young people on tiktok now like Osama Bin Laden

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Our culture no longer has any guiding values or convictions. Just a general sense of shame and an unquestioning belief that any idea put forward by oppressed or non-western people is categorically correct.

I’m a professor, though I am not in the humanities. It’s wild to think about how much has changed in even the past 10 years. I have really had to think about how I talk about certain topics for fear of saying the wrong thing. I don’t think it’s a bad thing to be more mindful of our language and consider how it impacts others, but I think the pendulum has swung too far. There’s a lot of talk and pressure to “decolonize your syllabus”, include works from more diverse voices, hire faculty focused on DEI no matter what the discipline. It seems that in the effort to combat “the WEIRD problem” young people have gotten the message that Western = bad. The intention behind this stuff makes sense to adults who can appreciate the history and nuance. The point was to include non-Western perspectives *in addition to* the traditional Western voices. But it’s not being received in the intended way by people who lack the proper education, experience, and brain development. And now they’re getting exposed to some crazy ideas on TikTok where they spend a lot more time than they spend in class. It’s not good.

It is amazing the messaging that American kids get that Western=bad

The reality is almost everyone in the world wants to move to the US because of opportunities that they do not have in their countries.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Our culture no longer has any guiding values or convictions. Just a general sense of shame and an unquestioning belief that any idea put forward by oppressed or non-western people is categorically correct.

I’m a professor, though I am not in the humanities. It’s wild to think about how much has changed in even the past 10 years. I have really had to think about how I talk about certain topics for fear of saying the wrong thing. I don’t think it’s a bad thing to be more mindful of our language and consider how it impacts others, but I think the pendulum has swung too far. There’s a lot of talk and pressure to “decolonize your syllabus”, include works from more diverse voices, hire faculty focused on DEI no matter what the discipline. It seems that in the effort to combat “the WEIRD problem” young people have gotten the message that Western = bad. The intention behind this stuff makes sense to adults who can appreciate the history and nuance. The point was to include non-Western perspectives *in addition to* the traditional Western voices. But it’s not being received in the intended way by people who lack the proper education, experience, and brain development. And now they’re getting exposed to some crazy ideas on TikTok where they spend a lot more time than they spend in class. It’s not good.

No it's not good.

And it's not just confined to professors being hyper sensitive to what they say for fear of inciting these social-media addled students. It's all the other students. Better to keep your head down than note that what's occurring in Gaza is not remotely the same as what happened during the Holocaust. Or the Rwandan genocide. Or the Armenian genocide. And this applies to a number of other issues. A student that notes that there was a lot of good that came out of both the Renaissance and the Enlightenment will be regarded as a racist fascist oppressor these days.

Frankly, I blame the universities themselves. Faculty hiring in the humanities and social sciences has been overwhelmingly ideological in recent years. I recall watching the Cornell professor cheering on the massacres by Hamas. He called it "exhilarating." What was striking is the total lack of self-awareness. Not for a minute did he think he was saying something objectionable. The humanities and the social sciences are so lost in their far-left silos that all reason, logic, morality, empathy, discussion, examination, and history are all gone now. Education in these fields has become a left-wing purity test. And you can never be too far left in academia. It's all about resistance. Fighting the oppressor.

And these are the people with power in universities. They decide tenure. And every kid that has gone through this for the past ten years has experienced this. From micro aggressions to cultural appropriation when you have braids or eat a Korean taco to gender fluidity. And a thousand other issues.

When I see those young people on TikTok celebrating Osama Bin Laden, I see the Nazi Youth. Fundamentally innocent and ignorant people. But utterly indoctrinated. More so than social media, I blame the colleges and universities. They set the tone for everything. And admiring Osama Bin Laden and Al Qaeda is a very logical outcome to what's been going on in colleges for a while now.

Yes, I agree completely.

Things are getting out of hand. Dangerous, really.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I believe that the younger generation is more independent in seeking information compared to us. We grew up with mainstream media pushing messages from both the left and the right. However, these kids can access their own news sources, which can change daily. While some of their information may be incorrect, and some may be accurate, they are undoubtedly better informed than our generation in the end

I could not possibly disagree more.

They have higher volume of inputs, and no mechanism for distinguishing accurate from inaccurate, meaningful from irrelevant, or in objective from subjective.

As a result, they actually and literally know nothing, despite being awash in information.

They are profoundly ignorant at the most fundamental level.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I believe that the younger generation is more independent in seeking information compared to us. We grew up with mainstream media pushing messages from both the left and the right. However, these kids can access their own news sources, which can change daily. While some of their information may be incorrect, and some may be accurate, they are undoubtedly better informed than our generation in the end

I could not possibly disagree more.

They have higher volume of inputs, and no mechanism for distinguishing accurate from inaccurate, meaningful from irrelevant, or in objective from subjective.

As a result, they actually and literally know nothing, despite being awash in information.

They are profoundly ignorant at the most fundamental level.

Agree. Ask them what is the source of their information. What money is behind any particular information source. You get a blank stare or garbage answer and no understanding of why the source is even critically important.

[Anonymous]

I'm not old enough to remember when Jesse Jackson led a protest at Stanford chanting "hey ho, western civ has got to go" back in 1987. But getting rid of western civilization teachings is a goal and has been for decades.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Our culture no longer has any guiding values or convictions. Just a general sense of shame and an unquestioning belief that any idea put forward by oppressed or non-western people is categorically correct.

I’m a professor, though I am not in the humanities. It’s wild to think about how much has changed in even the past 10 years. I have really had to think about how I talk about certain topics for fear of saying the wrong thing. I don’t think it’s a bad thing to be more mindful of our language and consider how it impacts others, but I think the pendulum has swung too far. There’s a lot of talk and pressure to “decolonize your syllabus”, include works from more diverse voices, hire faculty focused on DEI no matter what the discipline. It seems that in the effort to combat “the WEIRD problem” young people have gotten the message that Western = bad. The intention behind this stuff makes sense to adults who can appreciate the history and nuance. The point was to include non-Western perspectives *in addition to* the traditional Western voices. But it’s not being received in the intended way by people who lack the proper education, experience, and brain development. And now they’re getting exposed to some crazy ideas on TikTok where they spend a lot more time than they spend in class. It’s not good.

It is amazing the messaging that American kids get that Western=bad

The reality is almost everyone in the world wants to move to the US because of opportunities that they do not have in their countries.

In 10 years there will be no Americans in US in the sense we have them now. We rename all the historical places like George Mason school or Abraham Lincoln so they don't know their history. We re-write the history for them, so they never know what actually happened. It may not even take 10 years from now.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Our culture no longer has any guiding values or convictions. Just a general sense of shame and an unquestioning belief that any idea put forward by oppressed or non-western people is categorically correct.

I’m a professor, though I am not in the humanities. It’s wild to think about how much has changed in even the past 10 years. I have really had to think about how I talk about certain topics for fear of saying the wrong thing. I don’t think it’s a bad thing to be more mindful of our language and consider how it impacts others, but I think the pendulum has swung too far. There’s a lot of talk and pressure to “decolonize your syllabus”, include works from more diverse voices, hire faculty focused on DEI no matter what the discipline. It seems that in the effort to combat “the WEIRD problem” young people have gotten the message that Western = bad. The intention behind this stuff makes sense to adults who can appreciate the history and nuance. The point was to include non-Western perspectives *in addition to* the traditional Western voices. But it’s not being received in the intended way by people who lack the proper education, experience, and brain development. And now they’re getting exposed to some crazy ideas on TikTok where they spend a lot more time than they spend in class. It’s not good.

It is amazing the messaging that American kids get that Western=bad

The reality is almost everyone in the world wants to move to the US because of opportunities that they do not have in their countries.

In 10 years there will be no Americans in US in the sense we have them now. We rename all the historical places like George Mason school or Abraham Lincoln so they don't know their history. We re-write the history for them, so they never know what actually happened. It may not even take 10 years from now.

Omg the great replacement theory lives on.

[Anonymous]

Has none of you conservative freaks bothered to do any research into this alleged story at all? Any of you? It was a few trolls doing what trolls do: agitating people. And you dummies fell for and honestly think that America’s youth like Osama bin Laden?! Pathetically gullible and easily led.

If anyone likes the words of Osama bin Laden, it’s the right wing nutjobs in the GOP. Show me the sunlight between the words of Al Qaeda or the Taliban and the GOP’s thought “leaders,” because I don’t see it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Our culture no longer has any guiding values or convictions. Just a general sense of shame and an unquestioning belief that any idea put forward by oppressed or non-western people is categorically correct.

I’m a professor, though I am not in the humanities. It’s wild to think about how much has changed in even the past 10 years. I have really had to think about how I talk about certain topics for fear of saying the wrong thing. I don’t think it’s a bad thing to be more mindful of our language and consider how it impacts others, but I think the pendulum has swung too far. There’s a lot of talk and pressure to “decolonize your syllabus”, include works from more diverse voices, hire faculty focused on DEI no matter what the discipline. It seems that in the effort to combat “the WEIRD problem” young people have gotten the message that Western = bad. The intention behind this stuff makes sense to adults who can appreciate the history and nuance. The point was to include non-Western perspectives *in addition to* the traditional Western voices. But it’s not being received in the intended way by people who lack the proper education, experience, and brain development. And now they’re getting exposed to some crazy ideas on TikTok where they spend a lot more time than they spend in class. It’s not good.

It is amazing the messaging that American kids get that Western=bad

The reality is almost everyone in the world wants to move to the US because of opportunities that they do not have in their countries.

In 10 years there will be no Americans in US in the sense we have them now. We rename all the historical places like George Mason school or Abraham Lincoln so they don't know their history. We re-write the history for them, so they never know what actually happened. It may not even take 10 years from now.

Omg the great replacement theory lives on.

It’s GOP dogma. Of course it lives on; they’re still indoctrinating their youth.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Our culture no longer has any guiding values or convictions. Just a general sense of shame and an unquestioning belief that any idea put forward by oppressed or non-western people is categorically correct.

I’m a professor, though I am not in the humanities. It’s wild to think about how much has changed in even the past 10 years. I have really had to think about how I talk about certain topics for fear of saying the wrong thing. I don’t think it’s a bad thing to be more mindful of our language and consider how it impacts others, but I think the pendulum has swung too far. There’s a lot of talk and pressure to “decolonize your syllabus”, include works from more diverse voices, hire faculty focused on DEI no matter what the discipline. It seems that in the effort to combat “the WEIRD problem” young people have gotten the message that Western = bad. The intention behind this stuff makes sense to adults who can appreciate the history and nuance. The point was to include non-Western perspectives *in addition to* the traditional Western voices. But it’s not being received in the intended way by people who lack the proper education, experience, and brain development. And now they’re getting exposed to some crazy ideas on TikTok where they spend a lot more time than they spend in class. It’s not good.

No it's not good.

And it's not just confined to professors being hyper sensitive to what they say for fear of inciting these social-media addled students. It's all the other students. Better to keep your head down than note that what's occurring in Gaza is not remotely the same as what happened during the Holocaust. Or the Rwandan genocide. Or the Armenian genocide. And this applies to a number of other issues. A student that notes that there was a lot of good that came out of both the Renaissance and the Enlightenment will be regarded as a racist fascist oppressor these days.

Frankly, I blame the universities themselves. Faculty hiring in the humanities and social sciences has been overwhelmingly ideological in recent years. I recall watching the Cornell professor cheering on the massacres by Hamas. He called it "exhilarating." What was striking is the total lack of self-awareness. Not for a minute did he think he was saying something objectionable. The humanities and the social sciences are so lost in their far-left silos that all reason, logic, morality, empathy, discussion, examination, and history are all gone now. Education in these fields has become a left-wing purity test. And you can never be too far left in academia. It's all about resistance. Fighting the oppressor.

And these are the people with power in universities. They decide tenure. And every kid that has gone through this for the past ten years has experienced this. From micro aggressions to cultural appropriation when you have braids or eat a Korean taco to gender fluidity. And a thousand other issues.

When I see those young people on TikTok celebrating Osama Bin Laden, I see the Nazi Youth. Fundamentally innocent and ignorant people. But utterly indoctrinated. More so than social media, I blame the colleges and universities. They set the tone for everything. And admiring Osama Bin Laden and Al Qaeda is a very logical outcome to what's been going on in colleges for a while now.

Yes, I agree completely.

Things are getting out of hand. Dangerous, really.

You are totally wrong that things are getting out of hand. Everything is under control and heading where it should be. America as you knew it is no longer exist but it will be a totally different world in US in less than 10 years. These professors were hired for reason and they are doing a great job in shaping next generation of Americans. They and the teachers in public schools. And Americans are willing to pay $90k per year for their offspring to eat this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Liberals cannot control the beasts they raised and created.

Tik Tok is no different than X or Facebook or Instagram. There are always a minority of crazy people on social media platforms. I love Tik Tok. My feed is filled with cute dogs and cats, no political stuff. If I went searching for crazy stuff, I could find it on any platform.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Has none of you conservative freaks bothered to do any research into this alleged story at all? Any of you? It was a few trolls doing what trolls do: agitating people. And you dummies fell for and honestly think that America’s youth like Osama bin Laden?! Pathetically gullible and easily led.

If anyone likes the words of Osama bin Laden, it’s the right wing nutjobs in the GOP. Show me the sunlight between the words of Al Qaeda or the Taliban and the GOP’s thought “leaders,” because I don’t see it.

+💯 so much to say on this. The sweeping generalizations here are astounding. GenZ is the native digital generation. They absolutely decipher humans vs bots. They also debate with each other very well. My 20 year old is not a humanities major. He has read all important, age appropriate books about the holocaust and history in a k-12 public school system. His university’s core requirements are rigorous and takes 4 semesters to complete (no less than 17 credits per semester). Off the top of my head for liberal arts— 2 philosophy, 2 theology, history, texts and concepts, upper level composition, social sciences, and much more. He’s not even in the liberal arts school. Plus major and electives.