CHIPS act is a disaster so far

[Anonymous]

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/biden-wants-the-us-to-make-20-of-all-high-end-chips-by-end-of-the-decade-182847439.html

The Biden administration laid out an ambitious new goal for the US: produce 20% of the world’s most advanced semiconductor chips by the end of the decade.

😂 😂 😂

These fools will never learn

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:https://www.economist.com/business/2024/02/22/tsmc-is-having-more-luck-building-in-japan-than-in-america

Tsmc is able to build and scale in Japan much faster than the us

Different zoning and other approval processes. That is a local issue, not federal.

Who is subsidizing TSMC to do that?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:https://www.economist.com/business/2024/02/22/tsmc-is-having-more-luck-building-in-japan-than-in-america

Tsmc is able to build and scale in Japan much faster than the us

Different zoning and other approval processes. That is a local issue, not federal.

Who is subsidizing TSMC to do that?

TSM has not yet been awarded a government grant for the Arizona build out. So either Arizona is currently subsidizing, or TSM is footing the buildout. TSM put in a request to bring over workers from Taiwan to work the Arizona factory, arguing that they could not find skilled workers in the US. I do not know if the request was granted. I surely hope not, especially if they are receiving government grants.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:https://www.economist.com/business/2024/02/22/tsmc-is-having-more-luck-building-in-japan-than-in-america

Tsmc is able to build and scale in Japan much faster than the us

Different zoning and other approval processes. That is a local issue, not federal.

Who is subsidizing TSMC to do that?

TSM has not yet been awarded a government grant for the Arizona build out. So either Arizona is currently subsidizing, or TSM is footing the buildout. TSM put in a request to bring over workers from Taiwan to work the Arizona factory, arguing that they could not find skilled workers in the US. I do not know if the request was granted. I surely hope not, especially if they are receiving government grants.

Us government messed up by not rubber stamping greencards to Tsmc workers so they can smoothly bring them here and staff the buildout in az

Gina raimondo is an Italian American from then north east. She will never understand semiconductors like East Asians will

Not sure how she became a Rhodes scholar

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:https://www.economist.com/business/2024/02/22/tsmc-is-having-more-luck-building-in-japan-than-in-america

Tsmc is able to build and scale in Japan much faster than the us

Different zoning and other approval processes. That is a local issue, not federal.

Who is subsidizing TSMC to do that?

TSM has not yet been awarded a government grant for the Arizona build out. So either Arizona is currently subsidizing, or TSM is footing the buildout. TSM put in a request to bring over workers from Taiwan to work the Arizona factory, arguing that they could not find skilled workers in the US. I do not know if the request was granted. I surely hope not, especially if they are receiving government grants.

Us government messed up by not rubber stamping greencards to Tsmc workers so they can smoothly bring them here and staff the buildout in az

Gina raimondo is an Italian American from then north east. She will never understand semiconductors like East Asians will

Not sure how she became a Rhodes scholar

People like Josh Hawley and Senator John Kennedy and Senator Ted Cruz were all Ivy educated too....what is your point?

[Anonymous]

CHANDLER, Ariz. (AP) — President Joe Biden on Wednesday celebrated an agreement to provide Intel with up to $8.5 billion in direct funding and $11 billion in loans for computer chip plants around the country, talking up the investment in the political battleground state of Arizona and calling it a way of “bringing the future back to America.”

The Biden administration has predicted that the cash infusion should help the U.S. boost its global share of advanced chip production from zero to 20%. The Democratic president highlighted the investment while visiting Intel’s Ocotillo campus in Chandler, Arizona, where he inspected silicon wafers and expressed amazement at how thin the chips are.

In remarks after a tour, Biden pivoted to the impact his policies could have on the U.S. economy as he tries to translate his policy wins into a political boost ahead of November’s election. Intel plans to invest in facilities in Arizona, Ohio, Oregon and New Mexico, with some of the government money helping to support workforce development.
https://apnews.com/article/biden-intel-computer-chips-arizona-ohio-658029c7ecda43c0a1d18c4f0a6529fc#

[Anonymous]

Well they have all these ridiculous restrictions for sourcing of labor. Good luck finding enough skilled people willing to live in Montana to create an apprenticeship program for high-tech manufacturing. Chip fabrication is highly technical/specialized. We cannot teach Americans to do this work without Taiwanese workers to train them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Well they have all these ridiculous restrictions for sourcing of labor. Good luck finding enough skilled people willing to live in Montana to create an apprenticeship program for high-tech manufacturing. Chip fabrication is highly technical/specialized. We cannot teach Americans to do this work without Taiwanese workers to train them.

This is such BS. The US have the workers and they can be trained and taught. They just have to be willing to pay a fair wage in comparison to a Taiwan wage.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Well they have all these ridiculous restrictions for sourcing of labor. Good luck finding enough skilled people willing to live in Montana to create an apprenticeship program for high-tech manufacturing. Chip fabrication is highly technical/specialized. We cannot teach Americans to do this work without Taiwanese workers to train them.

This is such BS. The US have the workers and they can be trained and taught. They just have to be willing to pay a fair wage in comparison to a Taiwan wage.

You can train them without importing labor, but it will take a lot longer to get everything established. It will easily take 5-10 years to establish a talent pipeline and waiting for this to happen will slow down every
Step of the process.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:https://finance.yahoo.com/news/biden-wants-the-us-to-make-20-of-all-high-end-chips-by-end-of-the-decade-182847439.html

The Biden administration laid out an ambitious new goal for the US: produce 20% of the world’s most advanced semiconductor chips by the end of the decade.

😂 😂 😂

These fools will never learn

By the end of the decade? This needs to be completed BEFORE China attacks Taiwan and takes over TSMC. That's the whole point.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Well they have all these ridiculous restrictions for sourcing of labor. Good luck finding enough skilled people willing to live in Montana to create an apprenticeship program for high-tech manufacturing. Chip fabrication is highly technical/specialized. We cannot teach Americans to do this work without Taiwanese workers to train them.

Uh, I know a lot of people who would move to Montana in a heartbeat to do this. I am sure I am not the only one.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:https://finance.yahoo.com/news/biden-wants-the-us-to-make-20-of-all-high-end-chips-by-end-of-the-decade-182847439.html

The Biden administration laid out an ambitious new goal for the US: produce 20% of the world’s most advanced semiconductor chips by the end of the decade.

😂 😂 😂

These fools will never learn

By the end of the decade? This needs to be completed BEFORE China attacks Taiwan and takes over TSMC. That's the whole point.

Isn't end of the decade better than not at all? It is a public-private partnership. It is complicated. But it puts the US back on the right track. The GOP had no solutions and didn't do anything about it and voted against it.

[Anonymous]

So...not a disaster.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

So...not a disaster.

It’s a disaster for the GOP if voters realize that the Democrats are better for America workers and manufacturing.

[Anonymous]

Unfortunately they never will. Trumpers are so deep in the Kool Aid that they will never, never admit that anything Biden has done is worthwhile. He's "the worst president in the history of America."