pushing more with texts, emails, books, videos and pulling DH or I aside that we need to find religion. DH is ready to completely cut them off since they can't seem to respect our beliefs. Is there any way to talk to someone like this? No matter how often we say no thank you, they keep pushing.

Why not be open to let kids have different influences and then decide for themselves. If not open then just let ILs know that you understand their good intentions but have a right to make decisions about how to raise your children. They already had that chance with their children.

There is a difference between letting your kid explore religion once they are old enough to make that choice and having your kid bombarded with it in a scary and rude manner.
We are not religious, a few times my kids asked why we "dont go to church or Sunday school". I always told them why but offered to let them go with any friend they wanted to. They went once and had no interest in going again. They were both around age 10/11 when they asked.

They are now in their 20s and not religious.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:ILs are extremely religious. Every gift for the kids is religious based. DH and I have always been respectful although we don't share the same beliefs. They have started pushing more with texts, emails, books, videos and pulling DH or I aside that we need to find religion. DH is ready to completely cut them off since they can't seem to respect our beliefs. Is there any way to talk to someone like this? No matter how often we say no thank you, they keep pushing.

Why not be open to let kids have different influences and then decide for themselves. If not open then just let ILs know that you understand their good intentions but have a right to make decisions about how to raise your children. They already had that chance with their children.

This has been suggested in a few different forms.

It's a noble sentiment, but I think the approach is flawed. "[L]et kids have different influences" is loaded advice. What it really means is "let kids have these different influences contrary to your beliefs, but only because the influences at hand are agreeable to me". This is a hidden judgement call to substitute the judgement of the parents. Indeed, would you be advising them to allow "different influences" if the influence was uncle ozzy pushing after school satan club? (Maybe you would, I don't know.)

I'm gathering that if OP was comfortable with the ILs religion and influence, they wouldn't be posting here. So I'm of the assumption the parents have considered the influence and made their decision. I'm on team Let Parents Parent.

[Anonymous]

Religion is nothing but indoctrination.

We can see from society it does nothing but create war and hate.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Religion is nothing but indoctrination.

We can see from society it does nothing but create war and hate.

I'm on team OP and this is starting to tire me out.

Maybe take to this "Political Discussion", or offer some meaningful advice.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:ILs are extremely religious. Every gift for the kids is religious based. DH and I have always been respectful although we don't share the same beliefs. They have started pushing more with texts, emails, books, videos and pulling DH or I aside that we need to find religion. DH is ready to completely cut them off since they can't seem to respect our beliefs. Is there any way to talk to someone like this? No matter how often we say no thank you, they keep pushing.

Why not be open to let kids have different influences and then decide for themselves. If not open then just let ILs know that you understand their good intentions but have a right to make decisions about how to raise your children. They already had that chance with their children.

By your reasoning, we should be open to letting our kids have unrestricted access to social media. What's the difference? Be open to letting them have diffrent influences and then they can decide for themselves.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:ILs are extremely religious. Every gift for the kids is religious based. DH and I have always been respectful although we don't share the same beliefs. They have started pushing more with texts, emails, books, videos and pulling DH or I aside that we need to find religion. DH is ready to completely cut them off since they can't seem to respect our beliefs. Is there any way to talk to someone like this? No matter how often we say no thank you, they keep pushing.

Why not be open to let kids have different influences and then decide for themselves. If not open then just let ILs know that you understand their good intentions but have a right to make decisions about how to raise your children. They already had that chance with their children.

By your reasoning, we should be open to letting our kids have unrestricted access to social media. What's the difference? Be open to letting them have diffrent influences and then they can decide for themselves.

Or watch X, M, R rated films.

[Anonymous]

Evangelical religions are horrible about not only trying to indoctrinate children early but pushing things like hate for LGBTQ people, patriarchy and spare the rod spoil the child abuse. I would never leave my children alone with in laws like this. OP be happy that your DH is ready and eager to cut ties.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote: It’s a way to share and be together. People celebrate strangers’ religions. Think of the diversity religion activities that schools hold, ex. Diwali. Why not celebrate with your family?

Your husband probably feels they want to control him, that’s why he’s feeling resentful, but think about when your kids turn on you for teaching them to be rigid.

"It’s a way to share and be together. People celebrate strangers’ religions [New Age Cultism, Wiccanism]. Think of the diversity religion activities that schools hold, ex. Diwali, [After School Satan Club]. Why not celebrate [Scientology, Healing Crystals, Witchcraft] with your family?

Your husband probably feels they want to control him, that’s why he’s feeling resentful, but think about when your kids turn on you for teaching them to be rigid [about depriving them of After School Satan Club]. "

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Religion is indoctrination full stop.

Religion is the largest population where sex abuse of children occurs.

OP tell you inlaws to take a hike.

Lots of things are “indoctrination.”

“Religion is the largest population where sex abuse of children occurs.” Nonsense. Family relationships, particularly parents, are the most frequent locus of abuse.

Followed by teachers.

Predators go where the children are. Period.

Religion is 1000% the top place children get sexually abused.

The updated numbers: out of 308 cases of child sex abuse or rape over the past 9 weeks, 17% are evangelical pastors or youth pastors, 21% hold some church position (not including a Bible teacher and a catholic school teacher). No drag queens.

What are the other 83%? 17% seems rather low.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Religion is indoctrination full stop.

Religion is the largest population where sex abuse of children occurs.

OP tell you inlaws to take a hike.

Lots of things are “indoctrination.”

“Religion is the largest population where sex abuse of children occurs.” Nonsense. Family relationships, particularly parents, are the most frequent locus of abuse.

Followed by teachers.

Predators go where the children are. Period.

Religion is 1000% the top place children get sexually abused.

The updated numbers: out of 308 cases of child sex abuse or rape over the past 9 weeks, 17% are evangelical pastors or youth pastors, 21% hold some church position (not including a Bible teacher and a catholic school teacher). No drag queens.

What are the other 83%? 17% seems rather low.

Wait what? 17% fr just evangelical is crazy high. These were ones reported and we all know how churches and religious people are about not reporting child abuse.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Religion is indoctrination full stop.

Religion is the largest population where sex abuse of children occurs.

OP tell you inlaws to take a hike.

Lots of things are “indoctrination.”

“Religion is the largest population where sex abuse of children occurs.” Nonsense. Family relationships, particularly parents, are the most frequent locus of abuse.

Followed by teachers.

Predators go where the children are. Period.

Religion is 1000% the top place children get sexually abused.

The updated numbers: out of 308 cases of child sex abuse or rape over the past 9 weeks, 17% are evangelical pastors or youth pastors, 21% hold some church position (not including a Bible teacher and a catholic school teacher). No drag queens.

What are the other 83%? 17% seems rather low.

Wait what? 17% fr just evangelical is crazy high. These were ones reported and we all know how churches and religious people are about not reporting child abuse.

What is the 83%? There is no context.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Religion is indoctrination full stop.

Religion is the largest population where sex abuse of children occurs.

OP tell you inlaws to take a hike.

Lots of things are “indoctrination.”

“Religion is the largest population where sex abuse of children occurs.” Nonsense. Family relationships, particularly parents, are the most frequent locus of abuse.

Followed by teachers.

Predators go where the children are. Period.

Religion is 1000% the top place children get sexually abused.

The updated numbers: out of 308 cases of child sex abuse or rape over the past 9 weeks, 17% are evangelical pastors or youth pastors, 21% hold some church position (not including a Bible teacher and a catholic school teacher). No drag queens.

What are the other 83%? 17% seems rather low.

Wait what? 17% fr just evangelical is crazy high. These were ones reported and we all know how churches and religious people are about not reporting child abuse.

What is the 83%? There is no context.

DP - if you have tiktok you can look up newgirlny_fl , she is the one collecting and posting these stats. They are based on arrests, not just accusations. Pretty interesting.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Evangelical religions are horrible about not only trying to indoctrinate children early but pushing things like hate for LGBTQ people, patriarchy and spare the rod spoil the child abuse. I would never leave my children alone with in laws like this. OP be happy that your DH is ready and eager to cut ties.

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