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Anonymous wrote:I'm pasting just one paragraph that I 100% agree with. Drexel isn't for everybody, but it has a lot to offer:

My suggestion is that, if your child wants a coop, likes STEM or design, and wants to be in a youth- focused, dynamic city that is only two hours away (and about three blocks from Amtrak), then Drexel is a great choice. At this point, if that was my child, I'd pick Drexel over Northeastern.

Just like my kid chose Northeastern over MIT

You already said that a few pages ago, so odd.

Deja Vu?

Or I post the same thing so frequently, I lost track whether I already said it in this thread. It’s the weird NE poster that tries to insert themselves in every thread.

Drexel is a good solid school.
Just stop bringing in Northeastern to Drexel and every other thread.

The question was what is Drexel like. The easiest answer is it's very much like Northeastern, but without the decades of rankings gaming. And in a city of Philly with better job prospects, and far lower COL.

Yes, Drexel is a good option if can't get into Northeastern just like Northeastern is a good option if can't get into MIT.

Oh Lord. Drexel and NU are peer schools. No school is more like Drexel than NU and vice versa. NU and MIT are in the same state and both offer four year degrees, but similarities end there.

Not dissing NU. It has a fairly uncommon approach to higher education, which it has had in common with Drexel for a century. MIT has almost no real peers.

Drexel has 80% acceptance rate with much lower quality of students.
It's definitely a level down from Northeastern. Let's get real.

Given that they end up with almost identical salary outcomes for their grads (with lower COL in Philly, Drexel grads arguably end up better off), I guess the question I'd have is why Northeastern can't deliver more for its students when it can be more selective in who gets in?

The way I see it is Northeastern has peaked. It's been gaming the rankings for years and that scam is over as the USNWR methodology changed and the school crashed. As it's all a bit of a Ponzi scheme, it will accelerate on its downward path, as no one will be clamoring to spend 5 years in an overpriced college that can't crack the top 50.
And of course, it's in a stagnant, soon to be rapidly declining region--and one where it's always been at the bottom of the pile of Boston area universities.

By contrast, Drexel has everything in its favor, especially being in a city that is a magnet for young workers and the young industries employing them.

Northeastern’s outcome is similar to or better than half of T20ish schools, however they don't claim it's T20 peer school.

Certain schools (T20ish) and certain degrees (e.g. CS) command higher salaries. Outside of that, all schools have similar salary outcomes. GMU or JMU's school of business average salaries are in the same ballpark as Pitt, Northeastern, Drexel, Ohio State, UNC, etc. Go check.

https://collegescorecard.ed.gov

Median earning JMU: $65K

Median earning Northeastern: $89K

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Drexel 80K is effetively better than Northeastern at 89k, given lower cost of living.

For the Northeastern booster who keeps compairing Northeastern to MIT, MIT starting salary is 119. Kinda at a different level, right?

Definately not the Northeastern Booster....but to effectively compare, you need to compare by major and then cost adjust for COL. MIT will always have a much higher starting salary since majority are CS/Eng or STEM and going onto graduate school (so not in the data). Not too many History or English or Marketing majors at MIT. Then add in many will stay in Boston or head to SV---both ridiculously expensive COL

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Anonymous wrote:Drexel peers would be schools like RIT and NJIT, maybe WPI.

RIT and NJIT are peers.

WPI is definately a step above them.

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Anonymous wrote:Drexel peers would be schools like RIT and NJIT, maybe WPI.

RIT and NJIT are peers.

WPI is definately a step above them.

I thought so, even WPI is very questionable.
Delexel people are very overconfident.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm pasting just one paragraph that I 100% agree with. Drexel isn't for everybody, but it has a lot to offer:

My suggestion is that, if your child wants a coop, likes STEM or design, and wants to be in a youth- focused, dynamic city that is only two hours away (and about three blocks from Amtrak), then Drexel is a great choice. At this point, if that was my child, I'd pick Drexel over Northeastern.

Just like my kid chose Northeastern over MIT

You already said that a few pages ago, so odd.

Deja Vu?

Or I post the same thing so frequently, I lost track whether I already said it in this thread. It’s the weird NE poster that tries to insert themselves in every thread.

Drexel is a good solid school.
Just stop bringing in Northeastern to Drexel and every other thread.

The question was what is Drexel like. The easiest answer is it's very much like Northeastern, but without the decades of rankings gaming. And in a city of Philly with better job prospects, and far lower COL.

Yes, Drexel is a good option if can't get into Northeastern just like Northeastern is a good option if can't get into MIT.

Oh Lord. Drexel and NU are peer schools. No school is more like Drexel than NU and vice versa. NU and MIT are in the same state and both offer four year degrees, but similarities end there.

Not dissing NU. It has a fairly uncommon approach to higher education, which it has had in common with Drexel for a century. MIT has almost no real peers.

Drexel has 80% acceptance rate with much lower quality of students.
It's definitely a level down from Northeastern. Let's get real.

Given that they end up with almost identical salary outcomes for their grads (with lower COL in Philly, Drexel grads arguably end up better off), I guess the question I'd have is why Northeastern can't deliver more for its students when it can be more selective in who gets in?

The way I see it is Northeastern has peaked. It's been gaming the rankings for years and that scam is over as the USNWR methodology changed and the school crashed. As it's all a bit of a Ponzi scheme, it will accelerate on its downward path, as no one will be clamoring to spend 5 years in an overpriced college that can't crack the top 50.
And of course, it's in a stagnant, soon to be rapidly declining region--and one where it's always been at the bottom of the pile of Boston area universities.

By contrast, Drexel has everything in its favor, especially being in a city that is a magnet for young workers and the young industries employing them.

Northeastern’s outcome is similar to or better than half of T20ish schools, however they don't claim it's T20 peer school.

Certain schools (T20ish) and certain degrees (e.g. CS) command higher salaries. Outside of that, all schools have similar salary outcomes. GMU or JMU's school of business average salaries are in the same ballpark as Pitt, Northeastern, Drexel, Ohio State, UNC, etc. Go check.

https://collegescorecard.ed.gov

Median earning JMU: $65K

Median earning Northeastern: $89K

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Ummm...many NEU grads end up in Boston, one of the most expensive areas in the country. Many techies also end up in CA, also an extremely expensive area.

Where do majority of JMU grads end up? Even if you say NoVa, that will still command lower salaries than the Boston or CA

Yes, most Northeastern grads end up in interesting and exciting cities like Boston, NYC, and ones in CA.
That's one of the pros of the school, and they get paid 40% more than JMU graduates.
However, the cost of living (COL) difference between the DMV and those cities is nowhere near 40%.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm pasting just one paragraph that I 100% agree with. Drexel isn't for everybody, but it has a lot to offer:

My suggestion is that, if your child wants a coop, likes STEM or design, and wants to be in a youth- focused, dynamic city that is only two hours away (and about three blocks from Amtrak), then Drexel is a great choice. At this point, if that was my child, I'd pick Drexel over Northeastern.

Just like my kid chose Northeastern over MIT

You already said that a few pages ago, so odd.

Deja Vu?

Or I post the same thing so frequently, I lost track whether I already said it in this thread. It’s the weird NE poster that tries to insert themselves in every thread.

Drexel is a good solid school.
Just stop bringing in Northeastern to Drexel and every other thread.

The question was what is Drexel like. The easiest answer is it's very much like Northeastern, but without the decades of rankings gaming. And in a city of Philly with better job prospects, and far lower COL.

Yes, Drexel is a good option if can't get into Northeastern just like Northeastern is a good option if can't get into MIT.

Oh Lord. Drexel and NU are peer schools. No school is more like Drexel than NU and vice versa. NU and MIT are in the same state and both offer four year degrees, but similarities end there.

Not dissing NU. It has a fairly uncommon approach to higher education, which it has had in common with Drexel for a century. MIT has almost no real peers.

Drexel has 80% acceptance rate with much lower quality of students.
It's definitely a level down from Northeastern. Let's get real.

Given that they end up with almost identical salary outcomes for their grads (with lower COL in Philly, Drexel grads arguably end up better off), I guess the question I'd have is why Northeastern can't deliver more for its students when it can be more selective in who gets in?

The way I see it is Northeastern has peaked. It's been gaming the rankings for years and that scam is over as the USNWR methodology changed and the school crashed. As it's all a bit of a Ponzi scheme, it will accelerate on its downward path, as no one will be clamoring to spend 5 years in an overpriced college that can't crack the top 50.
And of course, it's in a stagnant, soon to be rapidly declining region--and one where it's always been at the bottom of the pile of Boston area universities.

By contrast, Drexel has everything in its favor, especially being in a city that is a magnet for young workers and the young industries employing them.

Northeastern’s outcome is similar to or better than half of T20ish schools, however they don't claim it's T20 peer school.

Certain schools (T20ish) and certain degrees (e.g. CS) command higher salaries. Outside of that, all schools have similar salary outcomes. GMU or JMU's school of business average salaries are in the same ballpark as Pitt, Northeastern, Drexel, Ohio State, UNC, etc. Go check.

https://collegescorecard.ed.gov

Median earning JMU: $65K

Median earning Northeastern: $89K

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You didn't read what I wrote.. school of business. tut..tut.

Here are the averages..

JMU - $76K - https://www.jmu.edu/cob/prospective-students/polishing-performance.shtml
Northeastern - $68K - https://damore-mckim.northeastern.edu/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/DMSB_UndergraduateEmploymentReport_FNL_080520.pdf

NEU has a strong CS program that likely skews the overall average.

68k after paying for 5 years of having a kid in a coop business school? No thank you, Northeastern!

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Anonymous wrote:I'm pasting just one paragraph that I 100% agree with. Drexel isn't for everybody, but it has a lot to offer:

My suggestion is that, if your child wants a coop, likes STEM or design, and wants to be in a youth- focused, dynamic city that is only two hours away (and about three blocks from Amtrak), then Drexel is a great choice. At this point, if that was my child, I'd pick Drexel over Northeastern.

Just like my kid chose Northeastern over MIT

You already said that a few pages ago, so odd.

Deja Vu?

Or I post the same thing so frequently, I lost track whether I already said it in this thread. It’s the weird NE poster that tries to insert themselves in every thread.

Drexel is a good solid school.
Just stop bringing in Northeastern to Drexel and every other thread.

The question was what is Drexel like. The easiest answer is it's very much like Northeastern, but without the decades of rankings gaming. And in a city of Philly with better job prospects, and far lower COL.

Yes, Drexel is a good option if can't get into Northeastern just like Northeastern is a good option if can't get into MIT.

Oh Lord. Drexel and NU are peer schools. No school is more like Drexel than NU and vice versa. NU and MIT are in the same state and both offer four year degrees, but similarities end there.

Not dissing NU. It has a fairly uncommon approach to higher education, which it has had in common with Drexel for a century. MIT has almost no real peers.

Drexel has 80% acceptance rate with much lower quality of students.
It's definitely a level down from Northeastern. Let's get real.

Given that they end up with almost identical salary outcomes for their grads (with lower COL in Philly, Drexel grads arguably end up better off), I guess the question I'd have is why Northeastern can't deliver more for its students when it can be more selective in who gets in?

The way I see it is Northeastern has peaked. It's been gaming the rankings for years and that scam is over as the USNWR methodology changed and the school crashed. As it's all a bit of a Ponzi scheme, it will accelerate on its downward path, as no one will be clamoring to spend 5 years in an overpriced college that can't crack the top 50.
And of course, it's in a stagnant, soon to be rapidly declining region--and one where it's always been at the bottom of the pile of Boston area universities.

By contrast, Drexel has everything in its favor, especially being in a city that is a magnet for young workers and the young industries employing them.

Northeastern’s outcome is similar to or better than half of T20ish schools, however they don't claim it's T20 peer school.

Certain schools (T20ish) and certain degrees (e.g. CS) command higher salaries. Outside of that, all schools have similar salary outcomes. GMU or JMU's school of business average salaries are in the same ballpark as Pitt, Northeastern, Drexel, Ohio State, UNC, etc. Go check.

https://collegescorecard.ed.gov

Median earning JMU: $65K

Median earning Northeastern: $89K

Checked

You didn't read what I wrote.. school of business. tut..tut.

Here are the averages..

JMU - $76K - https://www.jmu.edu/cob/prospective-students/polishing-performance.shtml
Northeastern - $68K - https://damore-mckim.northeastern.edu/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/DMSB_UndergraduateEmploymentReport_FNL_080520.pdf

NEU has a strong CS program that likely skews the overall average.

LOL you're mixing and matching.
You used 2019 data with 'base salary' for Northeastern and 2023 data with 'total compensation' for JMU whatever that means.
If you want to compare, you should at least use the same source.

In fact, Northeastern is very strong in Business as well.
https://collegescorecard.ed.gov/school/?167358-Northeastern-University
$91,376 with almost 1,000 graduates.

JMU doesn't have overall and has broken down categories.
It says $94,451 for 164 finance graduates which is actually impressive, but on the average with all the biz graduates obviously is lower.

Poets and Quanta is another great source for business programs.
Northeastern is ranked #14 for outcome/salary for undergrad business program.
JMU is #80.

https://poetsandquantsforundergrads.com/rankings/best-undergraduate-business-schools-business-school-rankings/4/

Like you said for CS/Engineering Northeastern grads make more than 30% more and overall school wise 40% more.

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Anonymous wrote:He will most likely be safe but that area is not safe. Drexel and Upenn are in a terrible location (I’m from philly). They are great schools in the midst of a challenged neighborhood. But for the most part they are in their own little world and he will he fine.

This isn’t true any more, sounds like you haven’t been back in decades. Penn and Drexel have bought up most of the surrounding area and it is safe. I wouldn’t wander a mile or so away in certain directions but wouldn’t have any concern about the safety of my student on campus.

Ha ha, I am west Philly born and raised. My dad and sister went to Penn. My family has been in Philly for generations. I was just there this weekend and my sisters car was stolen from 42nd and Walnut Street! Much like DC the campus neighborhood has been gentrified but with a larger low income population than DC the benefits of gentrification have not trickled down. I’m African American and certainly not afraid of “urban environments”. Philadelphia including University City is worse than when I was growing up. I said the campus was in its own little bubble and they would be fine. But lets not pretend that crime in Ucity is magically gone because the campus has expanded. I’m black and my family and social groups have a different lived experience than PPs so I have a different perspective.

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Anonymous wrote:He will most likely be safe but that area is not safe. Drexel and Upenn are in a terrible location (I’m from philly). They are great schools in the midst of a challenged neighborhood. But for the most part they are in their own little world and he will he fine.

This isn’t true any more, sounds like you haven’t been back in decades. Penn and Drexel have bought up most of the surrounding area and it is safe. I wouldn’t wander a mile or so away in certain directions but wouldn’t have any concern about the safety of my student on campus.

Ha ha, I am west Philly born and raised. My dad and sister went to Penn. My family has been in Philly for generations. I was just there this weekend and my sisters car was stolen from 42nd and Walnut Street! Much like DC the campus neighborhood has been gentrified but with a larger low income population than DC the benefits of gentrification have not trickled down. I’m African American and certainly not afraid of “urban environments”. Philadelphia including University City is worse than when I was growing up. I said the campus was in its own little bubble and they would be fine. But lets not pretend that crime in Ucity is magically gone because the campus has expanded. I’m black and my family and social groups have a different lived experience than PPs so I have a different perspective.

Cool story.

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Anonymous wrote:Drexel peers would be schools like RIT and NJIT, maybe WPI.

RIT and NJIT are peers.

WPI is definately a step above them.

I thought so, even WPI is very questionable.
Delexel people are very overconfident.

What is questionable about WPI? Curious to know

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Anonymous wrote:Drexel peers would be schools like RIT and NJIT, maybe WPI.

RIT and NJIT are peers.

WPI is definately a step above them.

I thought so, even WPI is very questionable.
Delexel people are very overconfident.

What is questionable about WPI? Curious to know

WPI is 82 and climbing, while Northeastern is 58 and dropping. Give it a couple years for them to cross in rankings.

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Anonymous wrote:Drexel peers would be schools like RIT and NJIT, maybe WPI.

RIT and NJIT are peers.

WPI is definately a step above them.

I thought so, even WPI is very questionable.
Delexel people are very overconfident.

What is questionable about WPI? Curious to know

WPI is 82 and climbing, while Northeastern is 58 and dropping. Give it a couple years for them to cross in rankings.

It's going to happen faster than you think. WPI earnings are 100k, while Northeastern is 87k. And WPI more than triples Northeastern on endowment per student (easy to accomplish as Northeastern has a tiny endowment).

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Anonymous wrote:Drexel peers would be schools like RIT and NJIT, maybe WPI.

RIT and NJIT are peers.

WPI is definately a step above them.

I thought so, even WPI is very questionable.
Delexel people are very overconfident.

What is questionable about WPI? Curious to know

Drexel being a peer to WPI

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Anonymous wrote:Drexel peers would be schools like RIT and NJIT, maybe WPI.

RIT and NJIT are peers.

WPI is definately a step above them.

I thought so, even WPI is very questionable.
Delexel people are very overconfident.

What is questionable about WPI? Curious to know

WPI is 82 and climbing, while Northeastern is 58 and dropping. Give it a couple years for them to cross in rankings.

It's going to happen faster than you think. WPI earnings are 100k, while Northeastern is 87k. And WPI more than triples Northeastern on endowment per student (easy to accomplish as Northeastern has a tiny endowment).

Drexel will surpass WPI in no time.

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Anonymous wrote:Drexel peers would be schools like RIT and NJIT, maybe WPI.

RIT and NJIT are peers.

WPI is definately a step above them.

I thought so, even WPI is very questionable.
Delexel people are very overconfident.

What is questionable about WPI? Curious to know

WPI is 82 and climbing, while Northeastern is 58 and dropping. Give it a couple years for them to cross in rankings.

It's going to happen faster than you think. WPI earnings are 100k, while Northeastern is 87k. And WPI more than triples Northeastern on endowment per student (easy to accomplish as Northeastern has a tiny endowment).

Drexel will surpass WPI in no time.

Drexel, WPI, and Northeastern have a lot of similarities. My guess is Drexel and WPI and Northeastern will soon return to all having a similar ranking. But will happen by Northeastern dropping even further.

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Anonymous wrote:Drexel peers would be schools like RIT and NJIT, maybe WPI.

RIT and NJIT are peers.

WPI is definately a step above them.

I thought so, even WPI is very questionable.
Delexel people are very overconfident.

What is questionable about WPI? Curious to know

WPI is 82 and climbing, while Northeastern is 58 and dropping. Give it a couple years for them to cross in rankings.

It's going to happen faster than you think. WPI earnings are 100k, while Northeastern is 87k. And WPI more than triples Northeastern on endowment per student (easy to accomplish as Northeastern has a tiny endowment).

Drexel will surpass WPI in no time.

Drexel, WPI, and Northeastern have a lot of similarities. My guess is Drexel and WPI and Northeastern will soon return to all having a similar ranking. But will happen by Northeastern dropping even further.

What do you think is the reason WPI is significantly less popular (50+% acceptance rate) compared to other Boston area schools like BU, BC, Tufts, and Northeastern that are very very popular.