Tell me about Drexel University

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Anonymous wrote:Drexel peers would be schools like RIT and NJIT, maybe WPI.

RIT and NJIT are peers.

WPI is definately a step above them.

I thought so, even WPI is very questionable.
Delexel people are very overconfident.

What is questionable about WPI? Curious to know

WPI is 82 and climbing, while Northeastern is 58 and dropping. Give it a couple years for them to cross in rankings.

It's going to happen faster than you think. WPI earnings are 100k, while Northeastern is 87k. And WPI more than triples Northeastern on endowment per student (easy to accomplish as Northeastern has a tiny endowment).

Drexel will surpass WPI in no time.

Drexel, WPI, and Northeastern have a lot of similarities. My guess is Drexel and WPI and Northeastern will soon return to all having a similar ranking. But will happen by Northeastern dropping even further.

Here's the peer school groups
- Drexel, NJIT, Temple, RIT
- WPI, Stevens IT, RPI
- BU, BC, Tufts, Northeastern, LeHigh, URochester, Wake Forest, etc.

New method heavily favors public schools, but relative ranking among private schools didn't change much especially for Northeastern.
Only LeHigh rose above Northeastern.

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Anonymous wrote:He will most likely be safe but that area is not safe. Drexel and Upenn are in a terrible location (I’m from philly). They are great schools in the midst of a challenged neighborhood. But for the most part they are in their own little world and he will he fine.

This isn’t true any more, sounds like you haven’t been back in decades. Penn and Drexel have bought up most of the surrounding area and it is safe. I wouldn’t wander a mile or so away in certain directions but wouldn’t have any concern about the safety of my student on campus.

Ha ha, I am west Philly born and raised. My dad and sister went to Penn. My family has been in Philly for generations. I was just there this weekend and my sisters car was stolen from 42nd and Walnut Street! Much like DC the campus neighborhood has been gentrified but with a larger low income population than DC the benefits of gentrification have not trickled down. I’m African American and certainly not afraid of “urban environments”. Philadelphia including University City is worse than when I was growing up. I said the campus was in its own little bubble and they would be fine. But lets not pretend that crime in Ucity is magically gone because the campus has expanded. I’m black and my family and social groups have a different lived experience than PPs so I have a different perspective.

Yes. Everyone I know who works or studies in Philly wants to get out. Only on DCUM do I read about how it is a happening city with new grads moving there. I’ve read reports that say Chicago is actually a top destination for college grads.

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Anonymous wrote:He will most likely be safe but that area is not safe. Drexel and Upenn are in a terrible location (I’m from philly). They are great schools in the midst of a challenged neighborhood. But for the most part they are in their own little world and he will he fine.

This isn’t true any more, sounds like you haven’t been back in decades. Penn and Drexel have bought up most of the surrounding area and it is safe. I wouldn’t wander a mile or so away in certain directions but wouldn’t have any concern about the safety of my student on campus.

Ha ha, I am west Philly born and raised. My dad and sister went to Penn. My family has been in Philly for generations. I was just there this weekend and my sisters car was stolen from 42nd and Walnut Street! Much like DC the campus neighborhood has been gentrified but with a larger low income population than DC the benefits of gentrification have not trickled down. I’m African American and certainly not afraid of “urban environments”. Philadelphia including University City is worse than when I was growing up. I said the campus was in its own little bubble and they would be fine. But lets not pretend that crime in Ucity is magically gone because the campus has expanded. I’m black and my family and social groups have a different lived experience than PPs so I have a different perspective.

Yes. Everyone I know who works or studies in Philly wants to get out. Only on DCUM do I read about how it is a happening city with new grads moving there. I’ve read reports that say Chicago is actually a top destination for college grads.

I'm guessing you and your friends are really old.

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Anonymous wrote:He will most likely be safe but that area is not safe. Drexel and Upenn are in a terrible location (I’m from philly). They are great schools in the midst of a challenged neighborhood. But for the most part they are in their own little world and he will he fine.

This isn’t true any more, sounds like you haven’t been back in decades. Penn and Drexel have bought up most of the surrounding area and it is safe. I wouldn’t wander a mile or so away in certain directions but wouldn’t have any concern about the safety of my student on campus.

Ha ha, I am west Philly born and raised. My dad and sister went to Penn. My family has been in Philly for generations. I was just there this weekend and my sisters car was stolen from 42nd and Walnut Street! Much like DC the campus neighborhood has been gentrified but with a larger low income population than DC the benefits of gentrification have not trickled down. I’m African American and certainly not afraid of “urban environments”. Philadelphia including University City is worse than when I was growing up. I said the campus was in its own little bubble and they would be fine. But lets not pretend that crime in Ucity is magically gone because the campus has expanded. I’m black and my family and social groups have a different lived experience than PPs so I have a different perspective.

Yes. Everyone I know who works or studies in Philly wants to get out. Only on DCUM do I read about how it is a happening city with new grads moving there. I’ve read reports that say Chicago is actually a top destination for college grads.

I'm guessing you and your friends are really old.

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Anonymous wrote:Drexel peers would be schools like RIT and NJIT, maybe WPI.

RIT and NJIT are peers.

WPI is definately a step above them.

I thought so, even WPI is very questionable.
Delexel people are very overconfident.

What is questionable about WPI? Curious to know

WPI is 82 and climbing, while Northeastern is 58 and dropping. Give it a couple years for them to cross in rankings.

It's going to happen faster than you think. WPI earnings are 100k, while Northeastern is 87k. And WPI more than triples Northeastern on endowment per student (easy to accomplish as Northeastern has a tiny endowment).

Wow. I just looked up Northeastern endowment and PP is right. It has 30,000 students, but with an endowment of only 1.5 billion. That means it generates enough to cover about 2500 per student annually. Truly nothing.

Agreed that endowment is an important factor but it's a part of the equation just like location is an important factor but it's one of them.
Otherwise ND would be a top 5 school.

Including LACs, there are fewer than 60 private schools that have larger endowment than Northeastern.
One thing to note is that for many other schools, hospital and medical facilities are counted toward their endowment which have nothing to do with education quality other than for the medical school students. For example VCU has big endowment thanks to that and it's medical school is good, but it's a mediocre school overall.

#361 is Northeastern's ranking for endowment per student, just ahead of Canisius College. Northeastern had a good run of playing and milking the USNWR rankings game. But now back to reality. It mostly lives a hand to mouth existence.

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Anonymous wrote:Drexel peers would be schools like RIT and NJIT, maybe WPI.

RIT and NJIT are peers.

WPI is definately a step above them.

I thought so, even WPI is very questionable.
Delexel people are very overconfident.

What is questionable about WPI? Curious to know

WPI is 82 and climbing, while Northeastern is 58 and dropping. Give it a couple years for them to cross in rankings.

It's going to happen faster than you think. WPI earnings are 100k, while Northeastern is 87k. And WPI more than triples Northeastern on endowment per student (easy to accomplish as Northeastern has a tiny endowment).

Wow. I just looked up Northeastern endowment and PP is right. It has 30,000 students, but with an endowment of only 1.5 billion. That means it generates enough to cover about 2500 per student annually. Truly nothing.

Agreed that endowment is an important factor but it's a part of the equation just like location is an important factor but it's one of them.
Otherwise ND would be a top 5 school.

Including LACs, there are fewer than 60 private schools that have larger endowment than Northeastern.
One thing to note is that for many other schools, hospital and medical facilities are counted toward their endowment which have nothing to do with education quality other than for the medical school students. For example VCU has big endowment thanks to that and it's medical school is good, but it's a mediocre school overall.

#361 is Northeastern's ranking for endowment per student, just ahead of Canisius College. Northeastern had a good run of playing and milking the USNWR rankings game. But now back to reality. It mostly lives a hand to mouth existence.

Numbers are numbers, but where and how it's spent effectively is more important.
Again, all those medical endowments have nothing to do with undergraduate education.

Where and how it's spent comes down to student service and satisfaction which is the ultimate goal.
It's directly reflected in the retention rate.

Northeastern is #3 after MIT and UChicago. This is truly amazing.
https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/rankings/national-universities/freshmen-least-most-likely-return
How do you game this? Threaten students to stay?

For Drexel, more than 1 out of 10 students choose to not come back. Why? and you just blindly wishfully think that it'll catch up somehow.

These are the important questions to ask.

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Anonymous wrote:Drexel peers would be schools like RIT and NJIT, maybe WPI.

RIT and NJIT are peers.

WPI is definately a step above them.

I thought so, even WPI is very questionable.
Delexel people are very overconfident.

What is questionable about WPI? Curious to know

WPI is 82 and climbing, while Northeastern is 58 and dropping. Give it a couple years for them to cross in rankings.

Ok--Gotcha!

WPI was my kid's Top Safety school. It's such a hidden gem, that it remained in the final 4 choices for my kid until the end (and my kid had 3 "better choices" with acceptances). My kid only removed it from serious consideration after deciding the 7 week quarter system might not be the best learning method for a really smart but really good procrastinator
They were probably right---and where they ended up was a better fit for them but it's an up and coming school that is awesome.

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Anonymous wrote:Drexel peers would be schools like RIT and NJIT, maybe WPI.

RIT and NJIT are peers.

WPI is definately a step above them.

I thought so, even WPI is very questionable.
Delexel people are very overconfident.

What is questionable about WPI? Curious to know

Drexel being a peer to WPI

Ok--yes, they are not peers. WPI is a tier above most definately, no comparison

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We have to stop letting the NE posted derail threads about other schools. Just ignore her.

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My DD goes to Drexel.
She is a recruited athlete so that make make our experience a bit different.
She loves it. Her dorm is right on the edge of the train tracks-there’s nothing between her dorm and the river and center city. Also that part of west philly “university city” is undergoing such a building boom and gentrification. Thanks to the influence of Penn.
The two campuses are knit together. There’s an old stream bed that they’ve turned into pedestrian walkways. That means that there is a pedestrian boulevard traveling through the campuses that sits off the street grid so it’s makes for a more natural feel. Locust walk and Lancaster walk is their names.
The wasabi referenced in a previous post sits right above a subway entrance so that’s what made it so vulnerable tO shoplifters. It has actually been turned into a pickup location(?) where you pay for everything before you have access IYKWIM.
Drexel is not the little southern sweet SLAC that I attended. It has a true university feel with a diverse student population. The school is Urban and the kids are urbanized and there to learn. Since DD is an athlete she has a built-in family of like minded peers.
One of the things that bothers me is that there isn’t a local bar and that they Uber everywhere all of the time.

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Anonymous wrote:We just toured Drexel and were very impressed. Didn't feel any less safe than any urban school and they have a lot of those blue light safety kiosks around the area and kids can call a security guard to walk them home or anywhere they need to go within the area at any time. You can also co-op anywhere in the world so if you want to try another city, you can. We looked at it thinking of a backup safety school and left thinking it could actually be a really good fit for our kid. Plus a quick train ride to DC or NYC which our kids loved.

When Drexel claims you can co-op anywhere in the world, isn’t that really another way of saying, “You go find a coop overseas.” I mean, it’s not like Lehigh or Wash U where the universities have formalised overseas internship programs and arrange the internships?

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Anonymous wrote:Does anyone know how helpful Drexel is in arranging the co-ops?

Go to reddit and you’ll find out from students. Lots of mixed opinions.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm pasting just one paragraph that I 100% agree with. Drexel isn't for everybody, but it has a lot to offer:

My suggestion is that, if your child wants a coop, likes STEM or design, and wants to be in a youth- focused, dynamic city that is only two hours away (and about three blocks from Amtrak), then Drexel is a great choice. At this point, if that was my child, I'd pick Drexel over Northeastern.

Just like my kid chose Northeastern over MIT

You already said that a few pages ago, so odd.

Deja Vu?

Or I post the same thing so frequently, I lost track whether I already said it in this thread. It’s the weird NE poster that tries to insert themselves in every thread.

Drexel is a good solid school.
Just stop bringing in Northeastern to Drexel and every other thread.

The question was what is Drexel like. The easiest answer is it's very much like Northeastern, but without the decades of rankings gaming. And in a city of Philly with better job prospects, and far lower COL.

Yes, Drexel is a good option if can't get into Northeastern just like Northeastern is a good option if can't get into MIT.

Oh Lord. Drexel and NU are peer schools. No school is more like Drexel than NU and vice versa. NU and MIT are in the same state and both offer four year degrees, but similarities end there.

Not dissing NU. It has a fairly uncommon approach to higher education, which it has had in common with Drexel for a century. MIT has almost no real peers.

Drexel has 80% acceptance rate with much lower quality of students.
It's definitely a level down from Northeastern. Let's get real.

Given that they end up with almost identical salary outcomes for their grads (with lower COL in Philly, Drexel grads arguably end up better off), I guess the question I'd have is why Northeastern can't deliver more for its students when it can be more selective in who gets in?

The way I see it is Northeastern has peaked. It's been gaming the rankings for years and that scam is over as the USNWR methodology changed and the school crashed. As it's all a bit of a Ponzi scheme, it will accelerate on its downward path, as no one will be clamoring to spend 5 years in an overpriced college that can't crack the top 50.
And of course, it's in a stagnant, soon to be rapidly declining region--and one where it's always been at the bottom of the pile of Boston area universities.

By contrast, Drexel has everything in its favor, especially being in a city that is a magnet for young workers and the young industries employing them.

Northeastern’s outcome is similar to or better than half of T20ish schools, however they don't claim it's T20 peer school.

Certain schools (T20ish) and certain degrees (e.g. CS) command higher salaries. Outside of that, all schools have similar salary outcomes. GMU or JMU's school of business average salaries are in the same ballpark as Pitt, Northeastern, Drexel, Ohio State, UNC, etc. Go check.

https://collegescorecard.ed.gov

Median earning JMU: $65K

Median earning Northeastern: $89K

Checked

Drexel 80K is effetively better than Northeastern at 89k, given lower cost of living.

For the Northeastern booster who keeps compairing Northeastern to MIT, MIT starting salary is 119. Kinda at a different level, right?

However northeastern is on par or better than many T20s such as Vanderbilt, UChicago, Northwestern, UCLA, UCB, Brown, JH, Rice etc.(that's almost half already) so is Northeastern T20 level?

btw, I thought one of the pros for Drexel was proximity to NYC.
I guess they don't really advance to NYC.

This is hysterical. Where the heck did you get the idea that Northeastern is “on par or better than” Vandy, Chicago, Northwestern, UCLA, UCB, Brown, Hopkins, and Rice?

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Anonymous wrote:Drexel peers would be schools like RIT and NJIT, maybe WPI.

RIT and NJIT are peers.

WPI is definately a step above them.

I thought so, even WPI is very questionable.
Delexel people are very overconfident.

What is questionable about WPI? Curious to know

WPI is 82 and climbing, while Northeastern is 58 and dropping. Give it a couple years for them to cross in rankings.

It's going to happen faster than you think. WPI earnings are 100k, while Northeastern is 87k. And WPI more than triples Northeastern on endowment per student (easy to accomplish as Northeastern has a tiny endowment).

Drexel will surpass WPI in no time.

Drexel, WPI, and Northeastern have a lot of similarities. My guess is Drexel and WPI and Northeastern will soon return to all having a similar ranking. But will happen by Northeastern dropping even further.

What do you think is the reason WPI is significantly less popular (50+% acceptance rate) compared to other Boston area schools like BU, BC, Tufts, and Northeastern that are very very popular.

Easy to figure out. WPI is in Worcester, a traditionally blue collar city some distance from Boston. It is closer to College of the Holy Cross and Clark University, if you know those schools. On the other hand, BC, BU, Tufts and Northeastern are either in Boston proper or just a T ride away.

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Anonymous wrote:We liked the co-op but it was too expensive for us.

Same and they didn’t offer much FA compared to the cost.