You can't see that they are different. |
There's nothing democratic about the current system. You're arguing with me because I won't get in line and make the choice you're telling me I have no other option but to make. That's democracy to you? You really think because you go in that little booth every 4 years and pick a guy they picked for you, you have a say in anything that happens? |
Your vote is your choice. You come on here trying to convince me that your choice makes sense or has an impact and I disagree. Oh well. |
I can see that they sound different. But actual material differences? Not a lot of daylight between the two. |
A lot or a little, one will win. |
You're right. One will win. But I don't have to give them the impression they have some huge mandate from the people. The best outcome is for Biden to win, but barely. The Democrats need a reason to start listening. They need to fear losing their coalition and their pathway to winning seats. |
If you really want to make change, vote in house and senate races. I don’t like either of these two clowns, but so much of the blame for things happening or not is down to inaction in Congress. We have a border plan, but the Rs won’t call a vote. They kill all the budgets, which has a lot to do with driving fiscal policy. No matter what they say, they won’t come to the table. So I’m voting blue no matter who, because I’m female, and I’m not led around by the nose by the Mudochs, but whichever party ditches their guy first wins big time. |
The mandate is to protect the country from further destruction by trump. Same as in 2020. This is the same election only add in overturning roe, Jan 6th insurrection, the developments in the war in Ukraine and the war in Gaza and overturning the border bill for starters. |
have to add in huge defamation judgement in the rape case, the huge judgement in the NYC fraud case and the other indictments...my bad. I know his MAGA supporters love when he shoots people on 5th avenue without consequence but no one else is a fan. |
They may be the same in Israel but they sure as hell are different in women's health and choice.....but if doesn't matter to you....do you hun. |
One believes in the good of people and the general ability for government to do good things for people and create economic conditions for people to have success. The other believes in a ruling class of oligarchs and corporations with little to no rules and most people are just "worker drones" to serve the ruling class. They couldn't be more different in their outlook, their leadership or their policies. |
The border plan was killed because of the two clowns told the GOP not to pass it. What makes you think if Trump were president, and this legislation came to him, that he would sign it? Oh, I suppose he would because then he could claim credit for something. |
They aren't the same with Israel. Biden has negotiated one cease fire, and is trying for more. Biden has been trying to get humanitarian aid into Gaza for the Palestianian people. Bide supports a two-state solution. Trump and the GOP are NONE of these things. |
Your mistake is believing only one side believes this. If you stop listening to what they say and look at what they actually do, you'll see that both major parties serve the oligarchs and corporations. BOTH OF THEM. The Democrats give you the illusion of opposition, while constantly failing to stop anything or fix anything. And every year the divide between rich and poor grows. And every election cycle they tell us democracy is at stake, vote for us or things will worse. |
They’re both beholden to the powerful pro-Israel lobby. So yes, they are the same with Israel. |